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Bush burns his base on the borders
Star-Ledger ^ | March 30, 2006 | Paul Mulshine

Posted on 03/30/2006 2:31:49 PM PST by Irontank

Imagine that you and several thousand of your closest friends decided to sneak into Mexico illegally. And imagine you then gathered in one of the largest cities, waving American flags and blocking traffic. Imagine you demanded in English that the Mexicans change their laws to accommodate you.

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Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado is engaging in what amounts to open warfare with the White House on the issue. His aide Will Adams told me yesterday that Tancredo and other House conservatives intend to block any bill that contains either amnesty or guest worker provisions.

....Bush always has had ample authority to solve a relatively manageable problem with illegal immigration.

"I'm not sure what about this guy is conservative anymore," says Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies. "He appointed a couple good judges and that was it -- and he almost blew one of those chances."

Krikorian was alluding to the Harriet Miers fiasco, one of a tri fecta of Bush blunders that have alerted conservatives to his true nature. The second was the Dubai ports controversy. The third is this push for immigration amnesty.

Krikorian advises Bush to cut his losses and accept a tough enforcement bill. Once that 700-mile fence is up on the southern border, Bush might revive his push for that amnesty that he re fuses to call an amnesty.

"A lot of ordinary Americans might swallow it if it were presented as a second step after enforcement was in place and if it weren't demanded as a right but as a result of illegals begging the forgiveness of the American people," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nj.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bushrobusteza; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration; mexico; mulshine
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To: chris1
I know you think you are doing noble work by defending almost anything that comes from the WH,

LOL!! Because I think the Libertarian Party is made up of wackos, I'm defending the White House?

I haven't defended any immigration plan. But I do know this: no bill is going to pass this year because neither the House nor the Senate really want one.

141 posted on 03/30/2006 4:50:43 PM PST by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: Brian Allen

The Bush Bots should be very proud of their accomplishments.


142 posted on 03/30/2006 4:52:46 PM PST by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: Irontank
I'm jusdt going to post this here because it is just so good - and especially relevant.

Everybody should be aware of this because this is exactly what is happening:

Many know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Recently there was an immigration-overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor named Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

1. "Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bi-cultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual.

"The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: 'The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

2. Lamm went on: "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

3. "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multi-ethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.'"

4. Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

5. "Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

6. "My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

7. "My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other."

"A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshiped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to over come two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- >From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'unum,' we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

8. "Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits ~ make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate."

"Having made America a bilingual/bi-cultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

9. In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.'

American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

Governor Lamm, walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.

143 posted on 03/30/2006 4:53:15 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: Vicomte13
You'll see the turnaround in November: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi.

If that happens, (and it could) 2007 will be all about impeachment.

144 posted on 03/30/2006 4:53:18 PM PST by IndyTiger
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To: Deconstructionist
The real divide is between nationalists and globalists. The globalist elite controls both major parties and they use their power to tear down the nation-state.

There's two types of so-called globalists and they're not interchangeable and cannot be pigeonholed with one another. There are globalist/capitalists and there are globalist/communists. if capitalism can be on the march around the globe then I am all onboard.

The more applicable divide - in other words, the most divisive and therefore even more real divide - is between the statists (Right and Left) and those of the limited government ideologies.

145 posted on 03/30/2006 4:55:29 PM PST by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: Jasper; Icelander; B4Ranch

Wonder when folks'll wake up that Fox and every other member of his steenking gang looks like the dead and decadent lying looting thieving Euro-peon colonialists from whom he and they are descended?

And that every one of those he and his racist gang's corruption-caused conscripts into his criminal alien invasion forces looks like a Central or Southern Indian?

Doesn't our permitting this obscenity, this rascism-propelled invasion, make our state and feral gummints accessories after the fact of the original crime?

In addition, that is, to their already effectively being the modern era's most prolific slave and indentured servant traders.


146 posted on 03/30/2006 4:59:32 PM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: B4Ranch

<< The Bush Bots should be very proud of their accomplishments. >>

What do we do? You and I?


147 posted on 03/30/2006 5:04:39 PM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: antaresequity

I'm sure that is next. The Puerto Ricans tried already.


148 posted on 03/30/2006 5:08:53 PM PST by SQUID
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To: PRND21

Good someone needs to stand up for the majority in America.


149 posted on 03/30/2006 5:11:30 PM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Brian Allen

"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it."
- Mark Twain


151 posted on 03/30/2006 5:20:30 PM PST by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: Thunder90
You do know that Hispanics, especially Mexicans, vote overwhelmingly Democrat.

Of course. I was referring to those republicans that still support Bush in his destructive policies.

152 posted on 03/30/2006 5:22:19 PM PST by raybbr
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To: Icelander

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/30/dobbs.cancun/index.html


153 posted on 03/30/2006 5:29:58 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Popman

Surrender someone else's country.


154 posted on 03/30/2006 5:32:52 PM PST by dagnabbit (George Bush is so fed up with illegals that he's going to ask them please to leave in six years.)
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To: B4Ranch

<< "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and your government when it deserves it." -- Mark Twain >>

Count me in.

Seems like these guys want civil war.

Tough for them, though, that there's nothing civil about their criminal-alien invasion.

Nor yet about a couple million -- or so, we got plenty -- armed-to-the-eyeballs red-blooded American Men who're challenged long enough and arrogantly enough by criminal invaders.

Blessings - Brian


155 posted on 03/30/2006 5:34:22 PM PST by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: Irontank
"I'm not sure what about this guy is conservative anymore," says Mark Krikorian of the Center for Immigration Studies. "He appointed a couple good judges and that was it -- and he almost blew one of those chances

A succinct description of our failed President.

156 posted on 03/30/2006 5:37:26 PM PST by dagnabbit (George Bush is so fed up with illegals, he's going ask them to fill out the citizenship long form.)
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To: Brian Allen

check your mail


157 posted on 03/30/2006 5:40:09 PM PST by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: catholicfreeper
oh well, no compromise and the result no bill. Its is beyond me how people dont see this. Now nothing will occur and the problems will continue to get worse.

Has it entered your head that neither Bush nor the cheap labor lobby actually want the problem solved at all ? They flatly demand a guest worker program. Guest worker is to border control as aviation fuel is to fire fighting.

158 posted on 03/30/2006 5:52:13 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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To: yellowdoghunter

Just how cheap will their labir be when they can organize and demand more?


159 posted on 03/30/2006 5:53:42 PM PST by Sybeck1 (Desoto county MS Freeper)
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To: courtinwi

So importing millions of dirt poor, unskilled people will expand the tax base ? Are you demented ? They will impose massive burdens on social services that would otherwise go to baby boomers.


160 posted on 03/30/2006 5:54:23 PM PST by Sam the Sham (A conservative party tough on illegal immigration could carry California in 2008)
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