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To: Wonder Warthog

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Sorry, but I ain't buyin' it. Bush's proposal and the Senate bill both allow legalization of those already here, which is just plain NOT ACCEPTABLE. If any legislation offers "a path to citizenship" OTHER than "go home and get in the LEGAL immigration process line", it is bogus.
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If we presume that a legal immigration process line exists in Phoenix rather than the border, we are talking about a few hundred miles as the only difference. That legal immigration process line can be computerized to accelerate the activity and expand the numbers to arrange that "the back of the line" equates to about 4 hrs of delay.

So given this, do the 400 miles really matter? These people are criminals and are being criminally punished with a fine and strict . . . more or less parole requirements. When they have paid their criminal debt to society, they are just like people who pay a traffic ticket -- lawbreakers who paid the price and are now allowed to continue their lives.

So . . . if the priority is what Bush says it is, Border Security, this seems to work. And don't reply that Bush lied and people died (when your cover slips) because it doesn't matter what Bush's preference would be. If the money is allocated to Border Security, it will get spent and then paranoia would require you to believe that an entire department has no one in it willing to go to the news media and tell them they have been instructed to get paid and explicitly not arrest the influx.


53 posted on 04/02/2006 9:30:20 AM PDT by Owen
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To: Owen
Traffic scofflaws?!

You've got to be kidding me.

Is that what you really believe these invaders are?

61 posted on 04/02/2006 9:45:26 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Owen
The current law states that the penalty for crossing the borders illegally is $5000 and deportation. Not $1000 and you get to wait here for a green card.

You may have a point about the 40% who did crossed at some legal port of entry.

You still have to remember that a large number these illegals, whether they entered legally or not, have engaged in crimes worse than overstaying their VISA, tax fraud and evasion to name but two.
Each of these carry penalties slightly stiffer than a $1000 dollar fine, in fact both are felonies.

The bottom line is the Senate and Bush's plans are nothing more than amnesty, that is %100 unacceptable.

The illegal aliens have to leave the country, return to their own and file proper entry paperwork with the US consulate. That is the only amnesty I am willing to offer.
124 posted on 04/02/2006 12:09:15 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (Borders. Language. Culture. AAA-0)
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