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[Winston] Churchill:
Proposal Names the British Statesman an Honorary [Virginia] Citizen
Richmond Times-Dispatch ^
| Mar 4, 2006
| PAMELA STALLSMITH
Posted on 03/04/2006 6:56:25 PM PST by Ligeia
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To: Ligeia
oh great even the dead are immigrating to america its out of control I tell you :-)
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posted on
03/04/2006 8:15:40 PM PST
by
freepatriot32
(Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
To: freepatriot32
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posted on
03/04/2006 8:24:01 PM PST
by
Spirited
To: Ligeia
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posted on
03/04/2006 9:55:14 PM PST
by
jocon307
(The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
To: Phsstpok
However, wouldn't he already be an American citizen by law, since his mother (Jenny Churchill) was an American citizen?
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I'm pretty sure he swore allegiance to the King of Great Britain and Ireland at some time or other during his career, so no, if he had American citizenship he renounced it by his actions.
To: Ligeia
I see nothing wrong with it – as long as it doesn’t become a routine.
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posted on
03/05/2006 3:57:48 AM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: old republic
This is the award of an honorary Virginia Citizenship.
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posted on
03/05/2006 4:00:19 AM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: Corin Stormhands
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posted on
03/05/2006 5:11:57 AM PST
by
Ligeia
To: R. Scott
This is the award of an honorary Virginia Citizenship.
You don't address the issue. Honorary citizenship is still citizenship. The Constitution doesn't differentiate between "honorary" citizenship and normal citizenship status. Also this granting citizenship to the dead is political grandstanding because it serves no practical purpose. Its like the votes of the Roman Senate to declare Julius Caesar and Augustus gods.
To: old republic
“Honorary” is not actual. It is not “real”.
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posted on
03/05/2006 3:42:59 PM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
To: R. Scott
“Honorary” is not actual. It is not “real”.
Legally I don't think that there is a distinction between honorary and "real" citizenship. Honorary citizenship confers the same honors and privileges as normal citizenship. The Merriam Webster Dictionary defines defines honorary as "conferred or elected in recognition of achievement or service without the usual prerequisites or obligations." Hence the citizenship is legally real. The difference is that the conferral of it waives the prerequisites and obligations normally associated therewith. (If someone were granted honorary citizenship while still alive, they would be entitled to all of the privileges thereto pertaining.)
To: old republic
I can’t argue with Webster’s, but do have to disagree with the usage.
Many people are awarded honorary degrees by universities for various reasons – but would an honorary doctorate qualify the recipient for a position requiring a doctorate?
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03/06/2006 3:10:12 AM PST
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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