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Mrs. Clinton Says G.O.P.'s Immigration Plan Is at Odds With the Bible
NY Times ^ | 3/23/ | Nina Bernstein

Posted on 03/23/2006 12:28:28 PM PST by Crackingham

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton invoked the Bible yesterday to criticize a stringent border security measure that, among other things, would make it a federal crime to offer aid to illegal immigrants.

"It is hard to believe that a Republican leadership that is constantly talking about values and about faith would put forth such a mean-spirited piece of legislation," she said of the measure, which was passed by the House of Representatives in December and mirrored a companion Senate bill introduced last week by Senator Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican and the majority leader.

"It is certainly not in keeping with my understanding of the Scripture because this bill would literally criminalize the Good Samaritan and probably even Jesus himself," she said. "We need to sound the alarm about what is being done in the Congress."

Mrs. Clinton, who is running for re-election this year and is leading in polls for the Democratic presidential nomination, spoke at a news conference in Manhattan with more than 30 immigrant leaders after meeting with them privately.

The meeting took place in an atmosphere of mounting urgency, as the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops called on its flock to oppose the measure, and tens of thousands of immigrants around the country stepped up a series of protest rallies in anticipation of a Senate vote on competing immigration bills next week.

Mr. Frist's bill, like the House measure, would make it a crime to be in the United States without proper papers and would add guards and fencing along the Mexican border, and speed deportation.

Some versions, including one proposed by Senator Arlen Spector of Pennsylvania, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, would expand the definition of alien smuggling to include help to illegal immigrants already here.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; border; bordersecurity; clinton; hillary; hillaryclinton; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; irony; jezebel; lackoff; lakoff; religiousleft; shewhomustnotbenamed; walis; wallis; winwithwords
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1 posted on 03/23/2006 12:28:33 PM PST by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham; sure_fine

Coming from the spawn of satan, that's quite a statement, isn't it?


2 posted on 03/23/2006 12:29:45 PM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

How would she know . . . it has been probably a few years since she actually studied it!


3 posted on 03/23/2006 12:31:23 PM PST by rollin (q)
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To: Crackingham

Oh, like she's an authority on the Bible? The Dem's and Liberals politicize morality and moralize politics ..... they make political hay over abortion and say that illegal immigration is moral according to the Bible .....


4 posted on 03/23/2006 12:31:28 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: Crackingham

Funny, but I didn't think the GOP had an immigration plan. Hillary's getting a little ahead of her jiggly.


5 posted on 03/23/2006 12:31:35 PM PST by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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To: Crackingham

The biblical interpretation can be debated, but what gets me is that she thinks this will help her in red states???? She is a lawyer with no political instincts.


6 posted on 03/23/2006 12:31:53 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: Crackingham
So much for Hillary wanting border security.

Hillary is loosing it and exposing herself for the fake she is.

7 posted on 03/23/2006 12:32:23 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Crackingham

Hillary Clinton, in comments critical of former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s homeless policies, sought to remind all of us that “Christmas celebrates ‘the birth of a homeless child.’

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:DjzRMCN-0uIJ:www.americanvision.org/articlearchive/12-13-04.asp+Hillary+Clinton+Jesus+and+Mary+were+homeless&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1


8 posted on 03/23/2006 12:33:07 PM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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I think the cottage cheese on her legs has risen to her head.


9 posted on 03/23/2006 12:33:16 PM PST by freeplancer
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To: Crackingham

I guess this depends on what your definition of 'the Bible' IS.


10 posted on 03/23/2006 12:33:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: Dante3

Yep, she's no different than George Bush when it comes to border security and illegal immigration.


11 posted on 03/23/2006 12:33:53 PM PST by blaquebyrd
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To: Crackingham

So, I guess the whole 'Render unto Caesar' thing is eliminated. Cool.


12 posted on 03/23/2006 12:33:54 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Crackingham

Hitlery obviously pandering for the illegal alien vote... hurl time...


13 posted on 03/23/2006 12:33:57 PM PST by janetgreen (The White House fiddles while America is invaded)
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To: dinoparty
Its funny... liberals quote the Bible to shut down doing something about illegal immigration and denounce the Bible if its invoked against gay marriage and abortion.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

14 posted on 03/23/2006 12:33:59 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Crackingham

bttt


15 posted on 03/23/2006 12:34:13 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bush-Bot;WaterBucket Brigader;and fan of defconw;Cboldt is my mentor!)
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To: Crackingham
"It is certainly not in keeping with my understanding of the Scripture because this bill would literally criminalize the Good Samaritan and probably even Jesus himself," she said. "We need to sound the alarm about what is being done in the Congress."

ANY tough on crime approach is against Christian teaching.

We are asked if someone robs us of our wallet to also give him our cloak. Somehow I doubt that Mrs. Clinton would ever live up to that standard. Seeing as how she herself violated the 10 Commandments by stealing things from the White House as she moved out.

16 posted on 03/23/2006 12:34:15 PM PST by weegee ("Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but Democrats believe every day is April 15.")
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To: Crackingham
"put forth such a mean-spirited piece of legislation"

Mean-spirited? Is it mean-spirited to enforce law? Or, as the Liberal/Socialist extremists portray it, every lawbreaker is a "victim", somehow, with an excuse for reckless disregard for societal rules being "justified".

Screaming about "caring for people" (aka, vote-buying), while disregarding the well-being and recognition of the needs of legal societal members, is a flagrant affront to the vast MAJORITY, who play by the rules.

It's getting closer and closer to the time when this accommodation of extremists who hate being accountable at all will have to be shown that laws DO matter, and consequences for your acts is what our country is based upon.

17 posted on 03/23/2006 12:35:22 PM PST by traditional1
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To: Crackingham

The 'Rat Party's forte is in advocating the violation and the undermining of our nation's laws.


18 posted on 03/23/2006 12:35:51 PM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Axis of Evil: Iran, N. Korea, Syria, Democrat Party & US Mainstream Media)
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To: weegee
Don't get me started on all the other shady dealings Hillary has been involved in but has never owed up to.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

19 posted on 03/23/2006 12:35:57 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque; Crackingham

I have visions of the Heinous Harridan touching a Bible and then getting zapped like the Wicked Witch in the Wizard of Oz when she tried to take the ruby slippers from Dorothy!! I wonder if anyone has tried to sprinkle her with holy water to see if she screams with pain!


20 posted on 03/23/2006 12:36:13 PM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Crackingham

Coming from the bride of Satan is noteworthy.


21 posted on 03/23/2006 12:36:21 PM PST by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: Crackingham

LOL...so now Sister Hellery is a theologian. What a moron.


22 posted on 03/23/2006 12:37:20 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Crackingham

WAIT back upppppp.....you can't have Church and State....its the law.....she has violated a law....one she supports....she should be brought to the center of town and caned....tie her up by her thumbs....poor ice cold water on her a drop at a time....


23 posted on 03/23/2006 12:37:28 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: Crackingham

I probably shouldn't do this, but I'm putting out an open call for any of Hillary's lurkers to please read this advicement.

Stiffle it on pretending to be a born Again believer interested in following the Word of Christ.

You don't know what you are talking about when it concerns scripture. You are using GOD to try to score a political agenda. Rather clumsily I'd add. And Christians, rather then being seduced, are sickened by the rather apparent pandering at expense of our God.

Knock it off.

You are alientating Christians. You are ticking off your own liberal base by even acknowledging Jesus exists. If you had even the slighest clue what Christians were all about you'd realize they have far more respect for people that are unbelievers but RESPECT them and listen to their views, then they do those that pretend to be one of them.

It's makes my skin crawl everytime you do it, and I'm not alone.


24 posted on 03/23/2006 12:37:36 PM PST by Soul Seeker ("The Republican Party is now principally moderate, if not liberal!" Arlen Specter (R-Pa))
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To: SkyDancer

She makes me ill. Isn't she one of the ones who made fun of
President Bush for speaking too much about religion. The
Dems are the biggest bunch of phonies. I am on a rant as I just watched Rumsfeld's press conference and the press is so rude to him it is sickening.


25 posted on 03/23/2006 12:38:00 PM PST by 2rightsleftcoast
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To: traditional1
Liberals think its mean-spirited to close the borders and assert our national sovereignty. You what gets my goat here - Hillary is screaming about profiling but just a month ago she was demanding profiling for Arabs in the ports uproar. Quite a switcheroo for the Xenophobic Princess.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

26 posted on 03/23/2006 12:38:09 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Crackingham
Hmmm. Didn't Jesus state that his kingdom wasn't of this world? And didn't he further instruct us to render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's?

Isn't Congress Caesar?

27 posted on 03/23/2006 12:38:24 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Polyxene

If the holy water works, use a firehose on the harridan!


28 posted on 03/23/2006 12:38:56 PM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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To: Crackingham

Hope the Republicans are recording these idiotic statements. No way she is going to keep all these BS straight.

The real issue is not immigration reform, it is law enforcement. We do have laws against illegal immigration. Liberals are very find of the "law enforcement" argument on terrorism, why not here?


29 posted on 03/23/2006 12:39:05 PM PST by IamConservative (Who does not trust a man of principle? A man who has none.)
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To: Crackingham

Mexico is mentioned in the bible. Who'd a thunk it?


30 posted on 03/23/2006 12:39:15 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: weegee
We are asked if someone robs us of our wallet to also give him our cloak. Somehow I doubt that Mrs. Clinton would ever live up to that standard

She would have any problem at all living up to it ... after she takes your wallet she'll want your cloak too.

31 posted on 03/23/2006 12:39:58 PM PST by tx_eggman (Islamofascism ... bringing you the best of the 7th century for the past 1300 years.)
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To: Crackingham
I pray to God she would actually open her Bible and start reading as amazing things could happen...

John 14:

23 Jesus replied: 'If anyone loves me he will cherish my word; my Father will love him and we will come to him and make him our abode.

24 He that does not love me neglects my words. Yet the word you hear is not my own but that of the Father who sent me.

32 posted on 03/23/2006 12:40:08 PM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: Crackingham

There is a talking point that the libs are pushing to deflect discussion of the total issue. That is somehow clergy won't be able to help illegals somehow. I think it's a strained interpretation, but it's out there.

Catholic church is hemoraging members so its leaders have a monetary interest in increasing Latin American immigration, legal or not.


33 posted on 03/23/2006 12:40:15 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Sgt_Schultze
Yes and more to the point if its alright to keep terrorists out, why can't we keep illegal aliens out. The Democrats seem determined to overlook the word "illegal" here. What to do about them and to make this country safer ain't rocket science.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

34 posted on 03/23/2006 12:40:56 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Crackingham

Bible? Well, hell!!! Welcome to the growing number of people who actually read the Bible!!! Nice to have you, Hillary. You might want to note the parts about NOT killing and NOT sleeping with someone of the same sex. Being new to the subject, I just wanted to make you aware of these parts which will probably be quite a shock to you.


35 posted on 03/23/2006 12:41:10 PM PST by bpjam (Now accepting liberal apologies.....)
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To: Crackingham

The "deceiver" using the Bible to it's advantage. I'm shocked!


36 posted on 03/23/2006 12:41:16 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (A Liberal: One who demands half of your pie, because he didn't bake one.)
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To: Crackingham

If she desires laws that do not conflict with what the Bible might have to say on the matter, will she also agree that laws must not conflict with what the Koran has to say?

She is a nut case, plain and simple, but also are those who deny the rule of law as it applies to criminal aliens and illegal border crossings. GWB and the GOP must take a good long look at this or Hillary will win, as nutty as she is.


37 posted on 03/23/2006 12:41:25 PM PST by Final Authority
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To: tx_eggman

Just damn ...

would = wouldn't


38 posted on 03/23/2006 12:41:39 PM PST by tx_eggman (Islamofascism ... bringing you the best of the 7th century for the past 1300 years.)
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To: Crackingham
[ "my understanding of the Scripture because this bill would literally criminalize the Good Samaritan and probably even Jesus himself,"- She who should not be named ]

i.e. Good Samaritan = Saul Alinsky(google him)..

39 posted on 03/23/2006 12:41:40 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: goldstategop

Or if its taught in a school.

All of a sudden the Hillary isnt for seperation of church and state.


40 posted on 03/23/2006 12:41:55 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Crackingham

The Bible? Hitlary? lol

Must be where she kept her law firm billing records as well. It took awhile but she got around to looking there in the end too.


41 posted on 03/23/2006 12:42:06 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: IamConservative

"Hope the Republicans are recording these idiotic statements. No way she is going to keep all these BS straight."

And compare them with her earlier ones opposite. She's a flip-flopper.


42 posted on 03/23/2006 12:42:38 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Crackingham

Maybe she meant The Cake Bible. It IS a "good book". Can't imagine she knows what a real bible looks like, since if she stares at one she'll burst into flames.


43 posted on 03/23/2006 12:42:40 PM PST by AmericanChef
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To: Crackingham; Northern Yankee; Victoria Delsoul; onyx; La Enchiladita

The HildiBeast speakith....


44 posted on 03/23/2006 12:42:43 PM PST by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big".....Jerry Fletcher)
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To: janetgreen

I'd much rather spend $8 billion to make sure only U.S. citizens vote than build a wall at the border.


45 posted on 03/23/2006 12:43:26 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: goldstategop
Hillary is screaming about profiling

Profiling? For sex deviates, we MUST recognize them according to Liberals.

For "minorities", we MUST recognize them, according to Liberals.

For "illegals", we MUST "recognize them".

That's only when the Liberals want to bestow upon them un-earned rewards to bo buy their votes with other people's money)

How do we "recognize" what we're not supposed to see (they call it "profiling").....go figger....

46 posted on 03/23/2006 12:43:50 PM PST by traditional1
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

Rush had a tape of this witch talking about the Bible and I just had to turn it off. The day I take biblical advice from Hillary is the day I turn Dim.


47 posted on 03/23/2006 12:44:00 PM PST by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking guts, you coward.)
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To: Crackingham; BibChr
"It is certainly not in keeping with my understanding of the Scripture because this bill would literally criminalize the Good Samaritan and probably even Jesus himself," she said.

The Good Samaritan and Jesus were illegal immigrants? I don't remember seeing that in the Gospel. Maybe it was right under the part that talked about Mary and Joseph being homeless...couldn't find that one either.

48 posted on 03/23/2006 12:44:03 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic

Maybe she has?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1601472/posts


49 posted on 03/23/2006 12:44:33 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: Crackingham

Demagoguery from a demagogue democrat.


50 posted on 03/23/2006 12:44:57 PM PST by tkathy (Ban the headscarf (http://bloodlesslinchpinsofislamicterrorism.blogspot.com))
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