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Schools Cut Back Subjects to Push Reading and Math
nyt ^ | 3/26/06 | SAM DILLON

Posted on 03/25/2006 7:50:14 PM PST by mathprof

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To: pepperdog

I have to disagree with this a little. You don't have to have "special" classes. You combine. That's how we used to get it all in, in 5 hours. One teacher. 5 subjects plus lunch , 2 recesses and music.


41 posted on 03/25/2006 8:30:22 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: TN4Liberty

I'm looking at a Dick and Jane primer I bought for my grandkids:') There are a lot of different lessons in this reading book.


42 posted on 03/25/2006 8:39:00 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

I watch my neighbor's kids get on the school bus every morning at 7:05. They return at 4:05. How much longer can their day get?
When I was in grammar school (ancient history, I know) school was from 9 to 3 with an hour for lunch.


43 posted on 03/25/2006 8:41:54 PM PST by Roccus
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To: Roccus

My grandkids are in private school. They go from 8:30-3:00. They cover all the subjects plus Bible. They do get homework though. I can't see why public schools need to cut science and history when both can only help math and reading skills.


44 posted on 03/25/2006 8:48:19 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: mathprof

If they have to cut social studies to teach 3 r's that's a double win.
If they have to cut back science to teach 3 r's, then they weren't ready to learn science anyway.


45 posted on 03/25/2006 8:51:50 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: mathprof

My only concern is if they turn the entire school into remedial math for just 1 student. They need to find ways to let kids advance at their own rates and not the rate of the slowest student(s).


46 posted on 03/25/2006 8:54:01 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Spanaway Lori

Me too. Of course, I had to walk five miles through the snow and be grateful that the school had walls.


47 posted on 03/25/2006 8:54:54 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: CindyDawg
They don't need to cut those subjects. They say that to force parents to object to NCLB. It's nothing but extortion!
48 posted on 03/25/2006 9:01:59 PM PST by Roccus
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To: Euro-American Scum

From India....damn!


49 posted on 03/25/2006 10:38:43 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: digger48

***had reduced the hours of instructional time spent on history, music and other subjects...***

Considering the revisionist history taught in public schools today, it probably is a good thing. However, children NEED to learn about history. I wish SOMEONE would write a truthful history book for children. I can't find one anywhere.


50 posted on 03/25/2006 10:51:41 PM PST by kitkat (Democrats: Millions for politics, but not one cent for national defense.)
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To: luckystarmom

You still teach science and history, but only make it available to kids who mastered the 3 R's.


51 posted on 03/25/2006 11:16:04 PM PST by Fee (`+Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: Fee
Are we in the process of sending teaching jobs overseas?

I bid a job last August to set up a network to do exactly that for a local school district. Didn't get it. They ended up hiring an H1-B immigrant from India to do the job. True story.

52 posted on 03/25/2006 11:29:43 PM PST by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: mathprof

Classes on how to turn on a computer and respond to software replaced core classes to the detriment of the student. It was a windfall for the computer industry and forced the market, but cheated the kids. The whole thing should have been an extra-curricular option or a home option. Nobody would have been cheated of anything.


53 posted on 03/26/2006 12:58:46 AM PST by Seeing More Clearly Now (No exceptions for terrorists. Mr Bush, why do you ignore your own Bush Doctrine?)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Or Marxist Indoctrinational Basketballl, Or Stalinist, Hate-Bush Geography??


54 posted on 03/26/2006 1:00:34 AM PST by tcrlaf
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55 posted on 03/26/2006 4:02:58 AM PST by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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56 posted on 03/26/2006 4:05:20 AM PST by summer
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To: mathprof
I basically don't support the NCLB act.

In Pennsylvania, as a result of NCLB, students in certain grades have to take the "PSSA" test; a standardized test in math and reading (with plans to include science later on) that gauges how well students are doing. Well, that's what is SUPPOSED to happen. School districts set aside time prior to the test, and "teach to the test"; in addition, teachers somehow find out what material is on the test prior to it.

If that's not bad enough, children in Special Ed classes who are profoundly retarded are also "required" to take it (for now, it's only given in specific grades; not all students take it). For example, a child that I know had to take it, and his "testing" was for him to move an object from one side of the wheelchair tray to the other. Of course, he was not at all capable of even this, so his "aide" took his hand, placed it on the object, and moved his hand from one side of the tray to the other. AND, in order to "evaluate" him, they videotaped him doing this. No wonder per pupil cost has skyrocketed....

57 posted on 03/26/2006 4:12:49 AM PST by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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To: Euro-American Scum

Seriously?


58 posted on 03/26/2006 4:13:24 AM PST by Born Conservative (Chronic Positivity - http://jsher.livejournal.com/)
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To: andie74
Why would it be so hard to teach someone to read material that incorporates World History and Geography?

And science....

Our 3rd grade teacher had a piano in the room, and our reading books had stories about children all over the world and how they lived. There were also songs about each area that we learned.

So, in "reading" class, we learned social studies, geography, and music. Of course, that was back in the dark ages. ;-)

59 posted on 03/26/2006 4:37:25 AM PST by Amelia (Education exists to overcome ignorance, not validate it.)
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To: digger48
found that since the passage of the federal law, 71 percent of the nation's 15,000 school districts had reduced the hours of instructional time spent on history, music and other subjects
not exactly a good thing

How is one to learn any other subject, if students cannot read at grade level ?

60 posted on 03/26/2006 4:45:43 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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