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Teacher's attorney: Lesson learned (Jay Bennish Pretends To Backtrack)
Denver Post ^ | March 10, 2006 | Allison Sherry and Annette Espinoza

Posted on 03/10/2006 4:37:07 AM PST by PJ-Comix

Social studies teacher Jay Bennish told Cherry Creek school leaders Thursday that he should have used a different dictator when comparing President Bush to Adolf Hitler in a geography class, his lawyer David Lane said Thursday.

Bennish also told district officials that he should have balanced each lecture "contemporaneously" on controversial issues rather than over the course of the term, Lane said.

"When he gives the yin, give the yang right there," he said. "Don't wait a week."

Fewer than a dozen complaints to the school have surfaced, Lane said, since the "national turmoil" has unfolded about Bennish, who was recorded giving a lecture critical of the president by one of his Overland High School students.

"He wishes he would have picked a different dictator," Lane told a pack of reporters after the closed-door talk with Cherry Creek school administrators Thursday, referring to comments Bennish made comparing Bush to Hitler.

As for the provocative nature of his comments, "that is what he does," said Lane, who also represents University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill.

Lane said Bennish was not going to apologize but that the 90-minute meeting with Cherry Creek School District leaders was "very positive. ... I expect him back teaching Monday."

Bennish was placed on paid administrative leave last week while officials probed allegations that he was biased after sophomore Sean Allen went public with a recording he made of a Feb. 1 geography lecture.

School district spokeswoman Tustin Amole said Cherry Creek Superintendent Monte Moses is expected to make a statement today.

Also on Thursday, the Colorado State Board of Education chairwoman halted a meeting because Republican members insisted on a resolution condemning Bennish. At the state Capitol, one senator introduced an amendment that would make future such incidents grounds for termination.

New among the complaints is a charge that Bennish showed a movie called "Black Robe" that criticized colonialism, Lane said.

Another parent said Bennish was a "pointy-nosed liberal professor" and that he let students in class listen to a Spearhead song that contained curse words, Lane said.

Lane said that Bennish got parental permission slips before showing "Black Robe," which is rated R.

"C'mon, if this is all that they got since the most exhaustive investigation since Ward Churchill, ... it's almost laughable," Lane said.

Lane gave two examples of how Bennish is a balanced teacher - a point Cherry Creek leaders were particularly concerned with, he said.

Earlier in the school year, Bennish took two days to talk about the Danish newspaper cartoon critical of the Muslim prophet Muhammad. One day he gave the Muslim perspective about why the cartoon was offensive, the next day he gave the "traditional Western liberal view," Lane said.

Bennish also told students he'd give them extra credit if they joined either a pro- or anti-Columbus Day celebration and wrote about it, Lane said.

Earlier Thursday, a Colorado State Board of Education meeting came to a halt after deadlocking over considering a resolution criticizing Bennish.

Board member Bob Schaffer tried to add the resolution to the board's agenda. Schaffer, a former Republican congressman, found support from three other Republican board members.

Four Democrats chose not to allow the addition of the resolution, which declared that Bennish had "perpetrated upon his students an extreme form of economic, cultural, political and religious bias."

Board chairwoman Pamela Jo Suckla broke the tie over Schaffer's resolution with a parliamentary decision to end the meeting before action could be taken on 20 agenda items.

"I come to these meetings for business," Suckla said. "I can see this is a lose-lose situation. ... I don't want to make us look more like idiots."

Still, Suckla joined Schaffer and board members Randy DeHoff and Peggy Littleton in signing a letter nearly identical to Schaffer's resolution.

Across the street at the Capitol, Sen. Doug Lamborn, R-Colorado Springs, introduced an amendment on the Senate floor that could make future incidents clear grounds for termination.

His amendment to an existing Republican bill changing how the state collects teachers' fingerprints proposes firing teachers for "a pattern of failing to present balanced viewpoints on controversial topics as required by school district policy."

Lamborn said his amendment would protect students from teachers in the future and protect school districts from lawsuits by teachers they fire.

It would not apply to Bennish, he said.

Democrats postponed a vote on the proposal.


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To: TexasTaysor

Not much useful learning going on then.

More of the dumbing down of America.


21 posted on 03/10/2006 5:29:47 AM PST by airborne
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To: TexasTaysor
The geography courses of today are called Mental Mapping. As I've heard it described severals times lately, it is to find out the concept of what students "perceive" a place (city, state or country) to be like, look like, feel like, etc. Then to find out from them where they would like to live and how they perceive it.

Sounds like complete BS to me. I enjoyed geography quite a bit. However, it was REAL geography not this "perceive" BS.

22 posted on 03/10/2006 5:30:57 AM PST by PJ-Comix ((Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
He is condescending, arrogant, a smooth leftist spinner, and an Orwellian Newspeaker.

He's innerly delighted you were fired, would support such action again, and he's patting you on the head like a little puppy.

Contacting him for anything just feeds his ego more. You can never change the mind-set of people like him. Write him off. You need his opinion like I need bird flu.

Leni

23 posted on 03/10/2006 5:31:00 AM PST by MinuteGal (Sail the Bounding Main to the Balmy, Palmy Caribbean on FReeps Ahoy 4. Register Now!)
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To: PJ-Comix
Well, one day she didn't show up in class and we found out she actually did go to Cuba to live and work as an interpreter for the government. Some time later we found out she was tossed in jail down there.

LMAO!!!!! Welcome to the worker's paradise of el Cubana.

24 posted on 03/10/2006 5:31:53 AM PST by EricT. ("I reject your reality and substitute my own."-Adam Savage)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

"How would some of you analyze the above response? "

Lots of platitudes. Probably got practice with parents telling them how little Billy has potential. He thought you were wrong then, and on reflection, yeah, still wrong today.... you just did not fit his mind set of conformists then and would not today.

But take heart, MeneMeneTekelUpharsin, remember, that you have much to offer us on FR. Never stop growing.

;)


25 posted on 03/10/2006 5:32:38 AM PST by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: PJ-Comix
It wouldn't be Fidel Castro since Bennish admires him.

Not Saddam either--the left sees him as a victim.

Stalin? No. He was just misunderstood.

Maybe Pol Pot?

26 posted on 03/10/2006 5:33:09 AM PST by silent_jonny ("... anger rests in the bosom of fools" -- Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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To: EricT.

Dang, I need some coffee. There are too many mistakes in that post. My quality control needs a caffeine kick.


27 posted on 03/10/2006 5:35:10 AM PST by EricT. ("I reject your reality and substitute my own."-Adam Savage)
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To: airborne
"I fail to see how any of this relates to geography."

It is strange to me that Geography is a high school elective, or required course.
When I was in public school, back in the 50s, geography was taught in Elementary school. I can still see the textbook in my mind.
It was the start of my learning about the world, prior to my becoming a ham radio operator and contacting someone in every country of the world.
28 posted on 03/10/2006 5:37:00 AM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: Sloth
I disagree--I don't see how politics can be any more related to a discussion of geography than any other subject. At least language is related to a country or region's culture, which may have more to do with its politics than whether or not there's a mountain range or a river running nearby.

Introducing politics into every aspect of our lives, including elementary geography classes, is not a good thing.

29 posted on 03/10/2006 5:41:49 AM PST by Lou L
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To: AlexW

Wasn't there some horror movie that was filmed recently in Slovakia that the Slovakians are pissed off about? I heard something about this on the radio but didn't catch the whole thing.


30 posted on 03/10/2006 5:42:33 AM PST by PJ-Comix ((Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: PJ-Comix
Well, one day she didn't show up in class and we found out she actually did go to Cuba to live and work as an interpreter for the government. Some time later we found out she was tossed in jail down there.

That's kind of heartwarming on a cold morning.

It would be interesting to hear her perspective today.

31 posted on 03/10/2006 5:45:01 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Free Republic, the newspaper I can talk back to!)
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To: AlexW

I'd like to test this teacher's students to see if they could point to UAE on a map.


32 posted on 03/10/2006 5:45:15 AM PST by airborne
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To: PJ-Comix
Sounds like complete BS to me.

I agree. I don't need any more perception of war-torn Zimbabwe, drought-ridden Sudan, or rain-drenched jungles of Bangledesh, to know that I wouldn't want to live there.

but with the exception of gang wars in soem African countries, what's any of that got to do with politics?

33 posted on 03/10/2006 5:46:43 AM PST by Lou L
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

People are voting with their feet. At least those that can afford to do so. It seems that a camera with, audio feed, should be mandatory in all public school classrooms. I'll bet the teacher's union would oppose that all the way to the supreme court!

I'm sorry for your termination. Their loss. The public school system is broken. It would completely implode if all Christian school teachers/principals resigned and left them with no balance at all. Socialism doesn't work. No matter how you repackage, rethink, reword the socialist agenda it still produces an elite set overseeing the nameless, unimportant masses.


34 posted on 03/10/2006 5:52:12 AM PST by Sweet Hour of Prayer
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To: PJ-Comix
...I don't want to make us look more like idiots."

Too late.

35 posted on 03/10/2006 5:52:18 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: PJ-Comix
"Wasn't there some horror movie that was filmed recently in Slovakia that the Slovakians are pissed off about?"

Maybe, but I really know nothing about it. I think I heard some mention of that, but I will find out by tonight.
I am invited by my French friend here in Bratislava to go see a movie.
It is funny, we always razz the French, but I have to admit, my best friends in Slovakia are all French!
The Brits in Slovakia are all jerks, and I am being polite to call them jerks...I don't want to be kicked off of FR. hahaha

I know that Slovakia was poorly portrayed in a silly teenybopper film "Eurotrip"
36 posted on 03/10/2006 5:57:14 AM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: PJ-Comix
PJ...I forgot to mention that I must look for your "farmers sausage". I have that on my list.
Any other Freepers that have an interest in this small, but nice country, email to me or check www.Slovensko.com.
There is also a forum section... Check it out.
37 posted on 03/10/2006 6:04:27 AM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: AlexW
When I was in public school, back in the 50s, geography was taught in Elementary school. I can still see the textbook in my mind.
It was the start of my learning about the world, prior to my becoming a ham radio operator and contacting someone in every country of the world.

Same here. We studied real geography, too. I can still see the travel posters on the wall for Brazil and remember the project on Maine! That was either second or third grade during the 60's.

BTW, congrats on your QSL's & QSO's!
38 posted on 03/10/2006 6:05:25 AM PST by hummingbird
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Actually I don't think it's a bad response.

First of all the guy is a principal of a liberal school - and you already know he is a liberal. Your email and what happened in Colorado is not going to change his views.

His only reaction to the flap is: Thank the Lord I don't have to deal with that problem.

He said some very nice things about you that he didn't have to say. Focus on those comments.

The best thing in the world for you is to be out of a situation where your work is not valued.


39 posted on 03/10/2006 6:07:48 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: AlexW
PJ...I forgot to mention that I must look for your "farmers sausage". I have that on my list.

Kabanosi.

40 posted on 03/10/2006 6:13:40 AM PST by PJ-Comix ((Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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