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Judge in Dover case reports hostile e-mails
York Daily Record [Penna] ^ | 24 March 2006 | LAURI LEBO

Posted on 03/24/2006 4:03:39 AM PST by PatrickHenry

Jones and his family were under marshals' protection in December.

In the days after U.S. Judge John E. Jones III issued his decision in Dover's intelligent design case, outraged people sent threatening e-mails to his office.

Jones won't discuss details of the e-mails, or where they might have come from, but he said they concerned the U.S. Marshals Service.

So, in the week before Christmas, marshals kept watch over Jones and his family.

While no single e-mail may have reached the level of a direct threat, Jones said, the overall tone was so strident, marshals "simply determined the tenor was of sufficient concern that I ought to have protection."

"They decided to err on the side of caution," he said.

Jones, a judge with the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Pennsylvania, decided to speak publicly about the e-mails this week in light of recent reports about threats of violence against federal judges. He said statements made by "irresponsible commentators and political figures" have gotten so extreme that he fears tragedy.

"We're going to get a judge hurt," he said.

Jones pointed to a Sunday New York Times article about U.S. Supreme Court justices speaking of the recent threats.

The article concerned a speech in which Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg revealed details of an Internet death threat targeting her and recently retired Justice Sandra Day O'Connor.

A February 2005 posting on an Internet chat site addressing unnamed "commandos" said: "Here is your first patriotic assignment. ... If you are what you say you are, and NOT armchair patriots, then those two justices will not live another week."

In another speech this month, the Times said in the same article, Justice O'Connor addressed comments made last year in the Terri Schiavo case by Rep. Tom DeLay and Sen. John Cornyn, both Texas Republicans.

Cornyn hinted after the judge's decision that such rulings could lead to violence.

"It builds up and builds up and builds up to the point where some people engage in violence," Cornyn said. "Certainly without any justification, but a concern that I have."

'It saddens you'

Jones is also concerned with a statement uttered recently by conservative pundit Ann Coulter regarding Justice John Paul Stevens' past votes upholding Roe v. Wade.

At a speech in Little Rock, Ark., this month, Coulter was quoted as saying, "We need somebody to put rat poison in Justice Stevens' crème brulee."

Jones said such remarks could fuel irrational acts by misguided individuals thinking they're being patriotic.

"There is an element here that is acting like it is open season on judges," Jones said.

"It saddens me that it's come to the point, where we're talking about what ought to be an honest disagreement, then you heighten it to something that is darker and much more disturbing."

Last year, Pinellas County, Fla., Circuit Judge George Greer and his family were under the protection of armed guards because of death threats over his ruling to allow Michael Schiavo to remove the feeding tube from his wife, who doctors determined was in a persistent vegetative state.

And 13 months ago in Illinois, U.S. District Judge Joan H. Lefkow's husband and her mother were killed, both shot in the head. Authorities determined that their killer was a disgruntled, unemployed electrician who was a plaintiff in a medical malpractice suit that Lefkow dismissed.

This is the first time Jones, who was appointed to the federal bench in August 2002, has availed himself of marshal protection.

But he said most federal judges who have spent enough time on the bench will need security at least once in their careers.

"It doesn't anger you," he said. "It saddens you. The reason I chose to talk about it now is that attacks on judges have really gone beyond the pale."

An attempt to educate

In a 139-page opinion [Kitzmiller et al. v Dover Area School District et al.], Jones ruled that intelligent design was not science but merely repackaged creationism, which courts had previously ruled should not be taught in science classes. Jones struck down Dover Area School Board's curriculum policy that required biology students to hear a statement that told them "intelligent design is an explanation of the origin of life that differs from Charles Darwin's view."

And he referred to the "breathtaking inanity" of the school board's decision. "The students, parents and teachers of the Dover Area School District deserved better than to be dragged into this legal maelstrom, with its resulting utter waste of monetary and personal resources."

While most judges are reticent, Jones said he's opted to use his recent exposure - Wired News named him one of 2005's top 10 sexiest geeks - to educate the public about judicial independence.

In the wake of his decision, the pro-intelligent design Discovery Institute dubbed him "an activist judge."

And conservative commentator Phyllis Schlafly chided him for going against the wishes of fundamentalist Christians.

"Judge John E. Jones III could still be chairman of the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board if millions of evangelical Christians had not pulled the lever for George W. Bush in 2000," Schlafly wrote less than two weeks after the decision. "Yet this federal judge, who owes his position entirely to those voters and the president who appointed him, stuck the knife in the backs of those who brought him to the dance in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District."

Jones, a Republican who received the judicial endorsement of Pennsylvania conservative Sen. Rick Santorum, said he anticipated such reaction, but "I didn't know what corner it would come from."

People who hurl such accusations don't understand the role of an independent judge, he said. A judge's responsibility is not to interpret the desires of a political base. Rather, it is to interpret the law based on existing legal precedent.

He said decisions can't be determined by political affiliations. They must be made without bias.

"Had I ignored existing precedent," he said, "that would have been the work of an activist judge."

DISCOVERY'S DISCOURSE

Discovery Institute, an organization championing intelligent design, has released a book critical of U.S. District Judge John E. Jones III's ruling in Dover's intelligent design lawsuit.

The book, "Traipsing Into Evolution: Intelligent Design and the Kitzmiller vs. Dover Decision" dissects Jones' December decision, in which he ruled intelligent design was creationism posing as science.

Intelligent design is the idea that the complexity of life demands a creator.

The book, which is 15 pages shorter than Jones' 139-page opinion, is written by Casey Luskin, a Discovery attorney, and Discovery fellows David K. DeWolf, John G. West and Jonathan Witt.

The writers argue that Jones' decision was the work of "an activist judge" and that he ignored the science behind intelligent design.

The book is priced at $14.95 and is available at bookstores throughout the country and online at Amazon.com. It also can be ordered directly by calling 800-643-4102.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: activistjudge; christiantaliban; christianzealots; crevolist; darwinuts; derangedfanatics; dover; fundiemullahs; fundiesoffthedeepend; ignoranceandviolence; judge; religionofpeace; talibornagain; youngearthcultists
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To: Just mythoughts
"Tax dollars are what gives darwinism its life."

No, it's the evidence.

"TOE is at the top of the food chain of welfare."

No, that would be what ID/creationism is trying for. They want handouts. ID is trying to get into the science classroom through an affirmative action program. It's no less a parasite then any other left-wing philosophy.

" Any cuts or lack of expected funding really does threaten darwinists, that I know for a FACT."

Funding in what?
41 posted on 03/24/2006 7:27:49 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: kittymyrib; KeepUSfree

I looked for this quote used by Ginsberg in a February speech, and I can't find a site with the original. It's always only "attributed" to Ginsberg with no original source. Do you know, did this statement actually appear on a blog site? Which one? Where?


42 posted on 03/24/2006 7:30:13 AM PST by SuzyQue
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To: Just mythoughts

No real problem, again.

We don't train people, there are none to worry about their jobs. Colleges and grad sschools are already filling much, maybe most of their science spaces with foreign students.

Good American scientists can also vote with their feet and go where the research dollars are. It's called brain drain.


43 posted on 03/24/2006 7:34:53 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: JCEccles
But the darling of the atheist left?

I have thus far seen no evidence to suggest that the judge is either an atheist or a leftist. Why, then, would he be the "darling" of the atheist left?
44 posted on 03/24/2006 7:37:04 AM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
"No, it's the evidence."

TOE is by design darwin's description of evidence. You find it credible and that is your God given right as is mine to see the incredibleness of the theory.


"No, that would be what ID/creationism is trying for. They want handouts. ID is trying to get into the science classroom through an affirmative action program. It's no less a parasite then any other left-wing philosophy."

This is just plain funny considering all that art work without one cell of evidence used to promote darwin.

"Funding in what?"

Well to say more would be to identify without permission, suffice it to say somebody got a 'cut' in funding.
45 posted on 03/24/2006 7:37:33 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Dimensio

Because he didn't agree with the creationists, he must be. That's the only alternative, apparently.


46 posted on 03/24/2006 7:38:59 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: PatrickHenry

You're correct, of course. The prevasive and frank dishonesty must have gotten to him in ways that some here don't seem to be able to recognize.


47 posted on 03/24/2006 7:39:34 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: From many - one.

The application of the scientific methodology using survival of the fittest has been in place in our public education since government deemed it credible.

The results are plain to see government must care for the least fit.


48 posted on 03/24/2006 7:42:35 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Dimensio

Well the Left surely likes his decision, as would any objective person, Left or Right. But these personal physical attacks I am sure have the Left Wing Press laughing and saying "Keep 'em coming - just shows you that if you don't toe the Cr/ID line you're open to vilification and physical threats (in the Kansas Prof's case, physical attacks)."


Yeh, great image for American Conservatives.


49 posted on 03/24/2006 7:44:25 AM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: Just mythoughts
The results are plain to see government must care for the least fit.

I believe that you have fundamentally misunderstood the implications of evolution.
50 posted on 03/24/2006 7:44:45 AM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Just mythoughts
" TOE is by design darwin's description of evidence."

No, it isn't. It has been verified by thousands of different scientists in many different fields. If what Darwin proposed didn't hold up, most scientists wouldn't have accepted it and would still not accept it.

"You find it credible and that is your God given right as is mine to see the incredibleness of the theory."

Because I actually understand the theory, and you don't.

" This is just plain funny considering all that art work without one cell of evidence used to promote darwin."

You have seen and been presented with literally thousands of pages of evidence for evolution. I have yet to see ONE piece of evidence for ID/creationism. ID is gutless choice, and the promoters of the claim are trying to sidestep accepted scientific practice to get their theological claim into a science classroom. They are trying to use the power of government to change what science is. They are leftists in conservative clothing.

" Well to say more would be to identify without permission, suffice it to say somebody got a 'cut' in funding."

So, you made a claim you couldn't back up. I see. :)
51 posted on 03/24/2006 7:45:22 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: puroresu
I am myself today. Moreso than I have been lately.

:^)

52 posted on 03/24/2006 7:45:28 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: Nextrush
In fact, the media blows up the comments of "terrorists" like Ann Coulter and Phyllis Schlafly to link them to "threats" against judges.

May I assume you are on the record with similar views about the Craig Kilborn "snipers wanted" incident?

53 posted on 03/24/2006 7:46:57 AM PST by Condorman (Prefer infinitely the company of those seeking the truth to those who believe they have found it.)
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To: Senator Bedfellow

LOL! Well, I hope you have a fine day and a fine weekend!


54 posted on 03/24/2006 7:47:13 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: Just mythoughts

There are some evolutionists that I will not respond to.

Just being nice.


55 posted on 03/24/2006 7:47:52 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

What is "scientific methodology?"

Is it related to the scientific method?

How does survival of the fittest apply to schools? Does it mean that good students go further in school? Is that bad?


56 posted on 03/24/2006 7:50:11 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: From many - one.

prevasive=pervasive


57 posted on 03/24/2006 7:51:24 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: furball4paws

I thought the official crid line was that he beat himself up.


58 posted on 03/24/2006 7:52:33 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: From many - one.; Right Wing Professor

The CR/ID line is probably that, but RWP and a few others have been watching closely and the attack seems to be real. This Brown Shirt mentality has got to go if American Conservatism is to make progress.


59 posted on 03/24/2006 7:55:41 AM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: Just mythoughts

"The application of the scientific methodology using survival of the fittest has been in place in our public education since government deemed it credible.

The results are plain to see government must care for the least fit. "

Your logic is, how shall we say, less than convincing. If survival of the fittest is what is being taught as the correct ethical system, that would mean that least fit would NOT being getting cared for. Do you even read what you write?


60 posted on 03/24/2006 7:55:45 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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