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RFID: Europe Wants to Tag You
Brussels Journal ^ | 2006-03-12 | Elaib Harvey

Posted on 03/20/2006 9:36:15 AM PST by robowombat

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1 posted on 03/20/2006 9:36:17 AM PST by robowombat
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To: robowombat

Controlling people...is what the new world odor is all about.


2 posted on 03/20/2006 9:48:35 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister..but we knew just what to do...we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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Now, now... Our dear leftist friends would never electronically brand people like cattle so they could effectively monitor them and, if need be, exterminate them.

Oh, no. They would never, ever do such a thing. And the fact that they have nothing at all to say about Stalin or Mao? Don't bother yourself about that. The leftist swine are always fat moralists.

3 posted on 03/20/2006 9:53:38 AM PST by Reactionary (The Moonbats Need an Enema)
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To: Reactionary

Just remember it goes in steps: it's the "undesirables" who will be the first ones tagged.


4 posted on 03/20/2006 9:58:55 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Libs: Celebrate MY diversity! | Iran Azadi 2006)
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To: robowombat

PARANOID ALERT!

"Controlling people...is what the new world odor is all about."

Au contraire: controlling people who "have something to hide" is what it's all about...criminals.

The old adage: "the guilty dog barks first" applies here.

Of course paranod schizophrenics and manic depressives won't like this new "wrinkle on crime control" either, in as much as, they see spies hiding in breakfast cereal.

Law abiding citizens will welcome these measures which ultimately reduce crime and the costs that are usually passed on to them through higher prices which account for the "shrinkage" due from criminals and crime.

Technology marches on. And so do you Mr. Theif. Right on to prison for your dishonesty.


5 posted on 03/20/2006 10:15:31 AM PST by CBart95
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JACKASS ALERT!

"Au contraire: controlling people who "have something to hide" is what it's all about...criminals"


My position is that you may not be a criminal today but you will surely be one tomorrow as soon as we detect you doing something that we don't like. And, we have this handy technology to track you with when you do it.

"see spies hiding in breakfast cereal."

We see news articles describing new technology that offers wonderful opportunities to turn us all into something similiar to an individual in a beehive: Monitored 24/7 on the street and in the home.


6 posted on 03/20/2006 10:23:39 AM PST by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: CBart95
Of course paranod schizophrenics and manic depressives won't like this new "wrinkle on crime control"

Neither will people that love freedom and privacy.

7 posted on 03/20/2006 10:33:07 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Islam's true face: http://makeashorterlink.com/?J169127BC)
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To: robowombat
if the trend follows the UK will be the first to find all kinds of onerous ways to start using this data in civil and criminal enforcement issues. secure beneath the watchful eyes and the trackable tags indeed.


8 posted on 03/20/2006 10:46:41 AM PST by WoofDog123
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You are quite right. Be prepared for the evolution of the Borg party and their schemes for this technology.


9 posted on 03/20/2006 10:48:09 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: CBart95

actually compiling data on private citizens movements and activities which will never be destroyed and can be trotted out or used covertly at ANY TIME IN THE REST OF THAT PERSON'S LIFE should raise eyebrows. Just the mere awareness that such data exists and is being compiled will affect how some people engage in lawful activities they would rather keep private - yes, even law-abiding citizens sometimes desire privacy, including from the loving arms of the State.

There is a group that takes the attitude that privacy isn't important and it is ok for fedgov to know everywhere you went, everything you did, bought, etc., for the last 20 years, but they are a minority.


10 posted on 03/20/2006 10:50:24 AM PST by WoofDog123
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To: CBart95
"Law abiding citizens will welcome these measures which ultimately reduce crime and the costs that are usually passed on to them through higher prices which account for the "shrinkage" due from criminals and crime."

You make law abiding cattle sound almost appealing.

11 posted on 03/20/2006 2:34:22 PM PST by Reactionary (The Moonbats Need an Enema)
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Yeah?

They are still referred to as citizens in this United States.

...with all the rights ,privileges and freedoms thereto pertaining. They obey the law, pursue life ,liberty happiness and self actualization and lives without fear.

It's so great a way of living that they frequently, lay their own lives on the line to voluntarily defend it.

These wonderful people make great neighbors and absolutely fearsome enemies.

They are occasionally slow to make big decisions but easily recognize that the cost of freedom is eternal vigilence.


12 posted on 03/20/2006 2:58:27 PM PST by CBart95
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To: Reactionary
Now, now... Our dear leftist friends would never electronically brand people like cattle so they could effectively monitor them and, if need be,

It is the corporatist fascists that will enable them.
13 posted on 03/20/2006 3:50:25 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: CBart95
Law abiding citizens will welcome these measures ...

Speak for yourself.

You must be one of those sheep who believe in the adage "If you're not guilty, then you should have nothing to hide."

Those are the words of tyrants.

I will live my life by Franklin's words : "Those who give up essential liberties for security deserve neither".

14 posted on 03/23/2006 2:56:53 AM PST by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: robowombat

bookmark


15 posted on 03/23/2006 2:58:35 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta
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"At one recent Tesco trial the tags embedded in the packaging of Gillette M3 razors activated cameras that photographed the customer at the shelf and again at the checkout."

www.boycottgillette.com

16 posted on 03/23/2006 3:10:10 AM PST by endthematrix (None dare call it ISLAMOFACISM!)
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To: robowombat

What we really need is for every gun every made, including matchlocks, to have a government controlled chip installed in it so that they can determine when it will fire or not. Then we'd be crime free, right? Right?


17 posted on 03/23/2006 3:12:01 AM PST by Hardastarboard (HEY - Billy Joe! You ARE an American Idiot!)
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To: endthematrix
Nice link and food for thought.

OK, here's my first feeble thought: Pick up a Gillette product, the RFD snaps your picture. You move to another aisle and ditch the razor blades in the soup section and proceed to the checkout. The checkout RFDs sense a theft has occurred and alarms sound resulting in your detention for shoplifting. You refuse to submit to a search until police are present.

When nothing is found you institute a huge lawsuit, win handily and live happily (and richly) ever after.

18 posted on 03/23/2006 3:32:40 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: ActionNewsBill

All your "rational lying' to the contrary Bill,the subject came up as it applied to security. ( I seem to recall)

It may be amazing news to you Bill, but we are at war, and are using all reasonable and lawful measures to detect our enemies activities before they annihilate our innocent ,non-combattant citizens any more than they already have.

Enemy sympathizers like you hate our country and seek to accuse our country of "illegal measures " to defend our freedoms.

We see right through your BS Bill and suggest you go do something indecent in your hat.

PS which Franklin are you misquoting? Aretha? or Who?


19 posted on 03/23/2006 2:25:56 PM PST by CBart95
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All your "rational lying' to the contrary...

Perhaps you could point out where I lied. I stand by every word I posted.

It may be amazing news to you Bill, but we are at war, and are using all reasonable and lawful measures to detect our enemies activities before they annihilate our innocent ,non-combattant citizens any more than they already have.

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."

William Pitt

You may be willing to give up your freedoms, but please do not presume to speak for anyone else here on this forum, or give away the freedoms of the rest of us..

Enemy sympathizers like you hate our country and seek to accuse our country of "illegal measures " to defend our freedoms.

So I am an "enemy sympathizer" because I support the the animating contest of freedom rather than the tranquility of servitude?

I guess that's a variation on the blatant lie "If you're not with us, you're with the terrorists".

"Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."

We see right through your BS Bill...

Seems to me that you and your sheep-like, anti-American views are in the minority here, sparky.

... and suggest you go do something indecent in your hat.

Well. I'm not quite sure what that means, but good luck with that.

Get that chip, dude, it's the only thing that will save you .


20 posted on 03/23/2006 4:13:21 PM PST by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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