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Sex and the Single (Preteen) Girl: Gossip Girl
Breakpoint with Charles Colson ^ | April 3, 2006 | Charles Colson

Posted on 04/04/2006 6:29:59 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback

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so Gossip Girl books are basicall written pornography for girls who have not reach puberty.

Are there not already laws with regards to selling sexual materials to minors?

At the very least should they not be behind the register and only sold to adults?


41 posted on 04/04/2006 7:39:33 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: GregB

You're added!


42 posted on 04/04/2006 7:40:26 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback ("I was in such a hurry to climb that tree, I punched a squirrel.")
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To: GrandEagle

There is the occasional witch, but always shown to be a bad guy right away. Lots of creatures out of classical mythology, because Lewis was a classical fellow, but in Narnia it is classicism tamed and subject to Christ. Only once, IIRC, does a good character attempt a "spell". It is immediately shown to be a Bad Thing, and she repents very sincerely within a page or two.

They are relatively short novels, entertaining and well written. I think it would be worth your time to read them yourself to make sure if you think they're appropriate for your children. It has magic, but it's definitely not a Harry Potter type of DIY "if only you had the secret" type of magic. Lewis always portrays any attempt at the supernatural without going through God as evil and not to be done.


43 posted on 04/04/2006 7:42:17 AM PDT by Eepsy
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To: Carry_Okie
Have her read Bastiat's "The Law." It is even more fascinating, IMO.

Carolyn

44 posted on 04/04/2006 7:43:10 AM PDT by CDHart
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To: GrandEagle

Narnia is not bad, just the opposite.

It is an alligory of christianity.

It has been around for decades.


45 posted on 04/04/2006 7:44:23 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: GrandEagle
The Narnia books are excellent. The story of the first book, "The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe" revolves around a very good allegory of the Resurrection.

The magic is no big deal...in the books, the source of all supernatural power used for good is Aslan (the Christ figure), and only those who are definitely evil use any other "magic." In fact, IIRC, I don't think that the supernatural things Aslan does for his allies are ever called magic, but simply are in effect because he has the power to do them.

C.S. Lewis did a very good job.

46 posted on 04/04/2006 7:47:12 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback ("I was in such a hurry to climb that tree, I punched a squirrel.")
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To: GOP Jedi
I'm thinking more along the lines of the Betsy & Tacy books (my big honkin' Borders only had one copy of one of them -- remember the line from "You've Got Mail" where the big box bookstore clerk had never heard of Betsy/Tacy and Meg Ryan has to clue them in?), All-of-a-Kind Family, the E. Nesbit Railway Children/Five Children and It/etc books. Came prepared with a list in my head of 5-10 titles for my friend's daughter and had to settle for Walter Farley and the Witch of Blackbird Pond.

Graham Greene's children's books are out of print, as far as I can tell. Pearl S. Buck's children's classic The Chinese Children Next Door is out of print.

47 posted on 04/04/2006 7:48:28 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
They just turned thirteen and twelve respectively.

Their primary sources for the paper were Titus Livius (whom they found absolutely enthralling to read), Tacitus, Juvenal, Plutarch, Cicero, and Julius Caesar.

The secondary sources were A History of the Romans, by Frank Bourne, Chronicle of the Roman Republic, by Philip Matyszak, Roman Homosexuality, by Craig A. Williams (a scholarly work not in the least a perjorative, but nevertheless it was more than graphic), and Roman Religions, by Mary Beard, John North, and Simon Price. Finally, they did include an abridged version of Gibbon's The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. Needless to say, there is also a collection of online sources.

I would call this paper probably equivalent in quality and extent to an upper division undergraduate humanities thesis (although it took them nearly a year to assemble). Sadly, IMO it's what we should be expecting out of high schools.

48 posted on 04/04/2006 7:48:55 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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you are not suggesting we ban these books are you??? parents need to be the parent and keep their kids away from this stuff, government should not get involved.


49 posted on 04/04/2006 7:50:34 AM PDT by Element187
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To: CDHart
Have her read Bastiat's "The Law." It is even more fascinating, IMO.

We'll get there. Thanks for the recommendation.

50 posted on 04/04/2006 7:50:34 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Thank you for this head's up. As the mother of three daughters, one being almost 11, I will keep a lookout for these "Gossip Girls" series. Luckily I live in a prudish, conservative country bumpkin county and the schools don't even allow Goosebumps in the public school library, so doubtful this will make it. However times are a changin...


51 posted on 04/04/2006 7:50:42 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: Mr. Silverback
Frankly, the only reason I have cable is Fox News and Packer games.

History Channel has some good stuff (particularly Modern Marvels), but you have to be there to interpret the spin.

52 posted on 04/04/2006 7:51:56 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: JohnnyZ

Abebooks.com (http://www.abebooks.com) is a great resource for OOP books. For example:
http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=Maud+Hart+Lovelace&y=11&sortby=5&x=60


53 posted on 04/04/2006 7:53:53 AM PDT by GOP Jedi
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To: jwalburg; Mr. Silverback

My thirteen year old is working her way through Nancy Drew. Such innocence. I had not heard of this puke and thank you Mr Silverback for bringing it to our attention.


54 posted on 04/04/2006 7:56:01 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: GOP Jedi
Thank you! There's alibris, too....

.... but it'd be nice if some clueless parents could walk into a bookstore and see these books on a big display and catch on that they must be good.

55 posted on 04/04/2006 7:56:31 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: sine_nomine

Mine too!! She is all about Narnia and I have been asked at LEAST 18 times today if I am going to go get it on DVD since it is released today. She's been asking since we left the movie theatres door after seeing it the third time, LOL.

She just finished Prince Caspian too. Has she read that yet? Tell her my daughter LOVED it as much as The Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe.


56 posted on 04/04/2006 7:58:09 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: Mr. Silverback

Bump.


57 posted on 04/04/2006 7:59:12 AM PDT by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: Eepsy; Mr. Silverback; longtermmemmory
Thanks for the information. My 10yr old is a read-a-holic and I think she may like some different material.
Thank you all for taking the time to respond.

GE
58 posted on 04/04/2006 8:06:38 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Mr. Silverback

"Although I will admit I read every single "Little House" book, even though most kids considered them girl books."

Both of my boys read "Little House."


59 posted on 04/04/2006 8:09:47 AM PDT by imskylark
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To: SoftballMominVA

Ping - you might have some insight/thoughts/comments?


60 posted on 04/04/2006 8:11:12 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Rage is the fuel that powers the islamic machine)
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