Criminals like this guy have opted to give up their rights when they choose to take the rights of others away.
1 posted on
03/07/2006 8:05:44 AM PST by
Sopater
To: Sopater
No. Criminals do not give up their rights. In effect, you're saying that when someone is "accused" of a crime, then they lose their rights. They can be beat up. Witnesses can be paid and bribed, etc.
The Constitution has worked for as long as it has because there are some out there who actually follow it. Don't let your justice zeal get the best of you.
parsy, the smart.
2 posted on
03/07/2006 8:09:01 AM PST by
parsifal
("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
To: Sopater
Engelhard noted that the victim was white, as were all the jurors, and Gentry is black
I hope that this guy isn't trying to imply that black folks would better understand why he raped and killed a little girl.
3 posted on
03/07/2006 8:09:52 AM PST by
Sopater
(Creatio Ex Nihilo)
To: Sopater
re :Rosen said there was an abundance of physical evidence, which included DNA and blood evidence, as well as eyewitness testimony that implicated Gentry.
I don't know the case, and the burden of proof needed to convict in a American court but if this true, why did they need to make back door deals with informers on the inside.
4 posted on
03/07/2006 8:13:48 AM PST by
tonycavanagh
(We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
To: Sopater
I feel really bad his rights have been violated. The state should just hurry up with his execution (too late!) so he can stop worrying about it.
6 posted on
03/07/2006 8:16:04 AM PST by
Millee
(Don't make me get out my voodoo doll out!)
To: Sopater
Hang the dude, and prosecute all involved in the irregularites that occured during the trial. This includes the DA, police, jail staff, and the prisoners who gave untrue testimony. The guy is guilty, and those involved in the prosocutorial misconduct could have allowed him to go free.
7 posted on
03/07/2006 8:17:09 AM PST by
joe fonebone
(Woodstock defined the current crop of libs, but who cleaned up the mess they left?)
To: Sopater
The courts of the State of Washington has a history for abusing the constitutional rights of people. Not saying this guy is innocent.
Paying inmates and granting them favors for their testimony is a clear violation; especially if they were undisclosed. This alone is sufficient for a retrial.
I know of one case where this happened. The retrial was going so badly for the prosecution, the prosecutor intentionally created a mistrial situation in order to avoid the greater embarrassment of a not guilty verdict.
To: Sopater
"During the trial's closing arguments, a Kitsap County deputy prosecutor repeatedly told jurors that Gentry referred to the victim as a "bitch," Engelhard told U.S. District Judge Robert Lasnik."
You'll notice that Englehard never actually denied that his client called her that. It seems like they're just trying to help this beast get off on a technicality when he's clearly guilty. The fact that Englehard had to stoop to playing the race card further proves this.
10 posted on
03/07/2006 8:28:11 AM PST by
Chewie84
To: Sopater
Girl's killer says rights violated during trial Girl would say rights violated during murder.
11 posted on
03/07/2006 8:30:26 AM PST by
infidel29
("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
To: Former Military Chick
Here's a crime and punishment ping for you.
14 posted on
03/07/2006 8:31:34 AM PST by
infidel29
("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
To: Sopater
I marvel how it took them so long to play the Race Card. TM. Oh wait, it didn't help Stanley Williams and he was a celebrated author. I'm waiting to see if it makes a difference for an ordinary black street thug.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
18 posted on
03/07/2006 8:51:45 AM PST by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Sopater
I'm always baffled... in our quest for perfect justice some victims are "Twice" or "Thrice" victims by the courts.
How many innocent people are twice victims compared to innocent, 'accused criminals', wrongly convicted.
300,000 "twice victims" for every 1 wrongly convicted criminal.
That must be perfect justice.
Are we proud of ourselves?
To: Sopater
***Jonathan Lee Gentry, 48, who has been on death row longer than any inmate now in the state's prison system***
There is the problem right there.
29 posted on
03/07/2006 9:16:29 AM PST by
irishtenor
(At 270 pounds, I am twice the bike rider Lance is.)
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