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1 posted on 03/15/2006 10:37:04 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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"Guest worker" is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. When I have guests, they do not work!


2 posted on 03/15/2006 10:38:31 AM PST by msnimje (SAMMY for SANDY --- THAT IS WHAT I CALL A GOOD TRADE!!!)
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Republicans with reservations about a guest worker program also urged the Senate to go slow on what could be the most important bill that Congress deals with this year. "Nobody in the country trusts us on this issue right now because we have not demonstrated the integrity to control our borders," said Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla.

Absolutely. And yet, I was told that there was no one working on an immigration bill because it was not a big deal to the American public. I see I was told wrong.

Now, will this bill be all things to all people, probably not, but it is a start and belive me when I say it is going to be a hot political issue in the upcoming elections.

3 posted on 03/15/2006 10:41:51 AM PST by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats....by Dr. Thomas Sowell)
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I wish they would get the issues they do agree on passed then add amendments later if they need like just getting the borders sealed as the first step.


5 posted on 03/15/2006 10:45:25 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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Why does the US need guest workers when we already have millions of people out of work, many being supported by welfare?

To take just a small instance, don't any of those refugees from NOLA who lost their homes and jobs want work?

The unemployment figures are not reliable, because they eliminate anyone who has been jobless for more than a period of months and is not actively in the job market.


7 posted on 03/15/2006 10:45:55 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Senators Coburn and Sessions have it right.


8 posted on 03/15/2006 10:46:38 AM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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Hey, Senators! Listen up!

A guest worker program is the worst policy ever proposed in Congress! If you vote for this program three things are going to happen: (1) Our borders are going to be swarmed over by illegals and our hospitals and social services will overwhelmed; (2) Our national security will be weakened during a time of war against terrorism; and (3) A HUGE taxpayer revolt will occur and you will be ridden out of D.C. on a rail, right after you have been voted out of office, tarred and feathered.

9 posted on 03/15/2006 10:46:42 AM PST by ex-Texan (Matthew 7:1 through 6)
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"We should do a good enforcement bill and leave the administration to execute it, then in the meantime, talk seriously about what we want to do about the future," Sessions said.

This is the only responsible solution at this time.

Until better enforcement is exercised, no one is willing to consider amnesty or a "Guest worker program". They haven't earned the right to such a proposal yet. Though I would accept cleaning up the application for VISA's and citizenship. It's entirely too convoluted as it is.

However, I really favor Congress just staying away from the issue. They'll screw it up. I'd rather individual states pressured by their peoples force action. More likely to get it right with in state politicians held to account, then hope to influence D.C. politicians to do what is right.

10 posted on 03/15/2006 10:48:22 AM PST by Soul Seeker (House Republicans Send a message: All Arabs are Genetically pre-disposed to terrorism)
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A bill drafted by Sens. John Cornyn, R-Texas, and Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., gives illegal immigrants up to five years to leave the country. But they would have to leave and apply from their home country to return, either as temporary workers or for permanent residency.

Naturally, there's no teeth in the bill that will enforce this provision, but I hardly think that this is an oversight on the part of the bill's authors.

Dane, You're a big fan of this bill, so perhaps you can answer this question:

What will be done to enforce this proposed law when these Mexican illegal aliens refuse to go home after the five-year grace period has expired.

14 posted on 03/15/2006 10:52:05 AM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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Ping!


15 posted on 03/15/2006 10:59:52 AM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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A Time poll in January found that 73 percent of Americans favor a guest worker program for illegal immigrants, but 46 percent said they should have to return first to their native country and apply for it.

Ah, ahh, ahhh...Bullsh^t! Pardon me, blatent lying makes me sneeze. Check out the results from one Representative's ongoing query

Tancredo: I keep asking every senator I happen to come across: "How many people do you have writing you, calling you, faxing you, emailing you, demanding a guest-worker/amnesty program, especially legal residents of the country?"

Human Events Editor: What do they say?

Tancredo: Well, none. Nobody has anybody. That’s not the issue and everybody knows it.

16 posted on 03/15/2006 11:04:21 AM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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Sen. Lindsey Graham (news, bio, voting record), R-S.C., who supports the McCain-Kennedy approach, argued that lawmakers can't ignore the 11 million undocumented workers in the country.

Amazing that most of these people are soooooooo confused over what to do with the illegals already here. If they actually listened to the voters that put them in office they would know that the majority of Americans want illegals.............booted out of the country!

idiots, every single one of them


20 posted on 03/15/2006 11:23:13 AM PST by sheana
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"Nobody in the country trusts us on this issue right now because we have not demonstrated the integrity to control our borders," said Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla.

Truer words have never been spoken by a politician. A pox be upon the house of both political parties until our borders are secured and protected. - OB1

21 posted on 03/15/2006 11:26:33 AM PST by OB1kNOb (America is the land of the free BECAUSE of the BRAVE !!)
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"Amnesty to me is not what we are talking about," Graham said. "If I had to pay a $2,000 fine and wait 11 years before I could apply for citizenship I wouldn't think I'd been given amnesty."

Is this faygala so stupid? This prissy boy fails to appreciate that when one comes from an impoverished 3rd world nation citizenship is irrelevant. Legal residency is of paramount importance where he can get a valid driver's license and be covered by labor laws. Can also bring mamacita y todos los hijos to the United States and put them in US schools. Will the USA give the family some kind of national health insurance?

And as Pricilla admits, the guest worker can apply for citizenship after 12 years. Once he gets citizenship he can sponsor numerous relatives for immigration

23 posted on 03/15/2006 11:32:08 AM PST by dennisw (-Muslim's biggest enemy is the founder of Islam, Muhammad. Muslims are victims of this evil conman-)
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I thought this was Bush's fault, why is everyone screaming at congress.


26 posted on 03/15/2006 11:39:09 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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Sen. Lindsey Graham..., R-S.C., who supports the McCain-Kennedy approach, argued that lawmakers can't ignore the 11 million undocumented workers in the country. They've been ignoring the 11 million illegal aliens for years.
29 posted on 03/15/2006 11:53:29 AM PST by HoosierHawk
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Translation: They're busy divvying up the pro-illegal worker votes to the Senators who are safe from any election challenge.


30 posted on 03/15/2006 11:55:25 AM PST by Wolfie
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Now, I realize you Senators are sold out to Business special interests at the expense of the American worker, but before y'all pass that amnesty bill that Jorge is hoping for, remember that you can be fired. Too many of you THIS YEAR in fact.


31 posted on 03/15/2006 12:08:22 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Religion of Peace or Cult of Death? How much evidence exists for either one?)
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If they are dead set on passing a Guest Worker bill, then make it just that, a plan for temporary workers. Let them work, but no free access to healthcare or education or any other benefits that should only go to citizens. Also no families coming in where the babies would then be declared citizens.


34 posted on 03/15/2006 12:26:03 PM PST by DeweyCA
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President Bush can raise his poll numbers by dropping the phrases, "Guest Worker" and "Religion of Peace" from his vocabulary, He can raise the numbers quicker by pointing out he has done so.

IT could happen, that he comes to his senses.


36 posted on 03/15/2006 12:50:07 PM PST by rock58seg (Republicans on ports,As funny as Democrats pretending to know about Natl Security and quail hunting.)
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Please call them INVADERS!


President Bush has been great on most things except for our border.
He has been great on the war on terrorists.
But on the border he is a gross failure.
He acted fast and correct on the 3,000+ people murdered at the world trade center.
He ignores the many rapes, murders and robberies which might be larger than the murders and money loss at the world trade center.
More Americans are abducted on the border of Mexico than in Iraq!

Start building the fence.

It should be made a felony for Criminals who overstay their visas and Invaders.

I believe we should give amnesty to these poor CRIMINALS or INVADERS.
This should be a 2 week amnesty to get the heck out of our Country.
The ones who ignore this amnesty should be buried in a tent city jail and fined $10,000 or buried elsewhere.
All aiders and abettors of these CRIMINALS or INVADERS should get 1 year in a tent city jail and a $10,000 fine for each CRIMINAL aided.
Those in government should be the first ones charged.


37 posted on 03/15/2006 12:52:59 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the rear, or a Fool from any side.”)
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