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Buchananite Protectionists would urinate in the loan officers coffee cup while trying to get a loan.

I'm not a "globalist," but I know some.


1 posted on 03/16/2006 5:02:29 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Hey Vic, it also pointed out the gaping holes in our national security umbrella. Would we have let anyone control our ports during WW II? If not, then why now when we have a global war on terror?


2 posted on 03/16/2006 5:06:00 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: MikefromOhio; onyx

ping


3 posted on 03/16/2006 5:06:01 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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The resulting singular affluence of the American consumer derives from just these trade-offs in our autonomy --

Which begs the question: "What else will we "trade off"?

If we start down the road of depending on foreign sources for much of our food supplies, as we now depend on foreign sources for much of our oil supplies, when will we start depending on foreign sources for much of our laws as well?

5 posted on 03/16/2006 5:14:27 AM PST by Noachian (To control the courts the people must first control their Congress.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
"Soon we will import more food than we grow. We already burn more oil than we pump. For years we have bought more than we export, and we borrow far more than we lend. To justify these precarious dependencies, America assures foreign business leaders, investors and lenders that our markets remain open and immune to the distortions of xenophobia and provincialism."

Can you tell me what this has to do with national security? Importing things has nothing to do with allowing Islamic nations to control our points of entry. This is the same kind of goofy argument we had on the Meirs nomination. Name calling is always easier than confronting a problem.

6 posted on 03/16/2006 5:15:50 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Dubai is a Westernizing state that long ago left the eighth century and accepts the modern world of globalized commerce and finance. This member of the United Arab Emirates has -- especially after Sept. 11 -- passed on intelligence, hosted our fleet and provided a foothold in the gulf near Iraq and Iran.

This is such a tough call to me because Dubai is everything Hanson has said and more. Having been there three times, I can tell you that Dubai is nothing like people would expect. It is a beautiful, modern, liberal cosmopolitan city. I have fond, fond memories of the place and would recommend a visit to Dubai to anyone who wants to enjoy a great time. I hope dearly that the Pentagon can smooth over this ugly event and American servicemen and women can contiune to enjoy liberty in Dubai --which is a little bit of paradise for those of us who find ourselves in the Middle East.

That being said, I just can't come to terms with a Muslim entity controlling our ports.

15 posted on 03/16/2006 5:33:29 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
the Dubai port deal shows how at odds are American perceptions and reality.

The drumbeat in the media and from many uninformed (or lying) politicians referred to "owning the ports." The reality was owning the right to lease some terminals and run the loading and unloading operations there. Too bad we Americans can't at least debate issues based on facts.

20 posted on 03/16/2006 5:39:28 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Slap, slap, slap.....

Take that FReepers.


29 posted on 03/16/2006 5:54:11 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Dubai is a Westernizing state that long ago left the eighth century and accepts the modern world of globalized commerce and finance.

No it isn't.
Dubai is merely a luxurious little country-club community for the OPEC princelings.
The LAST thing in the world these pissant little oligarchs want is a government that resembles democracy.

Politics and Strategy After the Dubai Ports Case

34 posted on 03/16/2006 6:02:33 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: stand4somethin; TheLion; Rockitz; 1035rep; AmeriBrit; Tolik; maica; Valin

ping


52 posted on 03/16/2006 7:52:47 AM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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At the risk of repeating my post from the other posting of this article....

Nice piece, but beyond the playing nice with a loyal Arab nation he missed this important nuance.

The president has to walk a narrow line between 1) convincing the Muslim world that this is a War on Terror as opposed to a War on Islam and 2) maintaining national security. On this issue he was really in a Catch-22, since he really couldn't explain this logic publicly for fear of showing his hand to the Muslim world- This ultimately is a War on Islam.

The west cannot afford to fight 1.2 billion Muslims now, so the best hope is to "divide and conquer" ala Julius Caesar vs. the Celts in the 1st century BC and many others since then. To that end, the president is currently going after the more radical elements of Islam (terrorists) with the WOT with the hope of westernizing future generations of Muslims given the time and access to do so. In the mean time he tries to encourage the more moderate Islamic nations (like UAE) and treating them fairly in trade is one way to do that.

This strategy is truly our only hope unless we're prepared to engage in mass genocide. You have undoubtedly noted how easy it is to rally the relatively uneducated Muslim masses into a violent frenzy over the silly cartoon issue and I expect they would do far worse if they knew the west were engaged in a War on Islam. The Muslim culture is not easily assimilated into a western society, so this will be a supremely difficult challenge. If we can't figure out how to do it, we're doomed to death by submission, dhimmitude (as we're seeing indications of in Europe), or a lot of innocent blood on our hands.

Finally, the RATS saw an opportunity to play political chicken with an issue prior to the midterm election and got most pubbies to play along. As this blog points out "Follow the money and you'll find the truth." Click here!

67 posted on 03/16/2006 9:02:17 AM PST by Rockitz (Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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We do not trust the MSM on the majority of their reports, yet conservative bought this one, hook, line and sinker. They were against it simply because the President was for it. They started their propaganda with misinformation, half truths, and blatant lies and far too many bought in.

Hell, many HERE still refer to the issue as "handing the arabs the "port" security, when it was never ports nor security!

73 posted on 03/16/2006 9:45:55 AM PST by SouthTexas (Hillary supported! UAE defeated! Thanks guys.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Good post, No. 4. I suppose now we'll be treated to attacks on VDH.


106 posted on 03/16/2006 12:16:26 PM PST by colorado tanker (We need more "chicken-bleep Democrats" in the Senate!)
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"In retrospect, America went collectively insane

We should go collectively insane about something much more important....closing our southern border.

118 posted on 03/16/2006 1:27:24 PM PST by TheLion
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To: onyx
Dubai threatened over cooperation with West
122 posted on 03/16/2006 2:10:02 PM PST by Cannoneer No. 4 (Our enemies act on ecstatic revelations from their god. We act on the advice of lawyers.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4


Good grief! I missed your ping to this one!
Let me read this NOW!


124 posted on 03/16/2006 2:12:08 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
I was on the "bad guys" side, and still am. I do not like foreign investment of anykind, and this one was stopped... ...it's like the end justifies the means.

Folks talk about needing foreign investment. I'll take the heat, and others will as well for our view. But I am looking at why we need that foreign investment. Could this be a case of the means justifies the end??

125 posted on 03/16/2006 2:17:46 PM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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