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Feinstein Calls Illegals Good 'Citizens', Lou Lets Loose
Today Show/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 03/28/2006 5:20:43 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

by Mark Finkelstein

March 28, 2006

In all its cacophony and moments of absurdity, this morning's Today show segment on immigration was a supremely edifying example of the confusion, high emotion and complexity of the immigration debate. Matters reached their Alice-in-Wonderland apotheosis when Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California was shown in a Senate committee arguing that illegal immigrants are good . . . 'citizens.' Said Feinstein:

"They pay taxes, their children are Americans, they go to schools, they're good citizens and they're needed."

This was in line with the fait accompli argument advanced by La Raza representative Janet Murguia. She referred to what she estimated as the 11-12 million illegal aliens in the country as "people are working in backbreaking work that nobody else wants to do in this country. We need to . . . understand that they are already part of this country."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; anarchy; borders; bordersecurity; campbellbrown; dobbs; feinstein; illegalaliens; immigration; laraza; loudobbs; mediabias; nbc; racism; todayshow
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To: LS

Free trade? I sure hope you put in your book that most Federal revenues came from tariffs for our first 150 years. Not from personal or business (corporate) taxes. If I'm wrong please clarify. I care but know your students don't give a s**t.


41 posted on 03/28/2006 5:55:37 AM PST by dennisw (I like Ike)
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To: maggief




Check out the billboard below with California scratched out & replaced with Mexico

42 posted on 03/28/2006 5:56:06 AM PST by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are familiar bedfellows)
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To: LS
Yep, and, ironically, it was not Adams, but Jefferson who USED that navy to fight the first "war on terror" against the Islamic Barbary States. (See Joseph Wheelan's book, "Jefferson's War").

From the halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli ...

43 posted on 03/28/2006 5:58:09 AM PST by dennisw (I like Ike)
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To: pawdoggie
"What's amazing to me is that these illegal-soon-to-be-citizens ABSOLUTELY HATE BUSH, even though he's the one trying to put them on a fast track to employment and citizenship. It seems as if their Left-Wing handlers have taught them that 'Republican means anti-Mexican'.

I doubt that Left-Wing handlers taught Mexicans to be anti-republican. If someone listens to the news, it's pretty simple to determine who is for you and who is against you.

44 posted on 03/28/2006 5:58:19 AM PST by blueberry12
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

To the liberal democrats any defiant illegal act equates to being a "good citizen".

In fact they support mexican flag wavers BECAUSE the socialists have the same philosophy as they do.


45 posted on 03/28/2006 5:58:49 AM PST by stopem (Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
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To: dennisw

Actually, for the first 80 years of the Republic, the vast, vast majority of government revenues came from land sales, not tariffs. Tariffs only made up the majority of revenues after the Civil War, and were such a huge headache and so hard to enforce that they gave us . . . ta da, the Federal Income Tax. Further, what research we have on the "protective" value of tariffs, esp. in the pre 1860 period, is that they had no effect at best and actually retarded our infant industries at worst. The textile industry, which was protected by Hamilton, in fact made products that were completely different than the Brits and never even used, or needed the protection. A debate still remains about iron, but by the 1850s, even that industry no longer needed tariffs, and our greatest steel growth occurred without tariffs.


46 posted on 03/28/2006 5:59:52 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Good citizen Democrat voters.
47 posted on 03/28/2006 6:01:04 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: maggief
If you think I’m illegal because I’m a Mexican, learn the true history because I’m in my homeland.

Sign held by one of the illegals in your pictures.

Let's talk about real history.

1. At most, Mexico controlled portions of this area for 27 years, from 1821 to 1848.

2. When they did have legal title, their actual control was always spotty and generally absent. It was a theoretical control.

3. They lost a big chunk of it to Texan revolutionists in 1836. If the Mexican Revolution which gave Mexico control of this area transferred title legitimately, then so did the Texas Revolution.

4. The United States has been in control of this area for 159 years, as compared to a maximum of 27 years for Mexico.

5. Mexican title to what is now the southwestern US was acquired by revolution from the King of Spain, who had acquired it by use of violence against the native inhabitants. Why does the Spanish King's conquering this area result in a more legitimate title than its conquest by the US?

48 posted on 03/28/2006 6:02:20 AM PST by Restorer
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To: redgolum; P-40

Can't read English?!?

;)


49 posted on 03/28/2006 6:03:29 AM PST by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: LS

Thanks Prof. I have no clever rejoinder and will digest and look into you words. Thanks again!


50 posted on 03/28/2006 6:03:45 AM PST by dennisw (I like Ike)
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To: Puppage
Not EVERY illegal comes here to work. That's a load of crap.

Some come just to have their babies here; some, to get a welfare free ride; some, to get free health care.

51 posted on 03/28/2006 6:04:43 AM PST by JoeGar
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To: Maceman; All

I agree with you.. You better have a good flamesuit!!!


52 posted on 03/28/2006 6:05:03 AM PST by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: robowombat

"It is not Xenophobia. It is Xenonausea."

I like that. Well said. I agree 100%.

There are those that would have us do away with nationalism, from both the left and right. I'm a nationalist and proud of it.


53 posted on 03/28/2006 6:06:35 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: LS

Can you tell me what demographic in California is truly Republican? I know nothing about CA.

If these are campus Repubs they are probably inevitably influenced by the 'anti-racism' atmosphere all around them and may not be out in the neighborhoods where the damage by illegals is being done, and so can countenance these ideas.


54 posted on 03/28/2006 6:06:54 AM PST by squarebarb
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To: LS

Have you ever read any of Eric Sloan's books? I loved them, they are great for children.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&field-author-exact=Eric%20Sloane&rank=-relevance%2C%2Bavailability%2C-daterank/103-5778999-8675058


55 posted on 03/28/2006 6:06:55 AM PST by dennisw (I like Ike)
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To: rep-always
It ain't only illegal Mexicans in CA... it's a swarm of illegal, central/south Americans of ALL nationalities in ALL states.

1.) Build 'The Wall'
2.) Prison time for those who hire illegals
3.) Deportation of ALL illegal criminals

Get those started and we'll discuss guest-workers!

56 posted on 03/28/2006 6:08:10 AM PST by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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To: maggief
Can't read English?!?

Que?
57 posted on 03/28/2006 6:08:31 AM PST by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: bella1

I usually tivo Lou Dobbs every day at 6PM on the east coast. He has been all over the illegal alien issue for a long time. He is one of the few in the media that has the guts to even utter a word about this topic. He is a hero.


58 posted on 03/28/2006 6:09:10 AM PST by Buffettfan
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To: P-40

LOL


59 posted on 03/28/2006 6:10:17 AM PST by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: johnny7
1.) Build 'The Wall'

They can get Jamie Gorelick to handle that one. She builds good walls.
60 posted on 03/28/2006 6:10:31 AM PST by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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