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[Winston] Churchill: Proposal Names the British Statesman an Honorary [Virginia] Citizen
Richmond Times-Dispatch ^ | Mar 4, 2006 | PAMELA STALLSMITH

Posted on 03/04/2006 6:56:25 PM PST by Ligeia

Sixty years ago this Wednesday, Winston Churchill addressed the General Assembly and urged the citizens of the United States and Great Britain to stand together.

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.... posthumously make Britain's prime minister during World War II an honorary citizen of Virginia.

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Only three other notables hold honorary state citizenship - the Marquis de Lafayette, the Revolutionary War hero; John D. Rockefeller, the oil baron who underwrote the restoration of Colonial Williamsburg; and Margaret Thatcher, another former British prime minister who also once served as chancellor of the College of William and Mary. She joined the list in 1998.

Virginia's bond with Great Britain runs deep and will be marked during next year's celebration of the 400th anniversary of the founding of Jamestown. The General Assembly is the oldest legislative body in the New World, first meeting in 1619.

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(Excerpt) Read more at timesdispatch.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Virginia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: anniversary; vageneralassembly; virginia; virginiahistory; winstonchurchill
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1 posted on 03/04/2006 6:56:27 PM PST by Ligeia
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To: Ligeia

I would love to see Churchill named an honorary citizen of Virginia.


2 posted on 03/04/2006 6:58:07 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Ligeia
V FoR
3 posted on 03/04/2006 6:59:33 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: wagglebee
Yes, I would, too. The proposal should pass unanimously.
4 posted on 03/04/2006 7:01:09 PM PST by Ligeia
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To: Ligeia
It should have been done 60 years ago. I wish he had given this speech in Virginia.

Sinews of Peace (Iron Curtain)

5 posted on 03/04/2006 7:06:46 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: NormsRevenge

Rule Britannia!

6 posted on 03/04/2006 7:10:59 PM PST by Ligeia
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Does anyone know the jurisprudence of citizenship? In the pre 14th amendment years, all people who were citizen of a state became citizens of the United States by virtue of being a citizen of a state. Does that still apply despite the 14th amendment's citizenship clause? (The 14th amendment says, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.") Also I was wondering if a state can still declare a person to be a citizen of the state because Article I Sec.8 says gives the power to Congress "To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization...throughout the United States;" As you can see the Constitution says that Congress can make uniform rules pertaining to naturalization, but if those rules are met, it doesn't forbid any state from naturalizing such a person. Interestingly enough, it thus seems that the Constitution does not give any right to Congress to declare citizens, but only to make uniform rules which the states follow when declaring others citizens. Any thoughts?


7 posted on 03/04/2006 7:21:11 PM PST by old republic
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To: Ligeia

Meanwhile the left coast and Northeast States are fighting over selecting Neville Chamberlain as their favorite Englishman.


8 posted on 03/04/2006 7:24:50 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the rear, or a Fool from any side.”)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Might want to rethink this, Churchill once ate Middle Eastern food and he had meetings with people who were Muslims.


9 posted on 03/04/2006 7:29:13 PM PST by bybybill (If the Rats win, we are doomed)
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To: Ligeia
I whole heartedly endorse this move by Virginia

However, wouldn't he already be an American citizen by law, since his mother (Jenny Churchill) was an American citizen?

10 posted on 03/04/2006 7:30:17 PM PST by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: wagglebee
Churchill is already an honorary United States citizen. That happened on April 9, 1963 - when Congress voted him honorary American citizenship.

Best he can get out of Virginia is "residency", but he's dead.

11 posted on 03/04/2006 7:31:30 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: wagglebee
Thank you for the link. The final paragraph:

Let no man underrate the abiding power of the British Empire and Commonwealth. Because you see the 46 millions in our island harassed about their food supply, of which they only grow one half, even in war-time, or because we have difficulty in restarting our industries and export trade after six years of passionate war effort, do not suppose that we shall not come through these dark years of privation as we have come through the glorious years of agony, or that half a century from now, you will not see 70 or 80 millions of Britons spread about the world and united in defence of our traditions, our way of life, and of the world causes which you and we espouse. If the population of the English-speaking Commonwealths be added to that of the United States with all that such co-operation implies in the air, on the sea, all over the globe and in science and in industry, and in moral force, there will be no quivering, precarious balance of power to offer its temptation to ambition or adventure. On the contrary, there will be an overwhelming assurance of security. If we adhere faithfully to the Charter of the United Nations and walk forward in sedate and sober strength seeking no one's land or treasure, seeking to lay no arbitrary control upon the thoughts of men; if all British moral and material forces and convictions are joined with your own in fraternal association, the high-roads of the future will be clear, not only for us but for all, not only for our time, but for a century to come.

12 posted on 03/04/2006 7:32:58 PM PST by Ligeia
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Meanwhile the left coast and Northeast States are fighting over selecting Neville Chamberlain as their favorite Englishman.

Sadly true.

13 posted on 03/04/2006 7:33:55 PM PST by Ligeia
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To: bybybill
The UK had many countries under many different religions.
Your tiny minded reply means squat.
14 posted on 03/04/2006 7:41:45 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the rear, or a Fool from any side.”)
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To: wagglebee
You do know that some people think that Churchill was behind the sinking of the Lousantia(how do you spell that), so he could get the good old USA into WWI don't you? I heard good old Chris Matthew's say he thought there was some truth to the theory.
15 posted on 03/04/2006 7:57:54 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: muawiyah

Yep!

As I was told, only Churchill and Raoul Wallenberg have ever been granted "honorary" US Citizenship.

Does anyone know if this is still true?


16 posted on 03/04/2006 7:59:04 PM PST by Bubbatuck
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To: org.whodat

There is little doubt that the British were aware of the likelihood that the Lusitania would be sunk and that it would be the catalyst to bring the US into WWI and Churchill was almost certainly aware of this due to his position in the government. However, to accuse him of being "behind" the sinking implies that he assisted the Germans in doing this and that would be treason -- and that is an outrageous accusation.


17 posted on 03/04/2006 8:05:07 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: muawiyah; EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; ...
Churchill is already an honorary United States citizen. That happened on April 9, 1963 - when Congress voted him honorary American citizenship.

Yes, but as any good Virginian can tell you, this is one step higher...

To Be a Virginian
either by birth, marriage, adoption,
or even on one's mother's side,
is an introduction to any state in the Union,
a passport to any foreign country,
and a benediction from the Almighty God.
~ Anonymous

18 posted on 03/04/2006 8:11:18 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/liberaliTEES)
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To: Bubbatuck

Lafayette!


19 posted on 03/04/2006 8:12:08 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: wagglebee
Some blockheaded Germans did the Lusitania thing on their own. At the same time the Brits had loaded it with war materiele.

Their intention was to violate American neutrality.

20 posted on 03/04/2006 8:13:15 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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