> Definately not.
Errr.... history begs to differ.
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Posted on 03/22/2006 7:43:32 AM PST by freedom44
ROME (AFP) - The World Cup in Germany is set to become a battleground between facists and Muslims, an Italian member of a new European neo-Nazi movement warned.
In a statement published by Italian daily Repubblica, the memeber of AS Roma's notorious ultras hooligan group claims neo-Nazis across Europe met in Braunau in Austria to plan attacks against supporters from Islamic countries during the World Cup in Germany from June 9 to July 9.
"We are united. For the first time we are talking and planning together, with the English, the Germans, the Dutch, the Spanish, everyone with the same objective. At the World Cup there will be a massacre," said the Italian ultra.
"We will all be in Germany and there will be Turks, Algerians and Tunisians. The Turks, we can't stand them. In our country (Italy) there are not many, but in Germany, there are many of those guys there. They are Islamic terrorists.
"We will attack them. They are all enemies that need to be eliminated, just like the police. If we make the Roman greeting (the fascist salute) they put us in prison. We will be tens of thousands. Nothing but the English are feared."
He liked the "strong ways" of the islamic faith!
His advisor was the mufti of Jerusalem and that mufti helped ans suported hitler in his plans to kill Jews.
Hitler wanted the Arabs to run the Middle East for him as his representatives. Arab muslims still admire hitler as do Bosnians and ALbanian muslims. Those folks still do the stiff arm salutes!! Check out pics of the palestinians on parade sometime. They goose step and salute like nazis.
It sounds like Europe has opened one eye at least. Heres hoping they open both.
I'll go with "A". We have an established track record at being able to defeat regular European fascism.
People like Clooney, Penn, etc ARE the real threat.
The enemies of our nations have them as their sympathetic "friends" and they, unfortunately, have a bit of influence with some of the braindead of this country.
The best I can offer is that I'm torn on the issue.
But...why? They have so much in common...idealogically speaking.
You: I'll go with "A". We have an established track record at being able to defeat regular European fascism.
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Exactly, and a newer model would likely not be expansionist in the 20th Century mode.
"It's refreshing to see someone recognize the dangers of Islam ... but is this the answer we are looking for?"
As long as they go after the Communists when they are done with the Muzzies.
We all are to some degree. For me, it's the fact the a psycho group like neo-nazi's are the ones doing what we need to be doing. No, maybe we should not go insane and start killing every muslim we see, but we do KNOW who the dangerous ones are in this country and we should get rid of them ... on way or the other. Screw this whole PC crud and "they have rights" BS. We are at war and we will lose or be badly hurt if we don't do something really quick.
And then who will run the democratic party, huh? =)
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Wow. You know six of them! I guess we'll forget all about March 2003 and take you word for the character of all turks based on that deep research.
Oh, by the way Rev...you do know that you could not bring one of your bibles to turkey, or try to open a church there or even meet with more than three other Christians, don't you? All of those things are against the law there.
please, please send Bryan Cumball to cover it
hmm...I know have an interest in the World Cup.
Although Hitler had some muslim SS-brigades (more for propaganda than for serious warfare) there was never ever big sympathy for Arabs in the nazi movement. Just read the bible. The story starts with Ham and Sem, the sons of Noah. Since Ham as the ancestor of the Arabs was a brother of Sem, the ancestor of the Jews, all people from North Africa were somehow jews to the nazi leaders that have (in their way of thinking) to be exterminated. They were so called "Untermenschen" (subhumans) to those racists. The "worth" of a person was soley defined over his racial origin. The friendly attitude to some Mullahs and Muftis was just cheap lip service to get their support against the allies.
Therefore the connection between Arabs and nazis doesn't exist. Religious matters did not play any role in real nazism. It was also simply lip-service of the leaders since the churches had big influence in Germany of the 20ties and 30ties. Christendom and Islam was just a joke to the leading nazis (some inferiors tried to connect Christianity with nazism, but they never had much influence in the "movement"). Therefore Islam was (and is) a ethnic peculiarity to real nazis just like we see some nature religions as interesting from a ethnic point of view.
Some people try to construct a close interrelation between nazism and islam for political reasons. This is complete BS and not very intelligent propaganda.
> Definately not.
Errr.... history begs to differ.
Take a look at my #75
Take a look at my #75
As long as the political elites of Europe refuse to engage with the Islamic problem then this sort of thuggery will break out.
Europeans and British people see the evils of Islam and some of them are all-too-willing to go outside the law and do something violent about it. This is exacerbated by the law being enforced in a one-sided fashion: walking about with a "Europe, we will destroy you" sign won't get you arrested, but just try telling a policeman his horse looks gay...
I bet that hits on anarchist build-your-own-bomb websites went up a hundred-fold after 7/7 (not so much after 9/11 - in the US people can simply buy guns, and promptly did so. Disarmed societies prepare for war much more covertly). I'm sure that there has been a corresponding rise in the European animus against Islam that would suprise the out-of-touch socialist rulers of Europe.
"And then who will run the democratic party, huh? =)"
Democrats!
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