To: governsleastgovernsbest
"They pay taxes, their children are Americans
She's an idiot!
The Constitution of the United States does not grant citizenship at birth to just anyone who happens to be born within American borders. It is the allegiance (complete jurisdiction) of the child’s birth parents at the time of birth that determines the child’s citizenship--not geographical location. If the United States does not have complete jurisdiction, for example, to compel a child’s parents to Jury Duty–then the U.S. does not have the total, complete jurisdiction demanded by the Fourteenth Amendment to make their child a citizen of the United States by birth. How could it possibly be any other way? The framers succeeded in their desire to define what persons are, or are not, citizens of the United States. They also succeeded in making both their intent and construction clear for future generations of courts and government. Whether our government or courts will start to honor and uphold the supreme law of the land for which they are obligated to by oath, is another very disturbing matter.
http://idexer.com/citizenship.htm
To: Master of Orion
The Constitution of the United States does not grant citizenship at birth to just anyone who happens to be born within American borders. It is the allegiance (complete jurisdiction) of the childs birth parents at the time of birth that determines the childs citizenship--not geographical locationI pointed this out in another thread. I cannot for the life of me understand why the US confers citizenship on children of illegal aliens.
In the years ahead, if there is ever a reason for a draft, any child of illegal aliens that got his citizenship at birth can claim exemption from the draft. While we confer citizenship on someone, we cannot force them to accept it. All they will have to do is tell the US that they have no jurisdiction over them because their parents were not citizens at their birth. It's like a Catch-22 - we made them citizens and say we have to give them all the rights of citizens, but they don't have to accept the obligations of a citizen because we have no jurisdiction over them. I'm sure this could also be applied to other things like jury duty.
122 posted on
03/28/2006 7:30:39 AM PST by
Elyse
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