Feinstein Calls Illegals Good 'Citizens', Lou Lets Loose

Today Show/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

[governsleastgovernsbest]

by Mark Finkelstein

March 28, 2006

In all its cacophony and moments of absurdity, this morning's Today show segment on immigration was a supremely edifying example of the confusion, high emotion and complexity of the immigration debate. Matters reached their Alice-in-Wonderland apotheosis when Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California was shown in a Senate committee arguing that illegal immigrants are good . . . 'citizens.' Said Feinstein:

"They pay taxes, their children are Americans, they go to schools, they're good citizens and they're needed."

This was in line with the fait accompli argument advanced by La Raza representative Janet Murguia. She referred to what she estimated as the 11-12 million illegal aliens in the country as "people are working in backbreaking work that nobody else wants to do in this country. We need to . . . understand that they are already part of this country."

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Pandering to the second largest voting block. Expect Je$$e and $harpton to do something $oon to draw attention back to themselves. The lack of attention must be killing them.

[Proud_USA_Republican]

according to Frankstein, they are just showing their american pride......./s

[WhiteGuy]

Sounds like a bushism.....................

the sentiment is the same too...................

[brownsfan]

"He's actually right about that. Too many American citizens need to be reminded that there is NO SUCH THING as a right to a job."

Like I said... there are those on the left and the right that would do away with nationalism. Different motivations, same net result.

Bottomline is, the average American is screwed.

[poobear]

"... they're good citizens and they're needed to vote illegally for Democrats."

THERE fixed!

[maggief]

More American pride ... /sarc.

[ohioman]

Since you openly side with the illegals, you are part of the problem. I only wish you the worst in life and may you feel more comfortable with your brethren over at DU.

[Nathan Zachary]

"Imagine the futre of America when we become a mixture of Canadian socialism and Mexican feudalism."

Other than Canada's crumbling medicare system, which is changing as we speak to a multi-tiered system, how is Canada nore "socialist" than the USA?

We have welfare, they have welfare, we have old age security, they have old age security. We have medicaid. We have Unemployment insurance, which is actually easier to collect than unemployment insurance is in Canada.

I hate to burst your bubble, but we are just as "socialist" as Canada is. We caught up to them and surpassed them ages ago.

[EQAndyBuzz]

We could have solved Californias problems with one MOAB.

[brownsfan]

"As I say, I'm for free trade, but their free-trade agenda equals NO national security."

What I see of the free trade crowd tells me profit trumps EVERYTHING. Need to destabilize the country in order to increase profits? Do it! Need to put Americans out of work and damage our local economy to increase profits? Do it!

Nothing, absolutely nothing outweighs the imperitive to increase profits. (If you make enough money, you can move to whatever country isn't in tatters by the time you're done.)

[brownsfan]

"I find nothing wrong with this statement."

And therein lies the problem. Start with a definition:

illegal - prohibited by law or by official or accepted rules;

So, you support ignoring the law? Now, if I break into your house, and setup a little place in your den... you know, sleeping bag, hot stove. I'm illegal, but don't I have a right to live and be comfortable?

[Master of Orion]

"They pay taxes, their children are Americans

She's an idiot!

The Constitution of the United States does not grant citizenship at birth to just anyone who happens to be born within American borders. It is the allegiance (complete jurisdiction) of the child’s birth parents at the time of birth that determines the child’s citizenship--not geographical location. If the United States does not have complete jurisdiction, for example, to compel a child’s parents to Jury Duty–then the U.S. does not have the total, complete jurisdiction demanded by the Fourteenth Amendment to make their child a citizen of the United States by birth. How could it possibly be any other way? The framers succeeded in their desire to define what persons are, or are not, citizens of the United States. They also succeeded in making both their intent and construction clear for future generations of courts and government. Whether our government or courts will start to honor and uphold the supreme law of the land for which they are obligated to by oath, is another very disturbing matter.

http://idexer.com/citizenship.htm

[brownsfan]

"What's amazing to me is that these illegal-soon-to-be-citizens ABSOLUTELY HATE BUSH, even though he's the one trying to put them on a fast track to employment and citizenship."

And that would help prove the point, the profit motive outweighs everything. The republicans are willing to slit their own political throats in order to maximize profits for businesses that wish to use, (abuse?), illegals.

[Restorer]

With all due respect, that's not how the free market works.

If I'm a building contractor and hire only legal aliens and citizens, my labor costs and therefore my price will be significantly higher than my competition, which is willing to use illegals.

I will not get jobs and I will soon be out of business if I don't follow their lead.

This is exactly what happened to a good friend of mine. His price was undercut 35% by contractors using illegal labor.

Not all those who hire illegals are doing it just to make an extra buck. Many are doing it just to survive in business.

They way out of this is to create new rules that all businesses must follow.

[loveliberty2]

And what is meant by the term, "citizen" these days? What about those millions of immigrants who have worked hard to meet the law's requirements that qualified them for their becoming "American citizens" and have taken great pride in that accomplishment?

Such a comment by a United States Senator, aside from diminishing those honorable immigrants' accomplishments, is also an affront to the concept of "the rule of law."

[blueberry12]

Look, you have a problem.

The real enemy is not Mexico. It's the muslim religion. The Mexicans didn't cause 9/11. The muslims did it. You seem to have something mixed up. The Mexicans are simple hard-working people who just want to have a life.

[bill1952]

Even more

[buck61]

This proves how much people in America have lost their education values, are maybe, what history teachers are teaching in the schools.
America has deposited a lot of blood on it's soil and the soil of other country's to maintain its freedom it enjoys today.
Mexico is taking America back, one person at a time. The Mexicans act as though it's their right to just come and be a part of its citizenry without going through the process of legality.
What ever protection we had in America is now gone, we have
been sold out by our reps. and other government Agnese's.

[jbenedic2]

Then they need to do it LEGALLY.

[bill1952]

>The real enemy is not Mexico

Right, and reconquista is not the offical policy of most Mexican Politicians.

Look, you have a problem...