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To: redpoll

Uh, most of the people fighting it don't want to replace it at all, they just want it to open up to everyone. All the people interviewed on the show that were criticizing the BSA were saying that the BSA is an amazing idea and great for our kids. ALL of them, not just straight christians.


26 posted on 04/03/2006 8:42:49 PM PDT by Join Or Die
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To: Join Or Die
ALL of them, not just straight christians

Apparently, you are ignorant of what the Boy Scouts teach.

The following faiths or denominations have religious awards for Boy Scouts, Varsity Scouts, Venturers and/or Explorers:

* African Methodist Episcopal Church * African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church * Armenian Apostolic Church of America (Western Prelacy) * Armenian Church of America (Eastern Diocese) * Baha'i * Baptist * Buddhist * Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) * Christian Methodist Episcopal Church * Church of Christ, Scientist (Christian Scientist) * Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints * Churches of Christ * Community of Christ formerly the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints * Eastern Catholic * Eastern Orthodox * Episcopal * General Church of the New Jerusalem (The New Church) * Hindu * Islamic * Jewish * Lutheran * Meher Baba * Moravian * Polish National Catholic Church * Presbyterian Church in America * Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) * Protestant and Independent Christian Churches (Available to any Christian denomination) * Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) * Roman Catholic * The Salvation Army * Unitarian-Universalist * United Church of Christ * United Methodist * United Pentecostal Church International * Unity Churches * Zoroastrian See http://www.usscouts.org/advance/boyscout/religious.html for more on religious awards in Scouting.

30 posted on 04/03/2006 9:14:28 PM PDT by LouD
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To: Join Or Die

There are plenty of outlets for the "gay is OK" opinion to be blasted into the ears of kids as young as six.

It is purely gay agenda that they attack one of the very few organizations which has not bought into their weirdness.

"Gay is OK" is a fine position for an adult to take. I will make the decisions about what is OK for my boys to hear until they are adults - and I feel very strongly that the gay pedophile agenda is something I would rather they be told is wrong.

Maybe I should tell Penn and Teller what is funny, and what should be on their show.

Make absolutely zero mistake - the gays are after two things - the boys, and total societal acceptance of their desire for the boys. Screw them and their supporters, who now include Penn and Teller.

Frankly - the Boy Scouts' position on Gays should not even be an issue; is it accepted by rational people to put grown men in charge of teenage girls?


46 posted on 04/03/2006 9:38:36 PM PDT by Mr. Rational
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Then they can go create their own scouts. Welcome to the new fascism.


47 posted on 04/03/2006 9:40:24 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: Join Or Die

By the way - the Scouts are open to gays - just not gay scout leaders. And could you document where it says the Scouts are open to Christians only? That would be news to my pack.


48 posted on 04/03/2006 9:41:24 PM PDT by Mr. Rational
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To: Join Or Die
ALL of them, not just straight christians.

That is one of the problems with critics of the BSA. And it was one of the things that irritated me about this Penn and Teller show.
They don't know what they are talking about. They have never been involved with the BSA at even the most rudimentary level.
If they had, they would know that the BSA encourages a Scout to get involved with his own religious upbringing...whatever it may be.

My son is an Eagle Scout. He is also Jewish. One of the badges he earned towards his Eagle was a religion badge that required quite a lot of hard work from him to get. A phenomenal amount of work.
His Scoutmaster spoke at my son's Bar Mitzvah ceremony and presented him with the Etz Chaim (Tree of Life) Award.
My son's religious education and his Scouting have always been very closely intertwined. This is also true for a number of his contemporaries as well...not all of them Christian.

54 posted on 04/03/2006 9:59:44 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Pain is nothing. Pain is weakness leaving the body.)
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To: Join Or Die
the BSA is an amazing idea and great for our kids. ALL of them, not just straight christians

Where did anyone get the idea that the BSA is only for Christians? Certainly not the Buddhist temple in Chicago whose annual Troop dinner I attended. Not the Hindu kid or the Jewish kid that were in my Troop. Anyone who professes any kind of religious faith, whether it is an organized one or simply personal, is welcome in the BSA. Gays are also welcome in the BSA as long as they understand that the BSA is not a place for people to discuss or express their sexuality. How much time have you spent in Scouting?

78 posted on 04/04/2006 5:56:36 AM PDT by RonF
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"All the people interviewed on the show that were criticizing the BSA were saying that the BSA is an amazing idea and great for our kids. ALL of them, not just straight christians."

I am Jewish and there were plenty of other Jews at the scout camp I went to as a kid. There was even Rabbi who served as the Jewish chaplain!


96 posted on 04/04/2006 7:16:33 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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ALL of them, not just straight christians.

Hmmmm.... Funny, I was a member of Boy Scout Troop 43, sponsored by the Kansas City Jewish Community Center, and there was at least one more troop in KC that was sponored by a Synagogue.

Mark

158 posted on 04/04/2006 11:02:16 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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