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Stung by Ingraham, NBC Claims Its Iraq Coverage. . . Not Negative Enough!
Today Show/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 03/22/2006 5:24:01 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: governsleastgovernsbest

In the past 5 months, I have talked to 4 local reservists who each returned from Iraq assignments that lasted more than a year.

If it isn't the first sentence they volunteer, it is in their second: They say that what you see on TV is not at all the way it is Iraq. And they say that it is much more POSITIVE than portrayed.

This is why the MSM has such a credibility issue. When do you see any stories about returning service members? Usually only if they are in the minority voicing opposition, or if they have returned with a major injury. Only the local media outlets cover the reports from our friends and neighbors who give first-hand accounts of what is really being accomplished.

As far as David Engel, it seems like if he went to a road-building site or new school or hospital, his chances of needing his flak jacket and helmet would be greating reduced. But, they're not doing that kind of story in New Orleans, either. So why should we be surprised?


21 posted on 03/22/2006 5:48:43 AM PST by leftcoaster
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To: goodform
One of the shows today said they had an Iraqi whom they interviewed "three years ago" (but wouldn't show his face) who said that three years ago he was "optimistic" but now he is very pessimistic.

Again, they wouldn't show his face. Seems odd, if he's "pessimistic," because why would terrorists target someone who was spouting their line?

22 posted on 03/22/2006 5:51:16 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I noticed how Senator Salazar's positive comments yesterday in Iraq have never found their way into MSM articles this morning. Only Levin's negativity is fed to the sheeple.

Last night on Hardbowel, Matthews referred to Bush's press conference as more “ ...blaming the press.”

23 posted on 03/22/2006 5:55:58 AM PST by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

In the early days of the troops in Bagdad, one of the big hotels was attacked. IIRC NBC's Richard Engel was the reporter who sent his driver downstairs (where the action was) to get the news reports. Engel stayed upstairs (safety) and made his broadcasts from there.

There were FR threads about it when it was revealed. Engel may have been employed by CNN at the time. IIRC, he changed employers a couple of years ago.

That was about the time he was annointed with the nomenclature: Chicken Richard.


24 posted on 03/22/2006 5:57:42 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: MEG33

General Electric should be kicked off every government bid list.


25 posted on 03/22/2006 5:59:13 AM PST by McGavin999 (The US media is afflicted with Attention Deficit Disorder)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
When Gregory asked "is security the overall story?" Engel replied: "Most Iraqis I speak to say most reporters get it wrong. The situation on the ground is worse than the images we project on television."

This strikes me as similar to Pauline Kael's "No one I know voted for Nixon."

Obviously, he is so isolated, he cant see reality.

26 posted on 03/22/2006 6:00:35 AM PST by Rich_E
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To: joesbucks

"Laura's comment was a straw man argument."

Of COURSE it was. Laura was only out the field for
a week with the troops. How would she know what the
dying mainstream media is doing? It certainly is
a straw man argument to point out that NBC et al's
reporters are reporting from their hotel rooms and
the bars where the latest explosion is.

You, sir, are an ass.


27 posted on 03/22/2006 6:03:13 AM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: MEG33
>>>Tim Russert forgets what the estimates for deaths were for the initial invasion...He said he could not find one person who expected we would have had 2000 lost.<<<

--For everything (Iraq Wars I & II, Katrina, Trade Center) the initial or predicted deaths by the MSM is always 10,000 (body bags). I do not know the significance of that number, but it is always used by the whiners on the left
28 posted on 03/22/2006 6:07:20 AM PST by Shqipo (2006 is Bush Country!)
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To: joesbucks
There are only a few provinces that are dangerous and violent right now. The vast majority of the country is peaceful and starting to recover from Saddam and the war. The problem is the MSM stays where the action is. Their ratings would be in the toilet if they led each newscast with an economic analysis of household income of Kurds or increases in nationwide megawatt output. 'If it bleeds it leads' is the line they like to use... to deny this is to deny reality.
29 posted on 03/22/2006 6:08:29 AM PST by mrexitement (There's the right way, the wrong way, and my way. My way is also wrong but it's faster.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Maybe if just once, when the MSM is caught red-handed reporting something wrong/lying/being biased, they would just own up to it and take their licks, then viewers would have a bit of respect for them and their ratings wouldn't be hemhorraging.


30 posted on 03/22/2006 6:10:19 AM PST by uncitizen
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
He kicked things off asking "is the U.S. media focusing too much on the negative and ignoring the positive stories in Iraq?"

I noticed that Lou Dobbs/CNN did the same thing yesterday when they were discussing the Presidents comments at the presser

As for Engel ... many of us still remember the Baghdad Webcam back when the war first started .. and how Engel had to call into NBC NY Headquarters to get the latest news so he could report during the evening news

31 posted on 03/22/2006 6:11:03 AM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: joesbucks

I support Bush and the war in Iraq, even while acknowleging there were mistakes (show me a war where everything worked according to plan). You say I want to see flowers blooming everyday, that's absolute BS. I just want the full picture. Can you find one story of progress that makes the front page? There has to be at least one hero in the war...they can't be all torturing and murdering innocent women and children can they?


32 posted on 03/22/2006 6:11:40 AM PST by soloNYer
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Gregory probably had his mind preoccupied with dreams about having an affair with Bill Clinton.
33 posted on 03/22/2006 6:13:48 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: righttackle44
You, sir, are an ass.

Thank you for your kind and well thought out response. So 61 journalists killed since the invasion took place means they are reporting from their balconies? I can't find a figure on those injured.

34 posted on 03/22/2006 6:14:29 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

When you'd like a terrorist to shoot accurately, they whiz them over his head!


35 posted on 03/22/2006 6:15:28 AM PST by Doc Savage (Of all these things you can be sure, only love...will endure.......................)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Just that they would use that Gregory character is enough to show me that they are determined to shove their ideas down our throats. Like it or not.

They WILL RULE. (Ya ha ha.)(sarcasm)

[Now, I have to go vomit. You have a strong stomach governsleastgovernsbest.]

36 posted on 03/22/2006 6:16:15 AM PST by AmericaUnite
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To: mrexitement
'If it bleeds it leads' is the line they like to use... to deny this is to deny reality.

I don't deny this. I know this too well. But even the so called conservative press still talks about the dangers and problems of the area. Britt Hume, while downplaying all the gloom and doom will still state Iraq is not peaceful and clearly very dangerous.

37 posted on 03/22/2006 6:17:01 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: maggief

Soldier: Small act of heroism. Engle: Large act of cowardice and treason!


38 posted on 03/22/2006 6:17:19 AM PST by Doc Savage (Of all these things you can be sure, only love...will endure.......................)
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To: joesbucks
Many of the reporters were meeting the insurgents (terrorists) for stories. Boo Hoo!
39 posted on 03/22/2006 6:17:50 AM PST by AmericaUnite
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To: Mad Dawgg; governsleastgovernsbest
NBC .........."Nothing But Crap" ---

****

Along those lines:

CBS ........... "SeeBS"

40 posted on 03/22/2006 6:21:36 AM PST by beyond the sea (The definition of a 'Targeted Tax Cut' is ........................ you ain't gettin' it)
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