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Can a devout Muslim be an American patriot and a loyal citizen?
email ^ | March 2006 | email

Posted on 03/14/2006 5:58:55 PM PST by Louisiana

Can a devout Muslim be an American patriot and a loyal citizen?

Consider this:

Theologically, no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon god of Arabia.

Scripturally, no. Because his allegiance is to the five pillars of Islam and the Quran (Koran).

Geographically, no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially, no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically, no. Because he must submit to the mullah (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.

Domestically, no, because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34).

Religiously, no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)

Intellectually, no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically, no, because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co - exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually, no, because when we declare "one nation under God," the Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as our heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran's 99 excellent names.

Therefore after much study and deliberation....perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both good Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish...it's still the truth. If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; musilim; muslims; patriotism
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This was emailed to me. Entire email is entact.

Religion of peace. yep.

1 posted on 03/14/2006 5:58:58 PM PST by Louisiana
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To: Louisiana

I know several very, very patriotic muslims.


2 posted on 03/14/2006 6:00:53 PM PST by pissant
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To: Louisiana
What about the Christians who live in Arabic speaking lands and use Arab language gospels? Who is their God?

You ought to think about this a bit before you start denying Christians their God.

3 posted on 03/14/2006 6:01:50 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: Louisiana

None of this prevents Muslims from being good Democrats.


4 posted on 03/14/2006 6:02:37 PM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: Louisiana

Diatribe against Muslims?


You RACIST! ;o)


(sarc)


5 posted on 03/14/2006 6:03:32 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Religion of Peace or Cult of Death? How much evidence exists for either one?)
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To: pissant
I know several very, very patriotic muslims.

I know several very, very patriotic Americans that I will not trust to leave my wife and children with. Nor will I trust them to cover my back. Your point is?

6 posted on 03/14/2006 6:04:32 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: Louisiana

No, and neither can a present day Democrat/Liberal be.


7 posted on 03/14/2006 6:05:31 PM PST by Solamente
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To: pissant
I know several very, very patriotic muslims.

I do too...to a man, they are intelligent, hardworking, affable, and love the United States. They also happen to be really lousy "Muslims." They never read the Qu'ran. They don't pray to Mecca. They don't go to the mosque. In fact, the only resemblance they have to Muslims is that they are from a particular country. They are Muslims like Ted Kennedy is a Catholic.
8 posted on 03/14/2006 6:06:22 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Louisiana

The lone Jihadist in NC went off simply because he was a good Muslim.


9 posted on 03/14/2006 6:07:35 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

Point is, that many muslims in this country KNOW the USA is the best hope for them, and the only hope to force reform in their homelands.

The Kurds of Seattle dancing in the streets after the fall of Baghdad saying God Bless George Bush are but one example.


10 posted on 03/14/2006 6:08:32 PM PST by pissant
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To: muawiyah

> What about the Christians who live in Arabic speaking lands and use Arab language gospels? Who is their God?

The post is about Muslims, not Arabs.

There are Christian Arabs, but no Christian Muslims.


11 posted on 03/14/2006 6:09:21 PM PST by old-ager
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To: muawiyah

I don't understand your point. I'm not saying that I agree with his, but how is it that Middle Eastern Muslims reading the Koran in Arabic is the same as Middle Eastern Christians reading the Bible in Arabic. They're two different books.


12 posted on 03/14/2006 6:10:19 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: Louisiana

So then, based on these areguments, catholics can not be good americans and patriots?


13 posted on 03/14/2006 6:10:44 PM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty)
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To: Old_Mil
They are practicing Muslims like Ted Kennedy is a practicing Catholic.

Not to pick a nit.

14 posted on 03/14/2006 6:11:44 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: pissant

You can extract precepts of the Christian faith, especially Catholicism, and conclude that adherence to the religion foreclosed patriotism.

It was only in the 1960's that many in the U.S. believed that the Pope was ready to rule America if Kennedy won the election.


15 posted on 03/14/2006 6:11:59 PM PST by DOGEY
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To: Old_Mil
They also happen to be really lousy "Muslims." They never read the Qu'ran.

That's really the point.
It's the Muslims that actually read and believe the Koran
and the Hadiths...
and then "put their faith into action" that are a danger.

Lapsed and/or apostate Muslims are generally not a problem.
Of course, a few of them get killed before they can escape to havens.
Like the USA.
16 posted on 03/14/2006 6:12:38 PM PST by VOA
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To: Old_Mil

Not so for some of the ones I've met. I've never met a more anti-mullah person in my life than 2 Iranians I worked with. And I currently work with a devout Pakistani, who abhores Bin Laden and was very disgusted by the whole BS cartoon protests.


17 posted on 03/14/2006 6:12:54 PM PST by pissant
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To: Louisiana
Therefore after much study and deliberation....perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both good Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish...it's still the truth. If you find yourself intellectually in agreement with the above, perhaps you will share this with your friends. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country.

I wouldn't insult the intelligence of my friends by sending this e-mail to them, and I certainly wouldn't disgrace myself and my family by doing so either. To paint every single Muslim with the same brush is wrong, IMHO.

18 posted on 03/14/2006 6:14:24 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: pissant

I don't.


19 posted on 03/14/2006 6:15:26 PM PST by PokeyJoe
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
I know several very, very patriotic Americans that I will not trust to leave my wife and children with. Nor will I trust them to cover my back. Your point is?

Does that mean because you won't trust "several very, very patriotic Americans", you would then choose to distrust ALL patriotic Americans? Something to think about. :)

20 posted on 03/14/2006 6:17:05 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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