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N.J. has last laugh: No. 5 in livability
Philly Inquirer ^ | Thu, Mar. 09, 2006 | Troy Graham

Posted on 03/09/2006 6:48:25 AM PST by Huck

Who's laughing now?

New Jersey, the state that spawned a thousand wise-guy bumper stickers and became the butt of a million late-night jokes, is actually a nice place to live.

The research group Morgan Quitno crunched the numbers this year and yesterday ranked New Jersey the fifth-most-livable state.

As for its neighbors?

Pennsylvania finished 30th, New York 32d.

"The people we talk to say they wouldn't live anywhere else, and I have to go along with that," said Mark Moran, a Bloomfield resident and one of the editors of Weird New Jersey magazine. "Whether it grows on you or people just don't know any better, I don't know."

New Jersey has long had a tragically poor reputation, earned by corrupt politicians, homicidal mobsters (real and fictional), surreal traffic patterns (who invented the jughandle, anyway?), toxic waste, and big hair.

The state's image has been so bad that even then-acting Gov. Richard Codey took the time last year to rollick in some of the more humorous entries in his public slogan contest.

Among the favorites: "New Jersey: You got a problem with that?" and "New Jersey: Most of our elected officials have not been indicted."

Morgan Quitno, a Kansas-based publisher of statistical data, based its rankings on 44 factors, and New Jersey shined in many.

The state moved up from eighth place a year ago. New Hampshire was judged the most livable state for the third year in a row.

The study determined that New Jersey has excellent schools; an educated, wealthy population; and relatively low rates of crime and poverty.

"We don't claim to be finding the most exciting place or the best place to take a vacation," said Scott Morgan, president of Morgan Quitno. "It's just looking at very basic things. Other people can choose to look at other factors."

In other words, the things that make Jersey so Jersey didn't count against it. (Except for the toxic waste: Morgan found New Jersey had the most "hazardous waste sites on the National Priority List per 10,000 square miles.")

Moran also noted that if auto insurance and property tax rates had been considered, New Jersey's ranking would have sunk like a stone.

But in Morgan Quitno's world, livability is measured by factors such as student-teacher ratios and per-capita spending on the arts, and New Jersey excelled in both.

For Moran, there is no conflict in a state's combining livability with a tradition for the weird and absurd.

"You've got to take the good with the bad," he said. "The fact that it's such an odd and unique place... certainly makes it more livable for me."

Morgan visited the state last year and made a swing through Camden, the city his publishing company has famously labeled the most dangerous the last two years.

"We didn't advertise who we were," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: New Jersey
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

Pennsylvania is not a fun place at all.


21 posted on 03/09/2006 6:58:53 AM PST by Huck (space for rent)
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To: Ken522

I can't take FLA. It's probably one of my least favorite states. Hate the weather. NJ summers are June-Sept. I like having 4 seasons.


22 posted on 03/09/2006 6:59:49 AM PST by Huck (space for rent)
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To: facedown

Dear lord, what was their standards?


23 posted on 03/09/2006 6:59:56 AM PST by najida (Somedays you're the mud, other days the pig. Either way, you can sit in the sunshine and dry out ;))
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To: Huck

You live in Jersey? What exit?


24 posted on 03/09/2006 6:59:59 AM PST by SengirV
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To: harpu

Fiction=not real. You know that, right?


25 posted on 03/09/2006 7:00:13 AM PST by Huck (space for rent)
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To: generally
Here is the list of factors.
26 posted on 03/09/2006 7:01:07 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: Huck

New Jersey rocks BUMP from down the shore.


27 posted on 03/09/2006 7:01:07 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: Vaquero

Interesting. I really don't feel any less free in NJ than in most other states that have at least a million people. The peopleless states like Montana or Wyoming are another story, but what do you expect from states with more land than people? You have to be realistic.


28 posted on 03/09/2006 7:01:47 AM PST by Huck (space for rent)
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To: Huck
Here are the 2006 livability ratings. Don hip waders before reading.
29 posted on 03/09/2006 7:02:27 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Facts are a Zionist plot!" --MarkL)
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To: Huck

Livability, let me see:

I'm on the GSP, its Friday rush hour, I am going past the "boneyard" on my way to the "hole in the wall."

And why should I like this????

(to all Freeper, you have to know north jersey traffic to understand this one.)


30 posted on 03/09/2006 7:04:22 AM PST by Al Gator (Remember always to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: Huck

Then why do you have to pay the bridge toll to LEAVE NJ?


31 posted on 03/09/2006 7:05:38 AM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Alas, here's the Real Raw Deal in New Jersey:


32 posted on 03/09/2006 7:06:28 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Huck

He is?


33 posted on 03/09/2006 7:07:06 AM PST by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Al Gator
Well, if you're heading south, you could like it if you're on your way to the shore, or maybe to red bank to catch a band and some dinner, or even going all the way down to cape may to eat lunch on the beach and watch the dolphins swimming around.

If you are heading north, maybe you are headed up to the Catskills or the Adirondacks for a weekend getaway, or perhaps you're going to the city for some entertainment.

Or maybe you're just a big baby whining about traffic and cemetaries. Oh the horror. Sad so many people have such negative attitudes about life.

34 posted on 03/09/2006 7:07:08 AM PST by Huck (space for rent)
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To: Huck

Memo to Troy Graham:

The past tense of "shine" is "shone".


35 posted on 03/09/2006 7:07:11 AM PST by Ike (Show solidarity with the Iraqis and end voter fraud: enact "blue finger" legislation!)
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To: Huck
I'm always leery of these studies. The criteria is never clear. What makes education "excellent" - money spent, schools built, number of graduates?

I had to laugh when he said, "the people we talk to say they wouldn't live anywhere else..." That's true no matter where you go because those that would live anywhere else have moved away.
36 posted on 03/09/2006 7:08:22 AM PST by Jaysun (The plain truth is that I am not a fair man, and don't want to hear both sides.)
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To: kenavi

Ask New York or Pennsylvania. You're blaming NJ for NOT charging? I guess you just can't win with some people.


37 posted on 03/09/2006 7:08:27 AM PST by Huck (space for rent)
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To: Ike

Sorry - should have qualified my statement... when shine is used in the intransitive.


38 posted on 03/09/2006 7:09:10 AM PST by Ike (Show solidarity with the Iraqis and end voter fraud: enact "blue finger" legislation!)
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To: Huck
This is a joke,right? Give me the bottom three anytime, spend some time in Lafayette, Hot Springs or Meridian and tell me how bad it is.
39 posted on 03/09/2006 7:11:03 AM PST by gumboyaya
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To: Huck
If you live along the Jersey Shore Monmouth, Ocean, Cape May counties or in the Northwestern part of the state,Morris, Sussex, Warren, Hunterdon I would agree. However the rest of the state is garbage. The long term future of New Jersey is very bad. I would urge anyone with conservative values to leave this state and head for the South or the West not the West Coast. I am talking Idaho, Montana etc. New Jersey under Corzine is headed for bankruptcy after years of left wing liberal leadership both Democrat and Republican.
40 posted on 03/09/2006 7:11:43 AM PST by Courdeleon02
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