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Study links autism, vaccine
metrowestdailynews.com ^ | March 2, 2006 | Jon Brodkin

Posted on 03/03/2006 1:54:55 AM PST by neverdem

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To: cyborg


Cyborg


The vaccine industry is NOT a money maker for pharm companies. It is supported by their profits from other departments. The folks who work in research in these areas make the least of their peers.

It is barely surviving in the US. The answer to AIDS lies in biologics, as does the answer to cancer.

If your looking for the big scam, look to government.


41 posted on 03/03/2006 7:48:53 AM PST by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: hurly

"Denmark has not had thimersol in their vaccines for over 13 years and their "autism" rates have not dropped at all! Pretty persuasive evidence that thimersol causes no problems."

Year 2003 stats:
Denmark has a rate of autism of 11 per million population vaccinated.

The US has a rate of autism of over 2000 per million population vaccinated.

Ever thought that maybe the reason the rate is so low in Denmark is simply because they haven't been using thimerosol?

Autism is way more prevalent in the US than in other 1st-world nations, and it is many times more prevalent than it used to be in the US. There is a reason for this, whether it's thimerosol or something else.


42 posted on 03/03/2006 7:55:28 AM PST by webstersII
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To: HonestConservative

"The answer to AIDS lies in biologics"

What is "biologics"?


43 posted on 03/03/2006 7:59:49 AM PST by webstersII
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To: webstersII
If you read the other posts it seems fairly obvious that most of the increase is in the loosening of the diagnostic criteria! Also the current rate of autism in Denmark is irrelevant! The key is it did not decrease after thimersol was no longer in the vaccines!
44 posted on 03/03/2006 8:04:48 AM PST by hurly (A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds!)
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To: cyborg

>"Vaccine industry is a straight up hustle."<

-Right you are. Especially the flu vaccine, and the maunfacturers are protected from being sued for any damages, as I understand it.

The latest hype is a bird flu vaccine, which would likely be ineffective at best.


45 posted on 03/03/2006 8:05:57 AM PST by FBD (surf's up....way up!)
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To: webstersII

Sorry, for the criptic language.

In the pharm R & D areas, there is chemistry and there is biologics.

Biologics is a very different kettle of fish, excuse the pun.

Biologics involves using living of formerly living products to develop a result. It is not like making a cake; if you use x amount of baking soda or salt in a recipe in the same amount each time you get a measured result. Using living or formerly living products in development injects the idiocyncracies of each individual "creature" itself into the process of development and manufacture.

This is why you hear about Pharm companies having to toss entire batches of vaccine. It is painfully hard to develop and just as difficult to manufacture.


By the way, researchers have kids, too and believe me, those kids are vaccinated.

Soon things will be made easier by the use of gene replication techniques in development and manufacture.

Antibiotics were developed out of the field of biologics.

Folks forget that more men died in WWI from the flu than did from war injuries. Over a million (a very high percentage of our population at the time) died of it around 1918 or so.

There was no flu vaccine.


46 posted on 03/03/2006 8:19:04 AM PST by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: cyborg; neverdem; dinasour; agere_contra; panthermom; sono; PGalt; old and tired; PCRit; ...
You can get a religious exemption from most vaccines. Why? Because many vaccines contain aborted fetal cells (human diploid cells.) That's a fact. How many folks know that?

Here's a list of ingredients:


In addition to the viral and bacterial RNA or DNA that is part of the vaccines, here are the fillers:
Vaccine Fillers and Ingredients

aluminum hydroxide
aluminum phosphate
ammonium sulfate
amphotericin B
animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
dog kidney, monkey kidney,
chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
calf (bovine) serum
betapropiolactone
fetal bovine serum
formaldehyde
formalin
gelatin
glycerol
human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
hydrolized gelatin
monosodium glutamate (MSG)
neomycin
neomycin sulfate
phenol red indicator
phenoxyethanol (antifreeze)
potassium diphosphate
potassium monophosphate
polymyxin B
polysorbate 20
polysorbate 80
porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
residual MRC5 proteins
sorbitol
sucrose
thimerosal (mercury)
tri(n)butylphosphate,
VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells
washed sheep red blood cells

47 posted on 03/03/2006 8:23:56 AM PST by FBD (surf's up....way up!)
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To: FBD

Why do we need all this?


48 posted on 03/03/2006 8:37:48 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: hurly

"it seems fairly obvious that most of the increase is in the loosening of the diagnostic criteria"

Prove it.

"The key is it did not decrease after thimersol was no longer in the vaccines!"

Prove it.


-- In God we trust. All others bring data.


49 posted on 03/03/2006 8:39:41 AM PST by webstersII
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; cyborg; neverdem


I think many vaccines are far riskier then most believe.

Here's a good vaccine info site:
http://www.909shot.com/
The National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC)
http://www.909shot.com/


50 posted on 03/03/2006 8:51:47 AM PST by FBD (surf's up....way up!)
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To: FBD
I have an autistic grandson. I want legitimate answers. I also have a couple other grandsons that my daughters think have some autistic traits. For instance one, now grown and with a college degree and working, banged his head on his crib and wall when a little guy.

I don't know the truth.

51 posted on 03/03/2006 9:02:53 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: neverdem

Bookmark for later.


52 posted on 03/03/2006 9:07:51 AM PST by TX Bluebonnet
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; cyborg; neverdem; All

-from what I've read, mercury is a pwerful neurotoxin, and the suspected reason behind most autism.

Of course, there are other sources of mercury poisoning besides vaccines.

check out this article:
The Age of Autism: Mercury and the Amish

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20050518-065621-1970r.htm


53 posted on 03/03/2006 9:10:56 AM PST by FBD (surf's up....way up!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I bang my head now ... everytime I hear Helen Thomas.


54 posted on 03/03/2006 9:11:20 AM PST by sono (Bill Clinton is looking for 25 interns to work at his library. Now what could go wrong here?)
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To: cyborg
Overdosed vaccines, pesticides AND a diet of coke and junk food during pregnancy deprived him of a healthy start.

Did all three of these cause the autism, or just the vaccines?

55 posted on 03/03/2006 9:49:19 AM PST by Born Conservative (Acts of intolerance will not be tolerated at The Pennsylvania State University.)
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To: Born Conservative

Could be any one of them. That's a pretty bad combo. The usage of heavy pesticides and junk food diet didn't help the immune system that's for sure.


56 posted on 03/03/2006 9:55:16 AM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: FBD

I have mercury fillings. When I come into some nice cash, I'm going to have them all removed. Hopefully, this would happen before I start having children. Until then, it's juicing therapy, cilantro and cucumber juices for heavy metal brain detox.


57 posted on 03/03/2006 9:59:06 AM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: FBD

Don't even get me started on that vast fraud called the flu vaccine! LOL


58 posted on 03/03/2006 9:59:56 AM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: Senator Bedfellow

No. He was vaccinated and now has autism.


59 posted on 03/03/2006 10:02:04 AM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: old and tired

Oh yes. I plan on asking a lot of questions. My child's health depends on it.


60 posted on 03/03/2006 10:03:19 AM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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