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The strange case of the man who took 40,000 ecstasy pills in nine years
The Guardian (UK) ^ | April 4, 2006 | by David McCandless

Posted on 04/03/2006 7:45:26 PM PDT by aculeus

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To: aculeus

Exactly it's illegal and look whats happening.


41 posted on 04/03/2006 8:40:02 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

"Shouldn't that be "Mr. X"?

Of course it should! The quality of reportage continues to deteriorate.


42 posted on 04/03/2006 8:43:13 PM PDT by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"The only drug that should be legalized is marijuana. All the other drugs should remain illegal."

Totally, completely agree.


43 posted on 04/03/2006 8:45:41 PM PDT by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The only drug that should be legalized is marijuana. All the other drugs should remain illegal.

My feeling is that jails should be for people who hurt others, not just themselves. I would treat hard drugs the way alcohol is currently treated. Use at your own risk, and if you dare to get behind a wheel, steal to subsidize your habit, or give in to the voices that tell you to commit violence, you will rue the day you were born.

44 posted on 04/03/2006 9:13:53 PM PDT by Tabi Katz
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To: aculeus
I didn't imagine there were FReepers who would use this grotesque case to actually argue for legalization.

You're kidding, right? :-D

45 posted on 04/03/2006 9:20:43 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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To: zeugma
No. Total bogosity. I am well aware of these type of claims. The same were made for LSD or psilicin or mescaline by Tim Leary or Ram Das/Alpert and other lesser known charlatans over the years. Aldous Huxley wrote that nonsensical garbage book about mescaline for example.

It's all snake oil and extremely damaging snake oil. The use of these drugs has lead directly to the sad state of affairs we are in today as a nation and society.

This was how we were destroyed.

46 posted on 04/03/2006 10:10:12 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Ethanol is a very different substance than this particular methoxylated amphetamine with its' very high toxicity level and nasty epoxide group.

Alcohol is in general bad for a person, but taking it everyday does not result in the same brain damage as taking ecstasy.

A huge number of the human race use alcohol every day. Winston Churchill for example.

We in the US are not nearly as alcoholic as a lot of other societies. Britain for example has a huge number of alcoholics compared to us.

The damage is not the same.

I would, though, guess this guy also drank which may have also contributed.

47 posted on 04/03/2006 10:16:12 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: gondramB
It apparently doesn't take much error in the bath tub manufacturing process to get a byproduct that causes Parkinson disease like symptoms.

Sorry, wrong drug. Parkinson's symptoms are caused by MPTP, produced by mistakes in synthesizing MPPP which is a meperidine (an opioid analgesic) analogue. No relation to MDMA whatsoever.

That said, this will be an interesting case from medical standpoint. However, consider this: Someone abusing ethanol on this scale would probably have died long time ago...
48 posted on 04/03/2006 10:16:17 PM PDT by MirrorField (Just an opinion from atheist, minarchist and small-l libertarian.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Ecstasy is so dangerous because it's made in a garage by a wanna be chemist.You never know how much or what type of ingredient they used to make the pill.I know that all drugs are bad but I think these designer drugs are the worst.
49 posted on 04/03/2006 10:16:53 PM PDT by rdcorso (There Is No Such Thing As A Neutral Person During A War With Radical Islam.)
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To: Tiberius109

no way this guy was dropping 12 a day. He would be dead.


50 posted on 04/03/2006 10:18:52 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: MirrorField

Thanks for the post. I am postive I saw a TV show on the link but a google search indicates that info was wrong.

>>A Bad Batch

In the Wake of a Major Retraction of a Report that Linked Parkinson's Disease
to Ecstasy Use, Some Critics Wonder if Politics is Poisoning Science

By Rebecca Alvania, Baltimore City Paper, December 10 - December 16, 2003 <<

http://www.maps.org/mdma/bcp121003.html


51 posted on 04/03/2006 10:21:46 PM PDT by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: tallhappy

"Uh, no."

Uh yea some do. My aunt died before she was 40, and my dad (at age 38) nearly died from alcoholism. He had to be defibulated (sp?) 4 times, and was given his last rights because they were pretty sure he'd die.

I'm not going to argue that X is a terrible drug, and it does cause pretty bad side effects. However its not the governments job to save us from ourselves. To do that requires a substantial lose of freedoms that I'm not going to give up just so we can try (and fail I might add) to enforce our morality on others.


52 posted on 04/03/2006 10:34:02 PM PDT by RHINO369
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To: aculeus

But it's "Racism" to call him a drug addict. It's a disease and not his fault. Somewhere, somebody, somehow forced him in someway to take 40,000 pills....somebody...


53 posted on 04/03/2006 10:34:19 PM PDT by Dallas59 (MOHAMMED LIED-PEOPLE DIED)
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To: AnAmericanMother

For nine years the guy didn't understand that he was operating in the real world. Due to the wonders of socialized medicine.


54 posted on 04/03/2006 11:05:07 PM PDT by No2much3 (I did not ask for this user name, but I will keep it !)
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To: aculeus

What's the street value of 40,000 hits? $800,000? He must have been dealing also.


55 posted on 04/03/2006 11:35:37 PM PDT by opinionator
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To: tallhappy
It's all snake oil and extremely damaging snake oil. The use of these drugs has lead directly to the sad state of affairs we are in today as a nation and society.

This was how we were destroyed.

I think you are mistaken there. The beginnings of the ruination of the western world are (partially) based in the drug war, true, but let's look objectively at the drug war itself.

NONE of the "prohibited substances" were unlawful until the early 20th century. Of course, many of same didn't exist yet, but the point remains valid.

There were very few crimes directly or indirectly attributed to "lack of judgement" caused by the availability of such things as cocaine, marijuana, opium, etc.

The problems ALL occurred AFTER these "evil weeds, Devil's plants, etc. " were suddenly (and it seems irrevocably according to you and your fellow drug warriors) deemed intolerable to the prohibitionists.

OH, there's that word!

Your type, and Carrie Nation are of the identical order. I hope that someday you can see how myopic and shallow your arguments for the continuing nannyism of the drug war(s) are.

People are a LOT smarter than you give them credit for (think of some of the ingenious methods used to smuggle people), and within a few years, the "cachet" of dope would die, along with the underground economy that is wholly supported BY the drug laws you support.

56 posted on 04/04/2006 12:34:22 AM PDT by Don W (Stoneage man survived thousands of years of bitter-cold ice. Modern man WILLsurvive global warming.)
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To: Don W
Nonsense. It began with the use of hallucinogens whilst legal.

The deleterious effect of such drugs is apparent in our socity today. All the things we lament here concerning liberalism and just crazy upside down thinking.

57 posted on 04/04/2006 12:41:07 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
I didn't imagine there were FReepers who would use this grotesque case to actually argue for legalization.

You're kidding, right? :-D

I wish. I should have remembered the case of the late Carroll (forgetting his full name) the actor who played Archie Bunker. He lost his son to an overdose and shortly afterward the genuinely grief-striken man was on television saying his son would not have died if heroin was legalized! Absolutely batty!

58 posted on 04/04/2006 3:17:09 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: Trailerpark Badass
I wonder how he'd being doing if he had 12 drinks per day for 9 years?

His name would be Ted Kennedy and he would be a Senator.

59 posted on 04/04/2006 3:27:05 AM PDT by cuz_it_aint_their_money (Replacing Dan Rather with Katie Couric is like replacing an idiot with an imbecile.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
I dunno. Ask Eddie Van Halen:
60 posted on 04/04/2006 6:21:26 AM PDT by Emmet Fitzhume (Democrats need adult supervision at all times.)
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