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Did Humans Decimate Easter Island On Arrival?
New Scientist ^ | 3-9-2006 | Bob Holmes

Posted on 03/09/2006 5:21:22 PM PST by blam

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1 posted on 03/09/2006 5:21:25 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 03/09/2006 5:21:59 PM PST by blam
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What caused the collapse of Easter Island civilisation?

25 September 2004
From New Scientist Print Edition.

THE mysterious inhabitants of Easter Island in the Pacific Ocean did not wreck their pristine environment and so ruin their chances of survival. They were the victims of circumstance and were probably doomed to perish.

Easter Island has long been a mystery: a wind-blasted and treeless landscape dominated by giant stone statues set by its long-since-departed Polynesian inhabitants. Because it was once forested, it has become an emblem of environmental and social decline.

But a detailed study of 70 Pacific islands pinpoints nine environmental predictors of Pacific deforestation before the arrival of Europeans, and comes to a different conclusion (Nature, vol 431, p 443). "Easter's collapse was not because its people were especially improvident, but because they faced one of the Pacific's most fragile environments," says geographer Jared Diamond of the University of California, Los Angeles.

The island's remoteness in the eastern Pacific meant it rarely, if ever, benefited from fertile volcanic dust brought on the winds from eruptions in Asia. It is also low-lying, small and dry. And the island is distant from the equator, so the Polynesians' favourite trees, such as breadfruit and Tahitian chestnut, would not grow there. These factors would have made it difficult for the island's inhabitants to grow new trees to replace those they used.

From issue 2466 of New Scientist magazine, 25 September 2004, page 17

3 posted on 03/09/2006 5:26:26 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

George Bush's fault.


4 posted on 03/09/2006 5:26:40 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: blam

Are they making this stuff up as they go along ping???


5 posted on 03/09/2006 5:27:21 PM PST by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: blam

If Gray Davis or Al Gore had been running things, this never would have happened.


6 posted on 03/09/2006 5:31:31 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: blam

I heard it was immigration from muslim lands and gun control


7 posted on 03/09/2006 5:31:33 PM PST by Frank_N_Sense
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To: blam

What I love about the Easter Island story is that is debunks the benign native impact on the environment myth we have been fed by the shovel full for years.


8 posted on 03/09/2006 5:31:49 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: blam

I read years ago that someone calculated it only took 34 generations for the original population to die out. (680 years)


9 posted on 03/09/2006 5:32:04 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: blam

My guess is that it was the first, and maybe only, successful prison colony.


10 posted on 03/09/2006 5:33:16 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: blam

Bush's fault.


11 posted on 03/09/2006 5:33:38 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: blam
"Easter's collapse was not because its people were especially improvident, but because they faced one of the Pacific's most fragile environments," says geographer Jared Diamond of the University of California, Los Angeles.

I saw an analysis recently that said that the land-ownership system in E.I. was to blame, that had anyone had an incentive to think about the future (as they do in, for example, modern tree farms), the forests would've been more than adequately preserved.

Prof. Diamond is an ecologic determinist who believes that biologists are the primary experts worth listening to, so I suspect he wouldn't have much time for that view.

12 posted on 03/09/2006 5:35:40 PM PST by untenured
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To: blam

Like Haiti but with fancier statuary.


13 posted on 03/09/2006 5:39:15 PM PST by fat city ("Journalists are sloppy, lazy and on expense account")
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"Prof. Diamond is an ecologic determinist who believes that biologists are the primary experts worth listening to, so I suspect he wouldn't have much time for that view."

Yup. I just completed reading his book, Collapse. He did compare Haiti to Easter Island.

14 posted on 03/09/2006 6:07:26 PM PST by blam
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the new inhabitants of Easter Island must have begun hacking down trees almost immediately, building the gigantic monuments and stone heads

The thought that the people intelligent enough to create and erect the monuments were so stupid as to render their existence obsolete is a real stretch.

15 posted on 03/09/2006 6:08:43 PM PST by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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It's not hard to conceive at all. Also they were not one happy tribe, there was serious internal strife with vandalism of rival clan statues


16 posted on 03/09/2006 6:26:17 PM PST by Mount Athos
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I don't think we know how it was done. I saw a documentary where some people erected a rock about 1/20th the size of an actual statue, and proclaimed the mystery solved. I had a good laugh over that one.


17 posted on 03/09/2006 6:31:53 PM PST by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: tet68

Don't you mean, "Ancestors of George Bush's fault"?;)))


18 posted on 03/09/2006 6:54:20 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: blam
There's an interesting alternate theory out there, that the ecological & societal collapse didn't occur until much later, when the Peruvians & others started kidnapping the natives en masse for slavery.
19 posted on 03/09/2006 7:09:31 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: Life and Solitude in Easter Island by Verdugo-Binimelis)
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To: blam

Yeah, yeah, we know, humans bad, humans destroy, we should all just die, the world would be better, blah, blah, blah, Zzzzzzz


20 posted on 03/09/2006 7:30:36 PM PST by IYellAtMyTV (Workday Forecast--Increasing pressure towards afternoon. Rum likely by evening.)
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