Milwaukee Voter Roll Purge Drops About 105,000 Names (WI)

JSOnline via AP ^ | March 15, 2006 | Staff Writer from AP

[Diana in Wisconsin]

MILWAUKEE, WI (AP) -- The first purge of city voter rolls since at least 2001 resulted in about 105,000 names being dropped, mostly because they were listed at old addresses that were no longer correct, officials said.

The number amounted to about 23 percent of the 450,000 names that were on the voter rolls. Officials had said they weren't sure if the rolls were purged after the 2000 election.

Neil Albrecht, assistant director of the city Election Commission, said the names purged were primarily those of people who had moved.

Inaccuracies in the voter rolls had been cited as one cause of problems experienced in the November 2004 election.

To check the rolls, postcards were sent to people who didn't vote in the last four years. Those receiving the postcards had to respond if they wanted to stay on the rolls.

Albrecht said only about 500 people returned the cards.

The others didn't return the cards, or the cards came back showing the person moved without giving a forwarding address or moved out of the city.

The statewide voter list now being developed will make it easier to update local rolls, because it will automatically remove names of those who move from one city when those voters register somewhere else.

[Courdeleon02]

Newark New Jersey is another city that has over 300,000 names on its voter rolls and has never purged the list. There are only 275,000 people in Newark.This city votes 90% Democrat and the Democrat ward leaders know all the names of the people who have actually left or moved but somehow they always vote. Voter fraud is big time in all New Jersey Urban areas. This is what gives the Democrats their usual 250,000 plus margin over the Republicans year in and year out. Yet no one questions it.

[zeugma]

The following is a perfect description of what happened in the Washington State Gov. Race.

Nolan and Haueter said Downs described three basic tactics:

• "The first rule is, you keep counting until you're ahead. And if that doesn't put you ahead, you recount, re-recount -- you keep counting until you're ahead. If you're behind, then you've got nothing to lose."
• Second, Nolan said, "the more times those ballots are handled, the more chance there is that chads will break loose" and hence disqualify the ballot.
• Third, he said, "the minute you're ahead, you stop and declare yourself the victor."

[Michael.SF.]

Read Bill Sammon's book

Thanks, I'll look it up.

[libstripper]

How can that be? Who the heck "slashed" all the tires, then?

A DemonRat defense team can work wonders with an OJ jury.

[Michael.SF.]

Exactly. It is also what they were trying to do in Florida, but they never got ahead!

[newcthem]

Forget it .......fair and honest elections in Wisconsin will NEVER happen so long as "fair and honest" Doyle has any say in it.

[OldFriend]

At Any Cost was so enraging. Sammon documents what the media did on election night 2000.

His new book Strategery is just as enraging.

[mosquitobite]

If Bush had won Philly it would STILL be ALL we would hear about. *rolls eyes*

[muawiyah]

And it's the same ones over and over and over and over.

I once relocated from one state to another 7 times in one year.

It's a thing you never forget.

[ASA Vet]

And the MLNA's still outnumber filed COA's.

[facedown]

Heck, that's nothing. Chicago has 2,700,000 eligible voters and 4,300,000 registered voters, most of whom are dead.

[wbill]

At one time, I believed that voter fraud more-or-less balanced out. Inasmuch as we dislike admitting it, there are plenty of dishonest and/or stupid Republicans out there, as well (although, not nearly as many as the idiots on DU would like to think, lol).

But, I am truly astounded by your statistics. What I find even more bothersome is that no one in Philly appears to want to do anything about it.

I'd be curious to see stats on other, traditionally liberal urban areas. And, I'd be just as curious to see stats on traditionally conservative urban areas (Texas, maybe? I imagine that there aren't many....)

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Don't forget...we also had "The Milwaukee Five" the Dems that slashed the tires of GOP vans waiting to take voters to the polls this last Election Day.

They got off with plea deals, and slaps on the wrists for doing it, too. One of the five was the son of Rep. Gwen Moore (D, WI) *Rolleyes*

[Diana in Wisconsin]

I added you and the others to our Wisconsin Conservative Politics Ping List. :) The only duplicate I had was LouD.

Julietta Henry? Don't know what ever happened to her...

http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/nov04/276184.asp

[Diana in Wisconsin]

"...so long as 'fair and honest' Doyle has any say in it."

Didn't you get my memo? I'm firing him on November 3rd, 2006. I'd like Walker for Governor, but will settle for Green. :)

[kabar]

At one time, I believed that voter fraud more-or-less balanced out. Inasmuch as we dislike admitting it, there are plenty of dishonest and/or stupid Republicans out there, as well (although, not nearly as many as the idiots on DU would like to think, lol).

I don't buy that everyone does it BS. By far, most voter fraud occurs in the major cities and they are controlled by the Dems and have been historically. Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall in NYC, the Daley Machine in Chicago, Frank Hauge in Jersey City, the Pendergast machine in Kansas City, etc. The Dems are engaged in much more voter fraud than the Reps.

I'd be curious to see stats on other, traditionally liberal urban areas. And, I'd be just as curious to see stats on traditionally conservative urban areas (Texas, maybe? I imagine that there aren't many....)

Detroit swings elections in Michigan, LA and SF in California, Hudson County in New Jersey, NYC in NY, Chicago in Illinois, and the list goes on and on. There really is no major city that is not controlled by the Dems. Even in Texas, the major cities vote Democratic or nearly split. Given the fact that African-Americans vote 90% democratic, it is very difficult for Reps to win majorities in major cities.

[Timeout]

No, Lisa Artisan...the woman who "greased" the election during her overnight stay at city hall on election night.

She had to resign over the mess. I was just wondering what happened to her. I searched the JS but found nothing since she resigned.

How much ya wanna bet she's back on the donkeys' payroll somewhere?!

[W. W. SMITH]

To check the rolls, postcards were sent to people who didn't vote in the last four years. Those receiving the postcards had to respond if they wanted to stay on the rolls.


Now send postcards to those that supposedly voted. I wonder how many of them come back?

[mewzilla]

Wow.

[Dustoff45]

And the MLNA's still outnumber filed COA's.

Folks - this is postal talk -

MLNA = Moved, Left No (forwarding) Address

COA = Change Of Address

Back in the old days - Postal Cards were not returnable unless the sender guaranteed return postage. That is one reason they were cheaper to send; no further obligation. But in practice many were returned. I could not find current policy. Maybe a Postal Freeper out there could chime in.

My point is to use the Postal Service as a mechanism to clean up your voter rolls begs for a lot of help. The mailman in the inner city is just going to put the mail with the address into the box at the delivery point. Keeping up with the current resident was the gift of a regular carrier, but the part-time folks could hardly know or keep up. So, if in doubt, and with no record of forwarding on file, put it into the box at the delivery point. Not a great way to determine if a voter still exists. Other points of distinction on postal policy -

Priority / First-Class is forwarded for 12 months, at no charge, as long as the sender did not place a non-forwarding endorsement on the mailpiece.

During months 13-18 the mail is returned to sender with the new address.

This information is retained for only 18 months. After 18 months, all address data is purged from our computers and the mail is simply returned to the sender endorsed “Forwarding Order Expired”. [www.usps.com]