'Bush Lied, You Lied'

http://www.jewishpress.com/page.do/8579/%27Bush_Lied%2C_You_Lied%27.html ^ | March 1, 2006 | Paul Kengor

[G.Mason]

"Joe Wilson opposed the war due to fear of mass casualties from Saddam using Chemical Weapons. That's with having a CIA superspook pillow talking wife."

Yep. No contradictions there!

"Having participated in the DESERT FOX airstrikes it cracks me up when the libs claim Bush dreamt this up from his ranch in Texas."

Just how does the most stupid President do this, never mind getting elected to the highest office in the world twice? ;)

This one enlistment Sea Bee thanks for your service.

[cookcounty]

"I find it a bit out of the ordinaire that Iran suddenly announces it has a nuclear program up and functioning within months of Saddam's extraction from the Spider Hole. Anyone considering how long it takes to BUILD such a facility? Well, it's not done overnight!"

I'm not so sure there's a commection. When I was living in Boston in 1975, I met a couple of Iranian students from MIT that were part a cohort of 100 promising young individuals that had been sent by the Shah to study Nuclear Engineering. The program was not a secret. A search would turn up articles from that period about the concerns that this would lead to an Iranian bomb.

[highlander_UW]

The professor is too charitable to the "Bush-Lied-Kids-Died" crowd, whose line of reasoning is not so thoughtful. (I know this because I correspond with them daily.)

The kool aid left isn't interested in the truth, so one wonders why he spent so much time actually corresponding with what is not a serious search for truth but simply an ignorant mob akin to the torch wielding one from Frankenstein.

[ClaireSolt]

This is a wise observation. "I'm not seeking truth, I'm seeking advantage."

[Wristpin]

Then there is the whole sanctions regime thing throughout the 90's. Estimates are that 500,000 to 1 Million Iraqi's starved to death from sanctions put in place due to WMD issue. Clinton lied no one died my AXX!!!

[Coop]

The President and the administration because they went in to neutralize the WMD threat. And it looks as if that failed.

Then why are Iraq and Libya no longer consider threat (or rogue) nations?

[scottdeus12]

ping

[fish hawk]

"Bush lied" just rolls off the tongue so easy and by just yelling that, it saves the libs from actually thinking and using their pea brains. You get them into an argument about anything and their come back is "Bush lied".

[Red Boots]

Some folks are very impressed that "lied" rhymes with "died." So much so that they like to mindlessly repeat it over and over again like some autistic parrot.

HA! HA! I think you are right, in that this rhyme does seem to be the gist of the arguement.

[Grendel9]

1975. Interesting. I'm sure
there were other students at MIT
who were from the mid-East as well
and studying up on the same topic.
NTL, as I recall,m the Shah was a
bit too cozy with the West; and
it cost him dearly.

[Christian4Bush]

bump

[Auntie Dem]

When confronted on a public street by a thug in a dark trenchcoat, hand in pocket, and a menacing bulge plainly obvious, and the thug loudly proclaiming "I have a gun, give me your wallet or I will kill you", one is not required to prove with certainty that the bulge is indeed a gun before you can draw your own weapon and shoot the thug in defense of your own life.

The left would rather have you dead than find that the deceased thug only had a carrot in his pocket. If a leftist looney wants to sacrifice HIS life in such a manner go ahead, but ME--I'll shoot first and ask questions of any survivors later. Just like The President did after 9/11.

[tcrlaf]

Ok....
YOU KNOW THIS, I KNOW THIS, but if it doesn't come in less than a paragraph, or is contained within the context of an easily shoutable 3-5 word slogan, it's beyond the attention span of the average American Liberal....

As evidence, I present this, from another message board, posted less than 3 minutes ago:
Re: BUSH IS F*CKING HITLER.
by: fosbach07 03/03/06 05:10 pm
Msg: 4348843 of 4348843

No explanation, no reasoning of WHY Bush is Hitler, just "Bush is F-In Hitler!!". And it's repeated, over, and over, and over again. No amount of PROOF helps, the same poster comes back day, after day, after day and repeats the same thing, no matter how many FACTS we present.
Then it is picked up and REPEATED by others of the same ilk....

We KNOW the facts support us, but they don't have the same gravitas as an easily shouted Lib slogan, and until we REALIZE this, we are just shouting to the breeze.......

"Bush is Selling OUR PORTS!" is like "They took our JERBS!!", but it carrys with it the same effects. It plants a seed in the minds of the unknowing....

[tonycavanagh]

re :Then why are Iraq and Libya no longer consider threat (or rogue) nations?

Iraq was considered a threat because they had or may of had WMD.

Iraq is no longer the threat as we know occupy Iraq.

But where is the WMD, they are not in our custody.

They are still out there and therefore still a threat. Therefore where WMD is concerned we failed in our mission

[Coop]

Iraq was considered a threat because they had or may of had WMD. Iraq is no longer the threat as we know occupy Iraq.

You just contradicted yourself.

[listenhillary]

Bump to find later

[tonycavanagh]

re :You just contradicted yourself.

No I didn't either debate or don't. I noticed you mention 1 and 2 while conveniently ignoring 3 and 4

1) Iraq was considered a threat because they had or may of had WMD.

2) Iraq is no longer the threat as we now occupy Iraq.

3)But where is the WMD, they are not in our custody.

4)They are still out there and therefore still a threat. Therefore where WMD is concerned we failed in our mission and I will add a 5.

5)Before we moved into Iraq a major reason for removing WMD from this theater was the fact that Saddam may hand them over to a terrorist organisation to use against us.

Since we do not know who now controls them, and if all of them are controlled by the same organistion we have not removed the threat of them falling into terrorist hands and may have increased the chances of that possibility.

[Coop]

Oh, sorry if I didn't keep reading after you contradicted yourself. Here ya go:

Our forces did not in any way, shape or form increase the possibility of WMD falling into terrorist hands. That's wishful thinking (yes, that's exactly what I mean) on your part. The WMD threat was there before, and to a lesser extent still remains. But its supporting infrastructure is further eradicated, and a vicious, soulless tyrant has been removed from power and is no longer in charge of them.

[tonycavanagh]

re :The WMD threat was there before, and to a lesser extent still remains.

Oh thats ok then.

[Coop]

Yes, progress is okay. It's a good thing. But you scurry on back to Utopia now.