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Posted on 04/02/2006 4:48:49 PM PDT by Star Traveler
Meeting Doctor Doom
Forrest M. Mims III Copyright 2006 by Forrest M. Mims III.
There is always something special about science meetings. The 109th meeting of the Texas Academy of Science at Lamar University in Beaumont on 3-5 March 2006 was especially exciting for me, because a student and his professor presented the results of a DNA study I suggested to them last year. How fulfilling to see the baldcypress ( Taxodium distichum ) leaves we collected last summer and my tree ring photographs transformed into a first class scientific presentation that's nearly ready to submit to a scientific journal (Brian Iken and Dr. Deanna McCullough, "Bald Cypress of the Texas Hill Country: Taxonomically Unique?" 109th Meeting of the Texas Academy of Science Program and Abstracts [ PDF ], Poster P59, p. 84, 2006).
But there was a gravely disturbing side to that otherwise scientifically significant meeting, for I watched in amazement as a few hundred members of the Texas Academy of Science rose to their feet and gave a standing ovation to a speech that enthusiastically advocated the elimination of 90 percent of Earth's population by airborne Ebola. The speech was given by Dr. Eric R. Pianka (Fig. 1), the University of Texas evolutionary ecologist and lizard expert who the Academy named the 2006 Distinguished Texas Scientist.
Something curious occurred a minute before Pianka began speaking. An official of the Academy approached a video camera operator at the front of the auditorium and engaged him in animated conversation. The camera operator did not look pleased as he pointed the lens of the big camera to the ceiling and slowly walked away.
This curious incident came to mind a few minutes later when Professor Pianka began his speech by explaining that the general public is not yet ready to hear what he was about to tell us. Because of many years of experience as a writer and editor, Pianka's strange introduction and the TV camera incident raised a red flag in my mind. Suddenly I forgot that I was a member of the Texas Academy of Science and chairman of its Environmental Science Section. Instead, I grabbed a notepad so I could take on the role of science reporter.
One of Pianka's earliest points was a condemnation of anthropocentrism, or the idea that humankind occupies a privileged position in the Universe. He told a story about how a neighbor asked him what good the lizards are that he studies. He answered, What good are you?
Pianka hammered his point home by exclaiming, We're no better than bacteria!
Pianka then began laying out his concerns about how human overpopulation is ruining the Earth. He presented a doomsday scenario in which he claimed that the sharp increase in human population since the beginning of the industrial age is devastating the planet. He warned that quick steps must be taken to restore the planet before it's too late.
Saving the Earth with Ebola
Professor Pianka said the Earth as we know it will not survive without drastic measures. Then, and without presenting any data to justify this number, he asserted that the only feasible solution to saving the Earth is to reduce the population to 10 percent of the present number.
He then showed solutions for reducing the world's population in the form of a slide depicting the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. War and famine would not do, he explained. Instead, disease offered the most efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if the population crisis is to be solved.
Pianka then displayed a slide showing rows of human skulls, one of which had red lights flashing from its eye sockets.
AIDS is not an efficient killer, he explained, because it is too slow. His favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world's population is airborne Ebola ( Ebola Reston ), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years. However, Professor Pianka did not mention that Ebola victims die a slow and torturous death as the virus initiates a cascade of biological calamities inside the victim that eventually liquefy the internal organs.
After praising the Ebola virus for its efficiency at killing, Pianka paused, leaned over the lectern, looked at us and carefully said, We've got airborne 90 percent mortality in humans. Killing humans. Think about that.
With his slide of human skulls towering on the screen behind him, Professor Pianka was deadly serious. The audience that had been applauding some of his statements now sat silent.
After a dramatic pause, Pianka returned to politics and environmentalism. But he revisited his call for mass death when he reflected on the oil situation.
And the fossil fuels are running out, he said, so I think we may have to cut back to two billion, which would be about one-third as many people. So the oil crisis alone may require eliminating two-third's of the world's population.
How soon must the mass dying begin if Earth is to be saved? Apparently fairly soon, for Pianka suggested he might be around when the killer disease goes to work. He was born in 1939, and his lengthy obituary appears on his web site.
When Pianka finished his remarks, the audience applauded. It wasn't merely a smattering of polite clapping that audiences diplomatically reserve for poor or boring speakers. It was a loud, vigorous and enthusiastic applause.
Questions for Dr. Doom
Then came the question and answer session, in which Professor Pianka stated that other diseases are also efficient killers.
The audience laughed when he said, You know, the bird flu's good, too. They laughed again when he proposed, with a discernable note of glee in his voice that, We need to sterilize everybody on the Earth.
After noting that the audience did not represent the general population, a questioner asked, "What kind of reception have you received as you have presented these ideas to other audiences that are not representative of us?"
Pianka replied, "I speak to the converted!"
Pianka responded to more questions by condemning politicians in general and Al Gore by name, because they do not address the population problem and "...because they deceive the public in every way they can to stay in power."
He spoke glowingly of the police state in China that enforces their one-child policy. He said, "Smarter people have fewer kids." He said those who don't have a conscience about the Earth will inherit the Earth, "...because those who care make fewer babies and those that didn't care made more babies." He said we will evolve as uncaring people, and "I think IQs are falling for the same reason, too."
With this, the questioning was over. Immediately almost every scientist, professor and college student present stood to their feet and vigorously applauded the man who had enthusiastically endorsed the elimination of 90 percent of the human population. Some even cheered. Dozens then mobbed the professor at the lectern to extend greetings and ask questions. It was necessary to wait a while before I could get close enough to take some photographs (Fig. 1).
I was assigned to judge a paper in a grad student competition after the speech. On the way, three professors dismissed Pianka as a crank. While waiting to enter the competition room, a group of a dozen Lamar University students expressed outrage over the Pianka speech.
Yet five hours later, the distinguished leaders of the Texas Academy of Science presented Pianka with a plaque in recognition of his being named 2006 Distinguished Texas Scientist. When the banquet hall filled with more than 400 people responded with enthusiastic applause, I walked out in protest.
Corresponding with Dr. Doom
Recently I exchanged a number of e-mails with Pianka. I pointed out to him that one might infer his death wish was really aimed at Africans, for Ebola is found only in Central Africa. He replied that Ebola does not discriminate, kills everyone and could spread to Europe and the the Americas by a single infected airplane passenger.
In his last e-mail, Pianka wrote that I completely fail to understand his arguments. So I did a check and found verification of my interpretation of his remarks on his own web site. In a student evaluation of a 2004 course he taught, one of Professor Pianka's students wrote, "Though I agree that convervation [sic] biology is of utmost importance to the world, I do not think that preaching that 90% of the human population should die of ebola [sic] is the most effective means of encouraging conservation awareness." (Go here and scroll down to just before the Fall 2005 evaluation section near the end.)
Yet the majority of his student reviews were favorable, with one even saying, I worship Dr. Pianka.
The 45-minute lecture before the Texas Academy of Science converted a university biology senior into a Pianka disciple, who then published a blog that seriously supports Pianka's mass death wish.
Let me now remove my reporter's hat for a moment and tell you what I think. We live in dangerous times. The national security of many countries is at risk. Science has become tainted by highly publicized cases of misconduct and fraud.
Must now we worry that a Pianka-worshipping former student might someday become a professional biologist or physician with access to the most deadly strains of viruses and bacteria? I believe that airborne Ebola is unlikely to threaten the world outside of Central Africa. But scientists have regenerated the 1918 Spanish flu virus that killed 50 million people. There is concern that small pox might someday return. And what other terrible plagues are waiting out there in the natural world to cross the species barrier and to which scientists will one day have access?
Meanwhile, I still can't get out of my mind the pleasant spring day in Texas when a few hundred scientists of the Texas Academy of Science gave a standing ovation for a speaker who they heard advocate for the slow and torturous death of over five billion human beings.
Forrest M. Mims III is Chairman of the Environmental Science Section of the Texas Academy of Science, and the editor of The Citizen Scientist. He and his science are featured online at www.forrestmims.org and www.sunandsky.org. The views expressed herein are his own and do not represent the official views of the Texas Academy of Science or the Society for Amateur Scientists.
Copyright 2006 by Forrest M. Mims III.
This is the kind of stuff we get from the "scientific intelligentia" (who doesn't think the Bible is anythig more than a book of fables). If the "intelligentia" is where we get our "guidance" for government -- look out if you happen to be a human being.
Regards, Star Traveler
well, what can one expect from the cult of death, texas style?
Well..., sorry, I was so "shell-shocked" about someone seriously advocating eliminating 90% of the population of the earth -- in order to save the earth -- that I didn't do my search good enough. There are other articles..., so comment away with some new comments here, if you want.
Can you believe it? Is this for real??!!
If this guy was in charge, he would definitely and actually do what he said. And those other scientist? Well..., they obviously would back him up.
Sounds like this was an assclown instead of a scientific convention. I wonder if all the people clapping for this pinhead realized he wants 9 out 10 of them dead....
Hang yourself...and broadcast it on the web!
Over 60 responses as of this post.
Like I always say: "Scratch a progressive, find a misanthrope."
You said -- "well, what can one expect from the cult of death, texas style?"
You got me there. I'm not sure what is going on -- in a "cult of death". Please elaborate.
As far as I can tell, this represents scientists from a large area, even though it happens happens to involve a Texas location for this conference. I would, personally, that it involves scientists from all over.
But, please do tell me what you're referring to.
You said -- "Sounds like this was an assclown instead of a scientific convention. I wonder if all the people clapping for this pinhead realized he wants 9 out 10 of them dead...."
My guess is that he would give them an *exception* and that they *know this*. Therefore, they're talking about all these other people (the 90%) as if they are all "bacteria".
This is the *core* of "ecology" for you.
I demand some 'leadership by example' from these ecologists.
Let's start with the scientist and his family.
We can take their lives as a down payment and see if it help the planet.
heh heh heh
You said -- "Let's start with the scientist and his family."
Well, take him -- leave his lizards...
Read Tom Clancy's Rainbow 6
His theory is exactly like a plot from a Tom Clancy book from several years ago, can't think of the name but some elite scientists were going to poison humans to save the planet... May have been the original Rainbow Six
I kinda felt that way when I lived in Beaumont too.
If he wants a planet with no people, tell him he can have Mars and we'll throw in Jupiter as a bonus.
The third rock from the Sun is already reserved.
What a nutcase!
Just in case anyone wants to drop the president of the University of Texas a line or two.
Isn't he the chairman of the Voluntary Human Extinction Society, with 3000 worldwide members and shrinking annually?
I was sure this was some kind of April Fools (late) joke until I went to the guy's college web page. Talk about weird! He's got a link to a long, long, long, detailed account about a childhood injury that must have left him a couple of eggs short of a dozen. http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~varanus/obit.html
The pictures are weird, his life story he calls an obituary. It's all strange.
And make sure to sign your emails "Hugo Furst".....:)
To quote George Carlin (with curses removed);
"We're so self-important. So self-important. Everybody's going to save something now. "Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails." And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. What? Are these f***ing people kidding me? Save the planet, we don't even know how to take care of ourselves yet. We haven't learned how to care for one another, we're gonna save the f***ing planet?
I'm getting tired of that s**t. Tired of that s**t. I'm tired of f***ing Earth Day, I'm tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is there aren't enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world save for their Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don't give a s**t about the planet. They don't care about the planet. Not in the abstract they don't. Not in the abstract they don't. You know what they're interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They're worried that some day in the future, they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn't impress me.
Besides, there is nothing wrong with the planet. Nothing wrong with the planet. The planet is fine. The PEOPLE are f***ed. Difference. Difference. The planet is fine. Compared to the people, the planet is doing great. Been here four and a half billion years. Did you ever think about the arithmetic? The planet has been here four and a half billion years. We've been here, what, a hundred thousand? Maybe two hundred thousand? And we've only been engaged in heavy industry for a little over two hundred years. Two hundred years versus four and a half billion. And we have the CONCEIT to think that somehow we're a threat? That somehow we're gonna put in jeopardy this beautiful little blue-green ball that's just a-floatin' around the sun?
The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through all kinds of things worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles...hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worlwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages...And we think some plastic bags, and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet...the planet...the planet isn't going anywhere. WE ARE!
We're going away. Pack your s**t, folks. We're going away. And we won't leave much of a trace, either. Thank God for that. Maybe a little styrofoam. Maybe. A little styrofoam. The planet'll be here and we'll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet'll shake us off like a bad case of fleas. A surface nuisance.
You wanna know how the planet's doing? Ask those people at Pompeii, who are frozen into position from volcanic ash, how the planet's doing. You wanna know if the planet's all right, ask those people in Mexico City or Armenia or a hundred other places buried under thousands of tons of earthquake rubble, if they feel like a threat to the planet this week. Or how about those people in Kilowaia, Hawaii, who built their homes right next to an active volcano, and then wonder why they have lava in the living room.
The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we're gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, 'cause that's what it does. It's a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed, and if it's true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new pardigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn't share our prejudice towards plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn't know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, "Why are we here?" Plastic...a**hole.
First, kill all the lawyers.
I may be a hypocrite and a bad man, but it doesn't bother me.
Scares me enough to do something about them. A firm moral underpinning not or one's own imagination is the beginning.
"cult of death" is my preferred term for what most refer to as the "culture of death."
In the olden days, it used to be said that anything associated with Texas was "big;" and it became a charicature.
Certainly a death wish for 90% of the population qualifies as over-the-top big, as such things go.
Make sense now?
Sounds like the plot from a bad Tom Clancy novel; Rainbow Six.
Dr Doom needs to be on the terrorist watch list...who knows who he might help to further his whacked out views.
They're finally saying it out loud?!?
They said it out loud decades ago. Kissinger said the world's population would ideally be 200 million.
If he really had the strength of his convictions, he would inject himself with Ebola this week. Same goes for the rest of these elitist a*holes.
It's not like they have to wait until they get a profile together either.
I very strongly agree.
I think the Univ President should be inundated with suggestions that the famous idiot be nominated as the first 'volunteer' toward population reduction.
I wonder how the puppet masters found him, wound him up and set him loose. He's made-to-order for them and their goals.
Thank God there are still some sane grown-ups like Forrest Mims to stand up to this humanity-hating lunacy.
"World population must be stabilized and to do that we must eliminate 350,000 people per day." Jacques Cousteau, 1991
ah yes...and so the new nazis appear...of course he is in the 10%, he must be to lead the new vorld order!!! yes mein furher!!! /end sarc
he loves the world so much he doesnt want mankind to dirty it...imagine this guys mind ...and tell me the same poison that existed in 1930's germany is not alive and well in the ecology movements..
more dr strangelove then dr doom..
Somewhere in hell, Hitler is smiling.
Vhen Herr Docktor says, We ist der Master Race! Ve "Heil!" Ve "Heil!" right in Herr Docktor's face . . . .
And the science community wonders why it has such a poor public image.
Hey, I "got" it!
You said -- "I question the designation "Top Scientist". This is just some schmoe with a bid for notoriety."
Of course, I was merely indicating what was given in that article and seemingly the opinions of "other top scientists" too. It appears to be their opinion.
Now..., to minimize his credentials and say he's just a "nut case" actually diminishes the seriousness of this particular situation. It's like saying about the guy who is sitting on the bus, talking to an empty seat -- "Well, he's a nut case and I can ignore him."
The problem is (here) is that he's apparently not a nut case. He's credentialed; he's teaching hundreds and thousands of students (giving them the same philosophy); he's recognized by other so-called "top scientists".
Therefore, I think calling him a nutcase does a disservice to the real problem here. What we're seeing here is the *actual fruit* of the idea of "Evolution" and it's ultimate outcome, when people are really "serious" about this anti-God philosophy.
"Evolution" is a false and deceptive and destructive philosophy and needs to be fought against and -- in its place -- we need to put in the true philosophy of the Bible, in that God created mankind as told in Genesis (not as in the "evolutionary theory" which gives lizards equal moral footing with man).
We see the end results (of thinking -- and eventually *action*) of really believing the "evolutionary theory" and being "anti-God" and anti-Bible.
So, no -- I don't think he's a "nutcase" -- but rather someone who is following his "evolutionary theories" to their *true conclusions*.
The problem here -- is -- that the Evolutionary theory is absolutely false -- and he's willing to gather a following of people committed to killing off 90% of the humans on the planet -- because of this theory of "science".
You said -- "This is not new! However they always say someone else should be eliminated and not themselves. If these left-wing anti-humans want to eliminate the human race they should start with ????? The world would be better off without anti-humans."
Well, it's not new -- the philosophy that comes from being anti-God and against what the truth of Scriptures say. In the first chapter of Romans, it tells about those deceived in their own deceptions.
However, at the present time..., those kinds of people seem to be gaining ground and may very well *act* upon their anti-God and "pro-evolutionary theories" -- to the point of releasing (accidently) some of these active organisms to kill off the human race. Perhaps some scientists have already done that and that's why we have some of these strange and virulent diseases. Perhaps we'll be seeing more of them from these kinds of scientists.