Posted on 03/31/2006 7:49:32 PM PST by Pikamax
With the immigration debate raging in Congress and immigration supporters spilling out into the streets, the latest Time Poll finds a lopsided majority of the American public, 72%, favor a "guest worker" program in a head-to-head match-up over a House bill that would criminalize illegal immigration.
The latest Time Poll of 1,004 adults, conducted March 29-30, finds that even a large majority of border state residents, 78%, favor the guest worker approach over expelling illegals. Large majorities of Republicans (66%), Democrats (75%), and Independents (73%) favor the guest worker approach.
Favor Tougher Border Security Too As a fractured Congress debates immigration reform, two-thirds (68%) say that illegal immigration is an extremely/very serious problem in the United States. A large majority believe the U.S. is not doing enough to secure its borders (82%). While Americans overwhelmingly favor the guest worker option, they also want a crackdown at the border and stiff penalties for employers who hire illegals.
The debate has Americans voicing sometimes contradictory opinions. A small majority (51%) still think the U.S. would be "better off" by deporting all illegal immigrants compared to a little less than two-in-five (38%) who think the U.S. would be "worse off." Americans would also limit illegals' access to government services, such as driver's licenses (69% not allow), health care/food stamps (75% not allow), and attending public schools (51% not allow). Support Beyond Guest Workers Most Americans would allow illegal immigrants to gain citizenship under certain circumstances.
Demonstrations Backfire? Partisanship and Geography Differences
Other Political Fallout As President Bush meets in Cancun on immigration and trade issues with the leaders of Mexico and Canada, Bush's overall approval rating sits at 37%. A majority disapprove of his handling of illegal immigration (56% disapprove - 25% approve). His disapproval score on immigration is down five points from January's 61% disapprove 24% approve. Almost equal numbers of Americans are more likely to vote for (29%) or vote against (28%) a candidate who favors criminalizing illegal immigration. More than 1 in 3 (37%) say it wouldn't have much effect on their vote. Republicans in Congress are more likely to feel the heat on this issue. Republicans (37%) are more likely than Democrats (24%) to support a candidate for Congress who favors making illegal immigration a crime.
The biggest concern for Americans regarding illegal immigration is the drain on taxpayers' dollars to provide services such as health care and education to them (61% "very concerned"). Concern is higher among Republicans (67%) and Southerners (65%). Other major concerns about illegal immigrants are that they:
Methodology This Time Magazine poll was conducted by telephone between March 29-30, 2006 among a national random sample of 1,004 adults, age 18 and older throughout America. The margin of error for the entire sample is approximately +/- 3 percentage points. The margin of error is higher for subgroups. Surveys are subject to other error sources as well, including sampling coverage error, recording error, and respondent error. The Poll's partisan breakdown is as follows: Schulman, Ronca, & Bucuvalas (SRBI) Public Affairs designed the survey and conducted all interviewing. The full Time questionnaire and trend data may be found at: www.srbi.com.
Please Tell Me Which Comes Closest To Your Views
% Favor
Total (%)
Republican (%)
Democrat (%)
Independent (%)
Allow Illegal Immigrants To Get Temporary Work Visas
72
66
75
73
Make Illegal Immigration a Crime And Not Allow Anyone Who Entered The Country Illegaly to Work or Stay In the U.S.
25
32
22
24
About 2 in 3 (67%) are aware of this week's demonstrations by immigrants and immigrant rights activists in a number of cities. The demonstrations likely had little effect currying support for their pro-immigrant position. Among the people who were aware of the demonstrations, only 14% reported that the protests made them more supportive of rights for illegal immigrants, while almost three times as many, 40%, said that the demonstrations make them less supportive. Almost half (44%) said that the demonstrations had no effect on their stance.
Partisan differences complicate the issue further. However, these are mainly differences in degree:
Do You Favor or Oppose the Following to Deal with Illegal Immigration?
% Favor
Total (%)
Republican (%)
Democrat (%)
Allowing illegal immigrants to register as guest workers
79
79
77
Allowing illegal immigrants in the US, citizenship if they learn English, have a job and pay taxes
78
73
82
Granting temporary visas to immigrants not in the US so they can do seasonal/temporary work and return to home countries
72
72
71
Providing and enforcing penalties for employers convicted of hiring illegal immigrants
71
77
66
Stopping illegal immigrants from entering the US by taking whatever steps necessary to guard the border
62
71
54
Deporting all illegal immigrants
47
58
45
How Concerned Are You About Each Item Concerning Illegal Immigrants?
% Very Concerned
Total (%)
Republican (%)
Democrat (%)
Independent (%)
Costs taxpayers too much money to provide them with services
61
67
57
61
They increase the likelihood of terrorism in the U.S.
44
52
40
44
American workers can't afford to work for the same low wages as illegal immigrants
43
43
43
42
They increase the amount of crime
40
46
38
39
They take jobs away from Americans
35
36
37
30
There are too many people in the U.S.
33
30
34
33
Weaken American way of life
29
33
25
28
32% Democrat
28% Republican
25% Independent
Check the record of the SLimes polling companies. They also said Querry would win the presidential elections.
yes, I favor a guest worker program too - if it REPLACES the current system of border crossers who are employed illegally by US businesses. that's the key word - REPLACES the current situation we have now.
ask people the poll question - if the guest worker program is simply ADDED to the situation we have now, and see if they still support it.
All media polls are meaningless. All of them.
The first part doesn't mesh well with the rest of the results. I favor a guest worker program, but not the BS coming from Kennedy/McCain
Exactly. I'm with you there.
Im for building a wall if we cant secure the borders well enough with manpower. (this should be priority)
I have always favored some sort of guest worker program (but not for those here already illegally).
I do NOT support amnesty.
Rule #1: Never believe a poll published by TIME.
This poll was conducted by telephone. It's probably not statistically valid.
This one does not appear to reflect reality neither... the numbers are much higher than what this poll show--->> Stopping illegal immigrants from entering the US by taking whatever steps necessary to guard the border

I don't favor a guest peon program.
And TIME is a liberal rag. So much for their poll.
Yes 100% of illegal aliens favor a guest worker program over deportation...
This poll is tricky. Take these:
"Allowing illegal immigrants to register as guest workers"
"Deporting all illegal immigrants"
Note the word "all" is attached to the latter, not the former. Erase the "all" you'll get a different result. Add "all" to the first you will get a different result.
What does this mean?
What is illegal that is not also criminal?
Slime Mag spinning and spewing propaganda through its polling.
My version is that a guest worker MUST
* Have a full background check and get certified. They would then be able to cross the border for extended periods of time with minimum hassle.
* Any child born of a guest worker would be a citizen of the country of the parents citizenship.
* All employers of guest workers must report all employees to a government agency.
* All employers of guest workers must abide by the same employee/employer rules at the rest of the country.
* All guest workers that commit crimes will have their guest worker status revoked and will be returned to their country of citizenship at the cost of the originating country.
* Any one entering the country that has had a guest worker certification revoked will be sent to an outsourced prison (India or China) for life without parole.
* Anyone entering the country without proper certifications, visas, or other federally official authorization shall be sent to an outsourced prison for no less than 10 years.
"It's bullshit. I don't know a single person who favors this."
I don't. But it's tricky polling. I support some guest worker provisions, limited to agricultural jobs which have long needed some labor. I see the "felon" provision as unnecessary. I don't think we should deport parents of American children unless the birth was recent. Yet I strongly want deportation and border enforcement and workplace enforcement. And get rid of the anchor baby provisions.
There's little provision given for just what rules we have. And nowhere in these polls does it talk about how the Senate bills not only legalize "all" illegals but increase immigration and green card limits.
The headline is very misleading to the rest of the results and almost a manipulated lie if you can trust a poll
BTW i don't trust polls !
OKay....so "Time" (who NEVER gets anything right) conducts a poll in Mexico City.
We're supposed to be "impressed" with this?
Excuse me for being a bit skeptical on this one......
REMEMBER THE ALAMO!!
REMEMBER GOLIAD!!
Within 5 years time will be a 2 page hand out . What a pathetic attempt . I suppose we should be happy , this may be the first time they agree with bush .
This said "MAKE Illegal immigration a crime" it's already a crime. Illegal means a crime, doesn't it?
This said "MAKE Illegal immigration a crime" it's already a crime. Illegal means a crime, doesn't it?
Makes you wonder if half the prostesors even know what they are protesting. If they're watching cnn, they had probably concluded that the US may stop immigration. Period. LOL
It is illegal to drive 50 mph in a 30 mph zone.
You are not a criminal for doing so.
Jorge sez; Build the wall THEN give us a guest worker program!
My version is that a guest worker MUST
* Have a full background check and get certified. They would then be able to cross the border for extended periods of time with minimum hassle.
* Any child born of a guest worker would be a citizen of the country of the parents citizenship.
* All employers of guest workers must report all employees to a government agency.
* All employers of guest workers must abide by the same employee/employer rules at the rest of the country.
* All guest workers that commit crimes will have their guest worker status revoked and will be returned to their country of citizenship at the cost of the originating country.
* Any one entering the country that has had a guest worker certification revoked will be sent to an outsourced prison (India or China) for life without parole.
* Anyone entering the country without proper certifications, visas, or other federally official authorization shall be sent to an outsourced prison for no less than 10 years.
AND NO ILLEGALS ALREADY IN USA ARE ELIGIBLE
The only way we can win is if we keep calling and writing our congressman and Senators.
Quinnipiac University poll. Feb. 21-28, 2006. N=1,892 registered voters nationwide. MoE ± 2.3. |
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Nice.
A large majority believe the U.S. is not doing enough to secure its borders (82%).
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March 30, 2006--As Congress considers legislation to reform the immigration process, the nation remains divided on how to proceed. By a 65% to 25% margin, Americans say it is more important to reduce the number of illegal immigrants entering the U.S. than it is to expand legal opportunities for foreign workers to get jobs in the U.S. However, that doesn't translate into an overwhelming public desire to force illegal aliens out of the country. Thirty-nine percent (39%) of Americans say there should be some way for illegal aliens with a job to stay in the U.S. legally. Forty-four percent (44%) disagree while 17% are not sure. Fully a quarter (25%) of those who believe reducing illegal immigration is the top priority also believe that some way should be found to keep illegal immigrants in the country legally. Earlier surveys on immigration have found support for building a barrier along the Mexican border and positive attitudes towards citizen patrols along the border. Another survey found that most Americans consider current immigration laws a threat to both national security and the economy. Three-fourths of all Americans believe it is too easy for people from other countries to enter the United States.
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This was actually the original plan. I'm not sure if it still is. I hope so. It's the plan I support
Enforcement on the border has to be first priority, however
Exactly. Unfortunately the illegals already here are not going anywhere so we have time to deal with that after we plug the holes in our borders.
You know what would be a lot more effective than calling our Senators? Recalling some of them.
I notice that Time is presuming that the guest worker program is for illegals that are already here. I do not favor that, nor amnesty for illegals.
I do favor a guest worker program for those who are not here, but want to come here to work for a limited time to work. I am not against those who come here legally, even temporarily, having an opportunity to later become citizens.
Along with a guest worker program for those who want to work here legally, I would demand that anyone who has been deported from here for being here illegally in the past, present or future not be able to get in the guest worker program or get any other visa at all, ever.
I can't believe I forgot that one. I must be getting tired.
The only way we can win is if we keep calling and writing our congressman and Senators.
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm
what a biased poll
"What is illegal that is not also criminal?"
Good question. Here is another question. How can a bill criminalize illegal immigration? Isn't illegal immigration already criminal?
32% Democrat
28% Republican
25% Independent
Speaking of statistically valid - I guess the 15% not accounted for in the poll population are illegal aliens!
It would change the status of the crime from a MISDEMEANOR to a FELONY. That is what all these pricks are protesting. Sensenbrenner wants the status changed and jail time mandated for all those who attempt to cross the border AFTER the law is passed. This is, of course, assuming that we do whatever is necessary to seal the border!!!
This poll is nearly 180 degrees from previous polls on the subject.
good snag.....what is the technical name for agenda driven research or polls?
I heard Liddy use a term for research or polls that set out to prove a preconcieved notion wholly subjective while claiming to be objective
that covers nearly all social academics research these days
it was a nice terminology...wish I could recall it
Neither did Time mention the Bracero Program, instituted in 1942 to let Mexicans enter the country to do farm work, when American boys were going into the Army to fight WW II. That program lasted until 1964, providing most of the agricultural workers in California's farm belt.
Nor do they have a clue about the details of the Bracero Program. Mexico then controlled its own side of the border. Mexico and the US jointly agreed on how many workers would come in. There were provisions to guarantee that they would return to Mexico afterward. And none of the time they spent here counted toward gaining US citizenship, because at all times they were counted as Mexican citizens.
No there's a "guest worker" system that worked. And it was the Democrats in Congress who insisted that it be abolished. IIRC, the total workers allowed was less than a million at the height of that program.
Congressman Billybob
Thank you, Congressman! I had TOTALLY forgotten about that program. I grew up on a farm and there were a few of those guys who worked on our neighbor's places. You are right, though, it worked well and they all went home at the end of harvest!
We ought to have a Guest Worker program for those that will play by the rules, the ones that don't ought to be shipped to US Army boot camp. After successful graduation they should be sent to Iraq to rebuild that country for a 1 year tour of duty and then honorably discharged at the end of the year tour of duty and granted citizenship...
Interest that RATS think that Illegals take American jobs more than Republicans do and that RATS are less inclined to want people who hire illegals to face penalties. The last sort of proves that Republicans like Illegals for low wages false.
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