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To: Alamo-Girl

You've got me listed well enough as can be! To expand on my previous comments slightly, my view is that "ultimate reality" or "all that there is" (or however one wants to put it) must be logically coherent. Therefore, you cannot have a "beginning" and you cannot have an "end" and you cannot have anything "beyond" and so on and so forth. In other words, in the grandest plane of existence, you could never ask a question like "What came before the Big Bang?" or "Where would you be if you stood at the edge of the universe and took one more step?"

Do you see where I'm going with that? Within the four dimensions that we are able to conceptualize a closed system is not possible. No matter how far back you unwind time there will always be a second beforehand; no matter how for down you wind up time there will always be a second afterward; and no matter how far out you go in space there will always be an inch further.

So, as I envision things, there must be a grander reality in which such paradoxes don't exist. Where everything clearly comes from something and from somewhere and there is nothing unbounded. That is inconceivable and incoherent in this universe and in the reality that we can perceive, so for that reason I conclude that there is a grander multiverse, of whatever nature that we cannot even begin to conceptualize. And so, having concluded that I see no reason why this would ever end. In fact, by definition it cannot end.


8 posted on 03/11/2006 12:44:05 AM PST by AntiGuv
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To: AntiGuv

Thank you so much for your further explanation!


23 posted on 03/11/2006 8:15:06 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: AntiGuv
Excellent observation (and I agree with you for the most part). It's amazing how few people can understand this concept. The universe "began" with the big-bang but so did the time-line. There was no "before".

Interesting theories abound regarding the "end". I will not go into them since this is not the proper forum.

JSL
52 posted on 03/11/2006 9:19:57 AM PST by free_at_jsl.com
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