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Cancel This Deal, Diplomatically (Bill Bennet-Important Read)
National Review ^ | 3-1-06 | William J. Bennett & Seth Leibsohn

Posted on 03/01/2006 1:20:56 PM PST by STARWISE

The Dubai Ports World deal can’t work.

Dubai Ports World, the subsidiary of the United Arab Emirates, has now asked for a 45-day review from the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) to investigate security concerns over the control of six U.S. ports. This is to the good, calming calls for congressional action as well as subsequent threats of a presidential veto. Many lobbyists have been hired, charges alleged, fact-sheets disseminated, and polls put in the field. Still, questions remain to be asked, questions that none of the above D.C. responses have addressed.

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But better than asking questions, a back-channel message should be sent to the UAE to withdraw this deal, much as China withdrew its UNOCAL bid last year. This deal will not stand public deliberation; it confuses things.

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Never has the president been further from the base on these issues than now. But, by having the UAE withdraw its offer, the issue will be taken off the table — it can be corrected and ended; otherwise it will live and bleed for at least another 45 days.

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No matter how many assurances we are given that our government will remain in charge of this security, the cargo will be managed and coordinated by a foreign-owned company whose country has anything but a strong record in preventing terrorism. In short, when all the smoke is cleared, the UAE is not a country of tried and true reliability like, say, Great Britain. There is a difference between Great Britain and the UAE, many differences in fact, and we should not be instructed otherwise.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bds; billbennet; bushbotscirclewagons; dubai; dubaiportsworld; iran; israel; newworldorder; nwo; ports; security; uae; wot
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"Here is what rankles Americans, and what should rankle the administration: We are being asked to not only trust our ports to be partially run by the UAE, but we are additionally being asked to support a multibillion-dollar arrangement that supports an authoritarian regime. The message of the Bush doctrine has been blurred. We have been led in this war by the great call to and for freedom in other countries — "the urgent requirement of our nation's security, and the calling of our time," as the president put it in his powerful Second Inaugural. This calling applies to nowhere else as direct as it does to the Middle East."
1 posted on 03/01/2006 1:20:59 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE
The Dubai Ports World deal can’t work.

Wanna bet, Bill?

2 posted on 03/01/2006 1:22:16 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (No respect for conservatives? That's free speech. No respect for liberals? That's hate speech.)
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To: STARWISE

This isn't about control of ports, just terminals.


3 posted on 03/01/2006 1:22:25 PM PST by steelcurtain
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To: ohioWfan; Miss Marple; MJY1288; kcvl; Mo1; Peach; Txsleuth; Howlin; silent_jonny; mystery-ak; ...

Confused again BTTT .. he's hardly a flamethrower.


4 posted on 03/01/2006 1:23:07 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: STARWISE; All

And Bill's hardly a heavy weight on the national scene. Him and Sean Hannity...sigh.


5 posted on 03/01/2006 1:24:46 PM PST by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: STARWISE

there is no way this deal is killed


6 posted on 03/01/2006 1:25:03 PM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: steelcurtain

You're right. Bill Bennet is typically so level headed .. I am taken aback by this.


7 posted on 03/01/2006 1:25:29 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author:)
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To: STARWISE
By William J. Bennett & Seth Leibsohn

Copy-and-paste is our friend.

8 posted on 03/01/2006 1:25:41 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: STARWISE
Go back to what you know, Bill.


9 posted on 03/01/2006 1:26:35 PM PST by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Darkwolf377
Wanna bet, Bill?


10 posted on 03/01/2006 1:28:07 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: STARWISE

It's one thing to debate the issue - and I admit there are good points to be made on both sides - but it's quite another to misstate the facts. That what those who call this "selling the ports" or "control of the ports" are doing, just like those who call the intelligence-gathering of foreign phone calls made by terrorists to U.S. accomplices "domestic spying."


11 posted on 03/01/2006 1:29:21 PM PST by steelcurtain
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To: STARWISE
There is a difference between Great Britain and the UAE, many differences in fact, and we should not be instructed otherwise.

We heard moralizing to the contrary, on this very board, yesterday. We were told essentially that anyone who makes such a distinction must be a racist, Bush-bashing, non-conservative. That conlcusion is brought to us by the same mentality that said opposition to the Harriet Miers nomination must be sexist.

12 posted on 03/01/2006 1:30:23 PM PST by mikeus_maximus
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To: newgeezer
By William J. Bennett & Seth Leibsohn

Copy-and-paste is our friend.

Whoa, good thing you corrected that or I wouldn't have had a clue who wrote this. /sarc off

13 posted on 03/01/2006 1:32:24 PM PST by tsmith130
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To: STARWISE
No matter how many assurances we are given that our government will remain in charge of this security, the cargo will be managed and coordinated by a foreign-owned company whose country has anything but a strong record in preventing terrorism.

Kinda like the UK, that owns these businesses now?

Actually, I think having the UAE run it will concentrate our efforts to keep things secure, which they aren't now. At the same time, it gives motivation to the UAE to help us shut down terrorism worldwide, lest they lose their business.

In the end, I don't think it matters who writes the paychecks of the longshoremans union. If terrorists want to sneak in stuff, they will, probably over the Canadian border that we aren't watching at all.

14 posted on 03/01/2006 1:34:19 PM PST by narby (Evolution is the new "third rail" in American politics)
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To: TexasCajun

Nice to see someone got it. :)


15 posted on 03/01/2006 1:34:22 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (No respect for conservatives? That's free speech. No respect for liberals? That's hate speech.)
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To: tsmith130

Yes, and misspelled Keywords are worthless.


16 posted on 03/01/2006 1:37:18 PM PST by newgeezer (Sarcasm content: 0.000%)
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To: Darkwolf377

I think Bill is reduced to the quarter machines these days.


17 posted on 03/01/2006 1:37:56 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: STARWISE

But we ask the UAE to trust us with an Aircraft Carrier in their ports?


18 posted on 03/01/2006 1:41:09 PM PST by rightinthemiddle ("Hindsight is not wisdom, and second guessing is not a strategy.")
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To: STARWISE
One question I have for ALL the naysayers like Bennett, Ingraham, Sean etc etc..........WHO will operate the TERMINALS if NOT DPW?

GB's business in NOW OWNED by DPW and the ONLY other nations capable of doing this kind of work is Singapore, and China?

19 posted on 03/01/2006 1:44:10 PM PST by PISANO (We will not tire......We will not falter.......We will NOT FAIL!!! .........GW Bush [Oct 2001])
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To: raybbr; DTogo; AZ_Cowboy; Itzlzha; Stellar Dendrite; NRA2BFree; Spiff; Pelham; Das Outsider; ...

ping


20 posted on 03/01/2006 1:44:33 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funds HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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To: STARWISE

Bennett is a wind bag and a self promoter. I hope this deal goes down the toilet, it should, but why do we need any foreign country's companies to handle these ports? Are there no American companys who can handle this? Are we all that inept?

Further there are 21 ports involved in this from Portland Maine to Corpus Christy, also a number of ports in Vancouver BC. Haven't heard Bennet mention that. This story was well on line before he or Brit, for that matter, latched onto it. Were they waiting for a signal?

Bush sure doesn't take security that seriously. Open borders and Arab Port "Authorities".


21 posted on 03/01/2006 1:45:28 PM PST by Bret
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To: finnman69
"there is no way this deal is killed"

Not so sure. even Bush is now using the "if" word regarding approval. Last night with Vargas on ABC World News Tonight.

22 posted on 03/01/2006 1:46:05 PM PST by isrul
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Is somebody maintaining an official list of long-standing conservatives who have fallen out of favor with the Bushbots? We can add Bill Bennett to that list now.


23 posted on 03/01/2006 1:46:57 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: narby

"Actually, I think having the UAE run it will concentrate our efforts to keep things secure"

I'm not specifically picking on you, but this argument ... I've seen it many times before in the past week or two, and the logic is so convoluted as to boggle the mind. I guess nothing focuses attention upon ports like having a Muslim nation heavily involved in them, huh?

And why would that be?


24 posted on 03/01/2006 1:47:21 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: STARWISE

The USA should not gamble away its security.


25 posted on 03/01/2006 1:48:52 PM PST by iPod Shuffle
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To: STARWISE

My question relates to the terminals. If the deal falls through will these terminals shut down? If not who will run them? If so, what will happen to all the workers?


26 posted on 03/01/2006 1:52:04 PM PST by sinbad17
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To: narby

Talking about keeping things secure, I wonder why there hasn't been a similar backlash against the Chinese controlling ports on the west coast?


27 posted on 03/01/2006 1:53:59 PM PST by american spirit
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To: narby
Kinda like the UK, that owns these businesses now?

Does the British government own the company that has been managing the port operations? I have not seen that claim. I have seen many, including the President, seek to compare these two companies, and countries, but one cannot compare a government owned company with a privately held one.

28 posted on 03/01/2006 1:55:17 PM PST by politeia
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To: STARWISE


The Debate On The Ports Deal(Risk Factor: British Company Management About The Same As The UAE)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1587394/posts
STRATFOR (Subscription) ^ | 02/28/06 17:35:30 | George Friedman
http://www.stratfor.com/



"Some argue it's easier for al Qaeda to enter the US. We find that doubtful. Al Qaeda operatives -the real ones not the wannabes-if out there, could enter by any number of means. If they try to slip a bomb into a container ship, it won't be one sent from a Muslim country -there the scrutiny level is too high. It would be under a flag no one would suspect, like Denmark. Given what it means to "operate a port," the risk to the US from having a British company manage its ports is about the same as from the UAE: Has anyone noticed holding a British passport these days is no guarantee of loyalty to Western ideals?"


29 posted on 03/01/2006 1:55:28 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: narby
At the same time, it gives motivation to the UAE to help us shut down terrorism worldwide, lest they lose their business.

The UAE continues to support terrorism in Israel...Why would you think they want to shut down terrorism...

Money obviously isn't an issue...They have more money than they can count...

30 posted on 03/01/2006 1:57:10 PM PST by Iscool (Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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To: STARWISE

And Bill Bennett is right. This port deal should be scrapped. It's a matter of national security.

It's a no-brainer.


31 posted on 03/01/2006 1:57:18 PM PST by Bookmark
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To: american spirit

"I wonder why there hasn't been a similar backlash against the Chinese controlling ports on the west coast?"

There was a huge uproar over the COSCO deal, which was squelched. But, in the meantime, leases were quietly signed. Nobody noticed. They're noticing now.


32 posted on 03/01/2006 1:57:26 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

That's good......wasn't COSCO involved with smuggling in AK-47's or something like that to some of the CAL street gangs a few years ago?


33 posted on 03/01/2006 2:01:15 PM PST by american spirit
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To: Iscool

"Money obviously isn't an issue...They have more money than they can count..."

Loss of profit does tend to be cited as a motivation not to attack, not just in this instance, but also regarding China.

But, I've often wondered at the expense we've incurred in the WOT thus far; compare that to lost profit on the ports deal and which is the smaller dollar amount? Wars cost money, and can be waged in any number of ways. Profit foregone or lost investments can be considered a cost of war, and one that pales in comparison to the cost of large scale conventional warfare.


34 posted on 03/01/2006 2:02:10 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: american spirit

Something like that. I'm thinking they were not actually AK-47's though.


35 posted on 03/01/2006 2:04:19 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: STARWISE
Bill Bennett drinks the Kool Aid.

Hey Bill, you know Sheik Makhtoum is a great Craps player. Maybe you can join him for a game!

36 posted on 03/01/2006 2:05:34 PM PST by Clemenza (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked...)
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To: Darkwolf377

I prefer to take advice from Victor Davis Hanson. Sorry, Bill.


37 posted on 03/01/2006 2:12:29 PM PST by OldFriend (HELL IS TOO GOOD FOR OUR MAINSTREAM MEDIA)
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To: STARWISE
Sorry Dr B, stick to virtue you obviously know nothing about Logistics or Security. Sorry you have an irrational fear of a company in UAE buying the company that managed 9 out of 300 Port Terminals in 6 of our Ports. It's called Capitalism, learn to live with it. Sorry you are so unwilling to actually learn the facts of how our Ports, Shipping Security or Logistics work.

What rankles is the rabid ignorance and shrill arrogance of the Port Deal Critics. They simply REFUSE to listen to the facts. Even THIS piece is full of factual inaccuracies and out right misstatements. It show a complete and utter refusal to actually LEARN the facts.

This has been going on for two weeks now, there is no excuse for this level of factual ignorance of the part of people of Dr Bennet's intellectual caliber.

38 posted on 03/01/2006 2:36:31 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: STARWISE

NO...he isn't a flamethrower, but he doesn't even want the 45 day investigation.

Now, having said that...several freepers have rightly pointed out that whatever investigation there is, will be mostly a rhetoric and campaign scrum..instead of an intellectual exchange...

I am having a REALLY hard time with some of the Conservatives' attitudes about this...NOT because I back the deal..I am still undecided, but even the Conservatives aren't willing to cut out the rhetoric and name-calling until after the 45 days is up!!!


39 posted on 03/01/2006 2:38:14 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Iscool
The UAE continues to support terrorism in Israel

The EU gives money to Hamas. They continue to support Terorism in Israel. When do we boot all the Euro trash out of economcy? BTW, your statement about the UAE is a lie.

40 posted on 03/01/2006 2:38:49 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

"...it can be corrected and ended; otherwise it will live and bleed for at least another 45 days."

This is the unescapable truth. The damage this is causing to the party is real and long lasting.


41 posted on 03/01/2006 2:42:11 PM PST by moehoward
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To: OldFriend

OOOOhhh....did I miss a VDH column about this???

I heard Rush read the one about Iraq the other day...but, I didn't know if he gave an opinion about this subject yet.


42 posted on 03/01/2006 2:43:36 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: MNJohnnie; Iscool

exactly what is a lie, johnnie? the fact that they support terrorism in israel??

no matter how many times i have presented the facts regarding UAE funding HAMAS-- who has killed jews AND AMERICANS ABROAD, you still continue on with your mantra. facts are facts, and i have plenty on my freeper homepage.


as i said before- people like yourself like to point out that saddam funded suicide bombers in israel as evidence that he was a threat. but when the UAE does it, you dismiss it and call it a lie.


43 posted on 03/01/2006 2:45:17 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funds HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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To: All
Curious how all the Knee Jerk Critics and chest beaters over look the fact that the people doing the bulk of the fighting and dieing on OUR side in the WOT are Muslim Arabs. But that RIGHT, do not trouble the Ra bids with facts, they would rather go into mental freak out mode then ever THINK.

Sorry but the Port Deal Supporters are right. A lot of the Critics are nothing more then Bigots with an irrational fear of Muslims. Like Most White Trash they cannot conceive that the world is much more complex then their "Us Good Guy-Them Bad Guys" comic book reality. The Port Deal Argument really has demonstrated just what a bunch of ignorant Chicken Little bone heads far to many Americans have become. The sheer unwillingness to learn even FACT ONE after two weeks on this topic really is a sorry statement of what the Conservative Movement has no degenerated into. Take Joy Republicans. We are back to our roots, the Know Nothings ride again.

44 posted on 03/01/2006 2:46:30 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: All
Curious how all the Knee Jerk Critics and chest beaters over look the fact that the people doing the bulk of the fighting and dieing on OUR side in the WOT are Muslim Arabs. But that RIGHT, do not trouble the Ra bids with facts, they would rather go into mental freak out mode then ever THINK.

Sorry but the Port Deal Supporters are right. A lot of the Critics are nothing more then Bigots with an irrational fear of Muslims. Like Most White Trash they cannot conceive that the world is much more complex then their "Us Good Guy-Them Bad Guys" comic book reality. The Port Deal Argument really has demonstrated just what a bunch of ignorant Chicken Little bone heads far to many Americans have become. The sheer unwillingness to learn even FACT ONE after two weeks on this topic really is a sorry statement of what the Conservative Movement has no degenerated into. Take Joy Republicans. We are back to our roots, the Know Nothings ride again.

45 posted on 03/01/2006 2:46:31 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: MNJohnnie

"A lot of the Critics are nothing more then Bigots with an irrational fear of Muslims. Like Most White Trash they cannot conceive that the world is much more complex then their "Us Good Guy-Them Bad Guys" comic book reality."

Ripped straight out of the DUmp. And where's the psychobabble? You need more psychobabble.


46 posted on 03/01/2006 2:50:10 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Stellar Dendrite
Ah SD, see you are still pushing your "It is said" "It is Believed" make believe news stories. Hey SD, how much did the Long Shoreman's Union pay the source of those Stories? Seeing as the claims of "the Arabs are taking over our Port" and "The Bush had Administration is turning Port Security over to Arabs" have been proven to be lies, what OTHER parts of the stories you post "to prove" your argument are lies?
47 posted on 03/01/2006 2:53:01 PM PST by MNJohnnie ("Good men don't wait for the polls. They stand on principle and fight."-Soul Seeker)
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To: MNJohnnie

Good post.


48 posted on 03/01/2006 2:53:45 PM PST by L98Fiero
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To: MNJohnnie
"A lot of the Critics are nothing more then Bigots with an irrational fear of Muslims"

i recall you making plenty of anti-muslim comments, johnnie. like " statistically, they probably will. their birthrates are twice ours Which is why God gave the Cluster Bombs only to the Christians" and "You DO realize the Muslim world produces NOTHING but Oil?, ".

among other highlights....
49 posted on 03/01/2006 2:55:36 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite (UAE-- Funds HAMAS and CAIR, check my homepage [UPDATED FREQUENTLY])
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To: MNJohnnie

"how much did the Long Shoreman's Union pay the source of those Stories?"

You speak as if this ill-considered UAE ports deal would lead to the replacement of American workers employed by the various port authorities. And why would that be, when we've been repeatedly assured that DP World would have no such authority themselves?


50 posted on 03/01/2006 2:59:08 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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