Martinsville High School Student Chokes to Death at School (Teacher prevented 911 call)

WISH Channel 8 TV ^ | 3/10/06

[Old_Mil]

I used to think that our public schools were zoos and that teachers were the zookeepers. I've come to realize that our public schools are zoos, the administrators are the zookeepers, and the teachers are the monkeys.

[ontos-on]

it is also possible that you are a giraffe.

[Old_Mil]

Strange, i thought it be universal in the industrialised countries.

What makes you think we're an industrialized country?

[varon]

.........no common sense there ...........

Obviously a public school. I'll be there was a lot of diversity, though.

[ontos-on]

What i mean to say is that you are speculating crazily from your son's experience to a completely different situation where the choking on the hamburger is clearly involved. You are exhibiting what I call psuedo knowledge. You know something but you have no idea hoe to apply this piece of knowledge.

The only common link to your kid's situation was that there was a HS kid in distress and there was a death. Recall that there was the eating of a hamburgere here which you easily dismiss and import all your extraneous facts to this situation. The lack of judgment which you exhibit here was also involved in this tragedy: the dumb teacher thought she knew something too, and relied on that rule rather than real perception and proper judgment--which had probably atrophied from teaching in a public HS. God save us all.

[Galveston Grl]

Call me crazy, but I would rather the schools use common sense and punish the guilty and leave the innocent alone.
I want them to enforce the rules unless the rule is going to kill someone and needs to be broken (i.e. call 911 from your cell phone).

As for the NAACP filing nuisance race baiting law suits, I would rather the judges follow the law of the land than try to run the schools from the bench.

[ChildOfThe60s]

Thanks, Amelia.

BTTT

[S0122017]

The industry?

[RightOnline]

All I see in this story is a parade of idiots.

[Galveston Grl]

**A previous poster claimed that zero tolerance policies were a way for school administrators to appear anti-racist when "expel[ling] gang members, rapists, violent attackers and murderers", who were presumably all black, by giving said administrators a way to expel white boys for minor offenses.**

Your comments still don't make sense in light of what was posted by me on race baiting tatics which resulted in zero tolerance/zero justice policies.

[Old Professer]

One of these almost got me:

[wintertime]

As someone on the thread has already pointed out, CPR does no good until the airway is cleared.

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Certification in CPR includes the Heimlich. It's part of the "P"in CPR. It clears the pulmonary or airway system.

[wintertime]

He was sucking on the orange and the seed was inhaled into his trachea. People do have airway obstructions from small objects. Also, even a very small object can cause laryngospasm and suffocation. Ask a dentist.

Even if the airway was not completely obstructed his sister's action may have prevented the orange seed lodging in a bronchial tube. That would have required a hospital visit and a bronchoscopy.

Anyway,,,,it was very fortunate. My 8 year old son knew what signal to make ( finger pointing to the throat) and his 6 year old sister didn't panic and knew exactly what to do.

[Amelia]

Your comments still don't make sense in light of what was posted by me on race baiting tatics which resulted in zero tolerance/zero justice policies.

That's because your entire premise is wrong.

If you'll do even a cursory search about "zero tolerance", you'll find it was enacted not because of "race-baiting" or fairness issues, but because of fears of school violence, sparked in part by widely publicized school shootings.

You'll also find that most research shows that minorities are more likely to be punished under zero-tolerance policies.

[wintertime]

What happened is his child tried to eat a hamburger too fast and wound up choking. That is the proximate cause of his death. The business with the cell phones and everything else has very little to do with it.

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What struck me was that this young man was rushing to finish his lunch. Why? Because he was not allowed to take food outside.

Why did he have too little time to eat? If the school was responsible for his having too little time, why wasn't he given more time?

[Toespi]

"And no one used Heimlich?"


Obviously not, probably wasn't allowed in school.

[Amelia]

You might want to look at post #155. Several other articles in local newspapers gave information that's lacking in this one.

[wintertime]

. My understanding is that contemporary students "sass" teachers on a whim these days. Maintaining order amongst these little angels must take an enormous amount of effort, what with a couple hundred kids in a typical school...all enamored with their cellular telephones.

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Is this the wonderful socialization that government school defenders say our homeschooled children are missing out on?

[wintertime]

Would you rather that your tax money be spent fighting the lawsuits filed by the NAACP, etc., asserting that the schools are racist or negligent?


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I'd really like to see the privatization of universal K-12 education. Now,,THAT would be a real tax savings. It would also end a lot of this nuttiness.

[Yaelle]

A friend of mine last week did not see in a public place that her 2-yr-old had found and accidentally swallowed a quarter. When she and the others with her saw the child choking, none of them knew the Heimlich formally but they did all the right things. They saw nothing in her mouth. They turned her facing down at a 45 degree angle. My friend hit in and up at her baby's solar plexus and out popped the quarter. Thank G-d.

Even a Heimlich improperly done is better than leaving the poor person to die.