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Jennifer doesn't loven President Bush. This is being pushed as a NEWS article folks. Just unbelievable. What politician doesn't use rhetoric?

Clinton always used "...reasonable people (would agree, would have to agree, agree, say)...."

Never once did AP write a story about this.

1 posted on 03/22/2006 10:44:09 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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It's such a phenomenal hole in the national debate that you can have arguments with nonexistent people

Because whenever the president names his critics, the following media story is how "the president is attacking his critics--this from a man who promised to change the tone in Washington." The guy can't win and the media can go to hell.

33 posted on 03/22/2006 12:27:58 PM PST by rabidralph (We don't need no fancy book learnin,' now, get off the property!)
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I guess Jennie lives in a bubble if she isn't aware of how many people/entities fall into the category of "some" as the Prez talked. For every claim he made, I'd wager a month's pay that anyone with 10 minutes and a decent internet connection could find a hadful of examples with the sources of who made the statements or insinuated the opinions to each of them.


36 posted on 03/22/2006 12:44:39 PM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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Unmanly Men Fear Bush

And women who want to be men love unmanly men...

37 posted on 03/22/2006 12:50:14 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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Bush's Rhetoric Targets Unnamed Critics

Rhetoric ??

40 posted on 03/22/2006 1:29:49 PM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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Loven may recognize the President's use of indefinite pronouns because of her familiarity with the tools Democrats (and their talking heads) use.

Perhaps she is familiar with the phantom favorite of Democratic talking heads which begins with, "The American people (fill in the blank with whatever criticism of Bush the speaker wants to make)."

What a hatchet piece she has come up with! Her "clever" attempt to delegitimize Bush's rebuttals to critics simply serve to reinforce their validity.

Loven's problem is that her political blinders keep her from seeing that us real "American people" out here know exactly who the President is talking about, because we have heard and read their criticisms.

41 posted on 03/22/2006 1:35:27 PM PST by loveliberty2
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Those AP-Holes at the AP can't figure out that they are the LEGITIMATE Targets???


42 posted on 03/22/2006 2:11:20 PM PST by funkywbr
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.."can somebody read back to me what he said to me yesterday? I left my pad in what I thought was the ladies room, it turn out to be a hall closet, but I can't remember what hall, or even if I wiped"

43 posted on 03/22/2006 2:13:09 PM PST by Doogle (USAF ...7th AF...408MMS..Ubon ,Thailand..."69"..Night Line Delivery ..AMMO!!)
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At least we no longer have to listen to our President say things to us like, "I never had relations with that woman...not once" on a semi-annual basis. *Rolleyes*

I agree. President Bush needs to keep talking to us and not shut up...not once! :)


45 posted on 03/22/2006 2:18:22 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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awwww is this little jennifer snit got her nose out of joint because the Pres has the cohunas to tell the truth???

awwww poor, poor little jennifer....go home to mommy and she will dry your tears.


48 posted on 03/22/2006 3:28:52 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: Alas Babylon!; Just mythoughts; finnman69; speedy; A Balrog of Morgoth; rfp1234; ...

Ruh Ro! Jennifer Loven is in a bit of trouble now. She went too far with her bias this time, and Editor and Publisher did a story on it.

The worst part for her is that it is linked via Drudge’s page. The AP will be forced to marginalize and muzzle her for awhile – and hope this doesn’t get too much coverage. They better hope no one discovers that her husband is a DNC insider and advisor to John Kerry.

AP's Bush 'Straw Man' Story: News Analysis Or Unlabeled Opinion?

NEW YORK Did a recent Associated Press story examining President George Bush's alleged tendency to use a "straw man" approach in his speeches cross the line from news to biased opinion? Or was it just a long-overdue, in-depth review of the president's public speaking approach? The viewpoint, as often happens in Washington, depends on whose blog you are reading, and what you consider opinion and analysis. Still, the article by reporter Jennifer Loven sparked an interesting debate on the blogosphere, and in some newsrooms, over how such an examination of a public figure can cross the line from reporting to opining. Since the piece was not labeled a column, or even analysis, it raised some eyebrows as it veered into a sharp attack on Bush's use of such tactics.

49 posted on 03/22/2006 4:40:50 PM PST by SkyPilot
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Check this out!

Totally biased smear!


50 posted on 03/22/2006 4:50:42 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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Jennifer Loven is married to a former Clintonite and DNC Bigwig. She is merely writing what she was told to by the DNC


51 posted on 03/22/2006 4:53:01 PM PST by MNJohnnie (To Dems: Communism has been tired repeatedly and it doesn't work.- Freeper Lizma)
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First he was dumb as a rock, then a rampaging gunslinger, then blew up levies, then in a bubble, etc.

So JENNIFER LOVEN is confused?

Keep them confused, President Bush! They'll follow you around like puppies:):)

53 posted on 03/22/2006 5:11:52 PM PST by BobS
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This entire "article" is trash, but the most unbelievable part is that as she accuses and trashes GWB for using 'they' or 'some', etc...she then makes this statement herself:

Yet even the speediest plan, as advocated by only a few Democrats, suggested not an immediate drawdown, but one over six months. Most Democrats were not even arguing for a specific troop withdrawal timetable.

Dumb and arrogant is no way to go through life, Jennifer.

54 posted on 03/22/2006 5:40:56 PM PST by NewLand (Posting against liberalism since the 20th century!)
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i noticed you can never email AP writers as theyre never braves enough to give out their email addresses.


56 posted on 03/22/2006 5:44:33 PM PST by georgia2006
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