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Senate Approves Patriot Act Renewal
AP ^ | 3/2/6 | LAURIE KELLMAN

Posted on 03/02/2006 12:41:10 PM PST by SmithL

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To: scratcher

They're in denial that it actually happened.


21 posted on 03/02/2006 1:20:02 PM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: massgopguy
"They're in denial that it actually happened"

Like the last elections?

22 posted on 03/02/2006 1:22:14 PM PST by scratcher
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To: Southack
So how's that alcohol prohibition thing workin' out for ya? Still can't buy booze? And tell me, are you afraid of being drafted?

Government didn't "take" power during Prohibition is was done through the only legitimate means of increasing Government powers-- the resolution of a Constitutional Amendment; nevertheless the power to reinstate or even expand this power could be achieved today without such an amendment. There is nothing whatsoever preventing re-institution of the draft, except that senior DOD leadership knows that drafted soldiers aren't nearly as effective as an all-volunteer Army and scream and howl any time the subject is proposed...

23 posted on 03/02/2006 1:24:58 PM PST by LambSlave (The truth will set you free)
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To: stuartcr

"I agree. I'm glad I won't be around in 40 or so yrs from now. I'd hate to see what our country will be like"

Slowly but surely we will lose our rights to privacy..Oh well there is nothing anybody will do about it. Some cities you may not be able to blow your noise on the sidewalk without having an audience


24 posted on 03/02/2006 1:34:32 PM PST by Independentamerican2
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To: stuartcr

"I agree. I'm glad I won't be around in 40 or so yrs from now. I'd hate to see what our country will be like"

Slowly but surely we will lose our rights to privacy..Oh well there is nothing anybody will do about it. Some cities you may not be able to blow your noise on the sidewalk without having an audience


25 posted on 03/02/2006 1:34:34 PM PST by Independentamerican2
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To: trebb

Okay .. I just wanted to make sure the dems didn't take away our ability to protect ourselves.


26 posted on 03/02/2006 2:07:27 PM PST by CyberAnt (Democrats/Old Media: "controversy, crap and confusion" -- Amen!)
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To: Independentamerican2

Slowly but surely we will lose our rights to privacy

Exactly where is this "right" mentioned in the Constitution?


27 posted on 03/02/2006 2:10:14 PM PST by mortal19440
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To: mortal19440
Slowly but surely we will lose our rights to privacy

Exactly where is this "right" mentioned in the Constitution?

Isn't the right to privacy what they've been using for the last thirty years to kill unborn babies? So, it's gotta be in there, right? Right? /sarc

28 posted on 03/02/2006 2:18:49 PM PST by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: mortal19440
Exactly where is this "right" mentioned in the Constitution?

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

29 posted on 03/02/2006 2:20:04 PM PST by LambSlave (The truth will set you free)
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To: Independentamerican2

patriotatgate oh noooooooooooooooooooooooo


30 posted on 03/02/2006 2:27:34 PM PST by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
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To: italianquaker

sorry patriot act gate oh nooooooooooooooooooo


31 posted on 03/02/2006 2:29:01 PM PST by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
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To: Southack

Teddie was so upset he went out and got drunk, oh wait how could I tell since he is always drunk.


32 posted on 03/02/2006 2:29:57 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: LambSlave
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

Privacy is not a "power."

33 posted on 03/02/2006 2:43:09 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: LambSlave
"Government didn't "take" power during Prohibition..."

Of course it did. There are only 2 options, taking power or turning it down.

Well, government did not turn down the power of Prohibition. It took it.

34 posted on 03/02/2006 2:45:44 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
The people in a fit of idiocy granted the federal government the power to prohibit 'adult beverages' through the 21st Amendment. Thus showing even the Founding Fathers underestimated the power of human stupidity ! Actually there is no constitutional way of turning that 'gift of power' down If the people constitutionally decide to enforce idiocy. It must be enforced !.

'Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain !'
35 posted on 03/02/2006 2:57:40 PM PST by Reily
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To: Reily
"Actually there is no constitutional way of turning that 'gift of power' down If the people constitutionally decide to enforce idiocy. It must be enforced !."

Laws go unenforced every day. Prohibition, in contrast, was embraced by government.

36 posted on 03/02/2006 3:01:33 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Because it was demanded by the people!
It was a fit of democratic demagoguery run wild ! It initially was very popular! There was massive moral blovating about how necessary and right it was !

Government is not a conscious entity it is simply an agent.
As you say laws go unenforced all the time. Thats because it would be unpopular hence not worth the trouble to enforce. They don't get repealed for a whole variety of reasons from bureaucratic inertia or maybe some sense of misplaced moral guilt (Usually stirred up by a politician or in todays world the Kulture smog, media, the Hollyweird crowd, etc!)
37 posted on 03/02/2006 3:15:08 PM PST by Reily
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To: Southack
So how's that alcohol prohibition thing workin' out for ya?

Funny, seems to me that we still have a Prohibition going on. And we didn't even need a Constitutional Amendment to do it the second time.

Do you think the government will ever give back it's newfound emminent domain power?
38 posted on 03/02/2006 4:24:46 PM PST by Quick1 (Censorship: the worst obscenity.)
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To: Southack

I would argue that privacy is quite powerful.


39 posted on 03/02/2006 4:26:32 PM PST by Quick1 (Censorship: the worst obscenity.)
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To: Quick1
"I would argue that privacy is quite powerful."

People argue nonsense everyday.

That doesn't change the fact that "privacy" is not a power, however.

40 posted on 03/02/2006 4:34:20 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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