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Schools Cut Back Subjects to Push Reading and Math
nyt ^ | 3/26/06 | SAM DILLON

Posted on 03/25/2006 7:50:14 PM PST by mathprof

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To: mathprof
Oh, what a shame. You mean the Pc sex ed classes and the diversity training have to stop?? I wonder how many high school graduates in this country are actually functionally illiterate?
21 posted on 03/25/2006 8:04:02 PM PST by khnyny
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To: Galveston Grl

Well, that is true, but this is sortof like forcing thirteen year olds to do something against their will. They will find a way of screwing the students to prove they were right all along. Count on it.


22 posted on 03/25/2006 8:04:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: gondramB

Well, it's nuts, if you think about it. I am a former grade school kid. (Yes, there was such a thing back then.) We were in school Monday thru Friday. School began at 8:30am, ended at 3:00pm, with an hour for lunch and recess. There was also a 30 minute recess (or gym on bad weather days) mid morning. That means we were in class for five hours (give or take) every day. In that five hours, we learned math, reading and english, geography, science, history, and some other stuff. It's NOT tough! What's the problem?


23 posted on 03/25/2006 8:05:31 PM PST by Just Lori (To everything, there is a season.........Ecclesiastes, 3:1-8)
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To: mathprof

Why would they need to trim other subjects? Reading is a part of all subjects! I am glad they won't have time for their PC indoctrination as well, but I'm sure those classes are the last to go. Music, Art, History will all be cut first.


24 posted on 03/25/2006 8:05:54 PM PST by antceecee (Reagan Democrat and now a Bush Republican...)
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To: Roccus

Science and history should be taught with reading. There is nothing here about trimming the junk. It sounds like they want to give up two very important subjects to keep the projects. I really feel sorry for our kids. They have learned what they have been taught Now schools are under the gun and plan to "hit the books" Cramming for tests is hard. Look for longer days and longer years.


25 posted on 03/25/2006 8:07:41 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: mathprof

I agree with you. The core function of schools is to instill basic literacy. If this core function is not accomplished, then the students are handicapped when trying to learn other subjects. If they can't read or do basic math, all the other subjects esentially cannot be taught. The students would not have the skills to learn other subjects.


26 posted on 03/25/2006 8:08:15 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: mathprof

At my kids school, they aren't getting any science or history and geography.

I'm thinking of homeschooling them because of the lack of science and history and geography.


27 posted on 03/25/2006 8:09:04 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: gondramB

It is. There's no science or history.


28 posted on 03/25/2006 8:09:27 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: DoughtyOne
**They will find a way of screwing the students to prove they were right all along. Count on it.**

Hillary's pals will be in charge of setting education requirements some day and that is when we will see the "way around it" and kids literally screwed.
29 posted on 03/25/2006 8:09:41 PM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: Fee

The problem is when the kids can read and write and do math, and they still don't get science and history.


30 posted on 03/25/2006 8:10:33 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: andie74

Yep. They can also read science books, and do reports on sciece and history related topics. However, it seems that the schools cannot incorporate these things together.


31 posted on 03/25/2006 8:11:49 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: digger48

when "history" class is about how very bad that Christopher Columbus was, bringing disease to the peace-loving natives of North Amrica, or about those evil white guys who founded the United States ?


32 posted on 03/25/2006 8:12:02 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: DoughtyOne
You just watch how this is managed though. What will be cut are geography, world history and other important topics. What won't be cut are sex education, alternative lifestyles indoctrination and the Koran as an alternative holy book.

Bingo! You are so right on the mark. It is always their game plan. When they want higher/more taxes, suddenly the only things that will be cut are essential services. For example, when Hillsborough county (Tampa) wanted additional sales tax to build a stadium for the Bucs, they tied it to a sales tax for ambulance service. Then when they pushed for it, the only way you could vote against the stadium tax was to vote against ambulance service. Same playbook.

35 posted on 03/25/2006 8:17:57 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s
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"If you cannot do the basic three R's, offering science, social studies and other courses are not going to help you"

Needs repeating again and again until it is finally acknowledged and understood.


36 posted on 03/25/2006 8:19:14 PM PST by pepperdog
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To: mathprof
I managed to get all of those other subjects along with my 3 R's. Golly, how could that have happened?

The last thing to get scaled back is the PC crap. Bank on it. As far as they are concerned, it's the most important part of the curriculum.
37 posted on 03/25/2006 8:21:26 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s
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To: mathprof

Schools focus on math & reading?

What a concept!


38 posted on 03/25/2006 8:23:54 PM PST by Redbob
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Yes, out here in California they cut funding for law enforcement, fire services, parks and libraries. Schools shut down band and sports until folks nearly rioted. Even now they scrape by to keep those concerns open.

Used to be you could visit local parks for free. Today you have to spend $7.50 to $15.00 to vist one exhibit in one park. Of to the next exhibit and another $7.50 to $15.00.

Honestly, our public officials... well, nevermind. You know where I'm headed.


39 posted on 03/25/2006 8:24:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (If you don't want to be lumped in with those who commit violence in your name, take steps to end it.)
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To: CindyDawg
Science and history should be taught with reading.

They can overlap, but science should involve observation and hands-on experimentation. History should be made as alive as possible, not limited to only that which can be put on the pages of a book.

Some kids learn by reading, others by doing. Sometimes reading is a bridge to history. Sometimes studying artifacts is a bridge to reading. Find what works for a kid and use it.

There is no one-size-fits-all solution to education. I would hope the methods for teaching science to a second grader differ from the methods for teaching it to a tenth grader.

40 posted on 03/25/2006 8:29:22 PM PST by TN4Liberty (Sixty percent of all people understand statistics. The other half are clueless.)
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