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The Immigration Debate: GOP COMMITS SUICIDE!
nationalledger ^ | Mar 25, 2006 | Matthew A. Roberts

Posted on 03/25/2006 11:03:30 PM PST by Icelander

In elections one earns political capital. Once spent, c’est tout. Consumed capital cannot be replenished by a cauterized constituency, and today the Republican base boils.

I recently spoke to someone who volunteered for Bush’s 2004 campaign. I asked whether he would work for the GOP in 2008, and he bemoaned “no.” I asked why, and he replied, “It’s a sad day when Democrats like Dianne Feinstein are tougher on immigration than Republicans like Sam Brownback.”

The avalanche of support that has followed Republicans since 1994 we now see slowly evaporating over the issue of a guest-worker program. Impassioned Republicans four years ago now stand out of steam, feeling betrayed by a party leadership that would support a bill so at odds with conservative principles.

This guest-worker proposal, after all, rewards illegal behavior. Instead of requiring illegal immigrants to return to Mexico (or wherever) to apply for a permit, it grants legal status on the spot, thus acting as a “magnet for continued illegal immigration.” And, as Rep. John Hostettler (R.-Ind.) recently said, any guest-worker plan “puts the interest of foreign, illegal workers above those of our own American citizens.”

Newt Gingrich summed up the matter most succinctly on the O’Reilly Factor (March 15, 2006). He has observed a growing divide between Washington GOP elites and the average voting Republican. Somehow, GOP elites have come to believe that a guest-worker program is necessary (although it is not). Your average GOP voter, however, while praising boosts to border security, deeply dislikes any guest-worker giveaway.

Why GOP leadership supports such a lemon remains unseen. In 1986 Congress passed the Immigration Reform and Control Act. It granted green cards to three million illegal immigrants, consequently attracting yet another five million to cross the border to replace their decriminalized comrades. Furthermore, a recent poll taken in Mexico found that at least 46 percent of the population (50 million Mexicans) would cross the border if given the chance. Any guest-worker initiative advertises this avenue.

It is in future forecasts, however, that Republicans really blunder. Illegal immigrants, voting for socialist candidates in Mexico or South America, will become Democrats once gaining full citizenship. Superficial surveys taken in a couple cities show that 9 out of 10 illegal immigrants support Democrats over Republicans. This guest-worker program, on a silver platter, will hand over California, Florida, Texas, Arizona and New Mexico to Democrats.

Is the GOP abating its base and fallowing its future in one fell swoop?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; amnesty; aztlan; bigotry; borders; crime; elections; hysteria; immigrantlist; parnoia; politics; selfdestruct; whining
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To: Number57
"Zot?"

Why would you even ask that question?

You've only been here a few weeks.....maybe it's you that needs zotting.

81 posted on 03/26/2006 3:41:30 AM PST by Godebert
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To: antaresequity
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Happy trails to you.... (:^*)

82 posted on 03/26/2006 3:44:49 AM PST by WideGlide (That light at the end of the tunnel might be a muzzle flash.)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
The reason I believe we're in the minority and American's can live with a guest worker program is because I didn't see a Conservative Republican nominee even close to Bush in '00 or '04 but even before Bush was the nominee for reelection, everyone knew he favored a guest worker program and he still got a 52% majority vote in the election and the Republicans are still majority in both houses. Yes there is angry Conservatives that have effected Bush's poll numbers but most of the downward decline, 10-14 points, is due to pollsters over-sampling Rats and so-called "Independents". I don't like any of what is going on but on the reality side, I would have to accept a guest worker program as long as the borders got sealed if that's what our elected officials came up with. I'm not one for cutting off the nose spite the face. True Conservatives, termed loosely, makes up about 45% of the Republican base, Moderate Republican's 40%, True RINOS 10%, other's 5%. The Rats Party is a Liberal/Socialist Party but the Republican's are a Consensus Party meaning there has to be compromise before anything gets done. Congress is not voted on a National Scale but on a State or Regional Scale so their going to represent, or pretend, the will of their constituents not a National Movement.
83 posted on 03/26/2006 3:45:10 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: Icelander

Well, it is possible that the illegal aliens will offer the support that Americans don't want to...


84 posted on 03/26/2006 3:46:22 AM PST by Bernard (History repeats itself because people don't change.)
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To: djf

"Why is it that George W. Bush, given the choice of siding with conservative middle class America, seems to ALWAYS choose to side with non-Americans and foreign controlled interests?"

Because Bush is as stupid as he is reputed to be.


85 posted on 03/26/2006 3:49:53 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: LibertarianInExile

Don't "you'll" me because I'm not trying to sucker anyone, just stating fact. Isn't it strange that Bush made it clear before his reelection that he wanted a guest worker program and he still got 52% of the vote? I guess since you're an expert on what people want, tell me what candidate you would have proposed to beat Bush and wouldn't have to compromise with the other Branch because he's just so right?


86 posted on 03/26/2006 3:55:43 AM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: eazdzit

Ah, Pinko Weld and Doris Meisner, who let all the 9/11 attackers in on student visas, wrote this anti-US-
sovereignty screed. What a surprise.


87 posted on 03/26/2006 3:58:08 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Ladycalif; Travis McGee

I hope Bush & company are closely observing what's happening.

I will do everything in my power to help oust politicians who support those of other countries who dare, in protest, to fly foreign flags in America.

If they've not the will to oppose such insurrection among foreigners, they've no business in public offices of America.


88 posted on 03/26/2006 3:58:41 AM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Wasanother

"I guess since you're an expert on what people want, tell me what candidate you would have proposed to beat Bush and wouldn't have to compromise with the other Branch because he's just so right?"

Is that my only option, to say who should have beaten Bush or stand with him on an open door policy? How about I take door #3, Monty? I say that Americans should stand against any sellout compromise and demand that national security be delivered at home as well as abroad. I'm sure the big money on the free traitor side will be all ponied up to paint the Minutemen crowd as 'vigilantes' and anyone supporting Kyl and the border-control advocates as 'racist.' But all the money in the world won't make a Benedict Arnold sleep soundly at night. Judas hanged himself. Other traitors will have to figure their own way out.


89 posted on 03/26/2006 4:03:16 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: stboz
I fought your idea since the elections of 1992, when I saw some people voting for crazy Perot, saying that they were both alike. I was wrong, and you are right (even if Perot wasn't the answer).

Since 2001, my only conclusion is that we have a bi-factional ruling party and that the only result of electing either is increased state power and loss of sovereignty. The only difference is which group of supporters gets the spoils.

90 posted on 03/26/2006 4:07:13 AM PST by jammer
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To: Lurker

You are absolutely correct there Lurker.

If the Rebubs don't quit spending my money and quit selling our country out for the spanish vote and cheep labor they'll lose their conservative base.


91 posted on 03/26/2006 4:07:43 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: LibertarianInExile

Good Morning L.I.E. Still pushing the DNC propaganda I see.


92 posted on 03/26/2006 4:13:43 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!)
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To: eazdzit; Travis McGee; backhoe
The CFR document demands that we implement "the Social Security Totalization Agreement negotiated between the United States and Mexico." That's code language for putting illegal aliens into the U.S. Social Security system, which is bound to bankrupt the system.

If that passes I'll become a criminal - I will cease to pay any taxes whatsoever and I will begin a public campaign to enlist every documented worker to refuse to pay taxes as well. But I'll also challenge the law through the Courts.

93 posted on 03/26/2006 4:21:04 AM PST by Abundy
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To: Icelander

It looks like the Republicans have just handed the "ticket" for the Democrats to win in November. So many times the Clinton Administration took action against the will of the people; so now go the Republicans! The "will" of the people is rather straight forward: Enforce the immigration laws, protect our borders, our language and our culture. What a sad day!


94 posted on 03/26/2006 4:21:16 AM PST by olezip
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To: MNJohnnie

"Good Morning L.I.E. Still pushing the DNC propaganda I see."

Howdy, John! No expectations here that you'll be able to muster a cogent response without your CFR crib notes handy. Til then, I'll take all the insults you can dish out--I certainly don't anticipate you'll have anything else to contribute.


95 posted on 03/26/2006 4:25:17 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: LibertarianInExile

Right L.I.E. only problem is you gave yourself away with your screen name.


96 posted on 03/26/2006 4:26:30 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!)
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To: olezip

"It looks like the Republicans have just handed the "ticket" for the Democrats to win in November."

Ah, but there's the rub. Voting for the Rats doesn't get you any closer to having American borders protected. It's not as if they're going to close them. What's an American to do?


97 posted on 03/26/2006 4:27:03 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: LibertarianInExile

Yes, but my desire to get my butt out to vote is greatly diminished. I will continue to vote Republican, if I make it to the polls. In Virginia both Democrats and Republicans are raising taxes. It is just that the Republicans are on a slower pace to socialism than the Democrats. ...demoralizing!


98 posted on 03/26/2006 4:32:04 AM PST by olezip
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To: LibertarianInExile
Amazing that a "Libertine in Exile" is always advocating a massive expansion in the size, scope and reach of the Federal Govt. Seems your actions don't match your pretensions LIE. Why is that?
99 posted on 03/26/2006 4:32:49 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I'll try to be NICER, if you will try to be SMARTER!)
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To: MNJohnnie

"Right L.I.E. only problem is you gave yourself away with your screen name."

Always eager to put forth reasoned debate, aren't you? I can always expect your contribution to civil discussion will be the equal of Clarence Darrow's...after the fatal heart attack, of course.


100 posted on 03/26/2006 4:39:12 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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