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The Truth About 'La Raza'
Human Events ^ | April 7, 2006 | Congressman Charlie Norwood (Georgia)

Posted on 04/07/2006 8:47:15 AM PDT by Reagan Man

The nation's television screens many days recently have been filled with scenes of huge crowds carrying the colorful green and red flag of Mexico viewers could well have thought it was a national holiday in Mexico City.

It was instead, downtown Los Angeles, Calif., although the scene was recreated in numerous other cities around the country with substantial Mexican populations. Hordes of Mexican expatriates, many here illegally, were protesting the very U.S. immigration laws they were violating with impunity. They found it offensive and a violation of their rights that the U.S. dared to have immigration laws to begin with.

Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa mounted the podium, but any hopes that he would quiet the crowds and defend the law were soon dashed. Villaraigosa, himself, has spent a lifetime opposing U.S. immigration law.

For law-abiding Americans without knowledge of the dark side of our current illegal immigration crisis, all this is unfathomable. For those who know the truth about the "La Raza" movement, these demonstrations were a prophecy fulfilled.

It is past time for all Americans to know what is at the root of this outrageous behavior, and the extent to which the nation is at risk because of "La Raza" -- The Race.

There are many immigrant groups joined in the overall "La Raza" movement. The most prominent and mainstream organization is the National Council de La Raza -- the Council of "The Race".

To most of the mainstream media, most members of Congress, and even many of their own members, the National Council of La Raza is no more than a Hispanic Rotary Club.

But the National Council of La Raza succeeded in raking in over $15.2 million in federal grants last year alone, of which $7.9 million was in U.S. Department of Education grants for Charter Schools, and undisclosed amounts were for get-out-the-vote efforts supporting La Raza political positions.

The Council of La Raza succeeded in having itself added to congressional hearings by Republican House and Senate leaders. And an anonymous senator even gave the Council of La Raza an extra $4 million in earmarked taxpayer money, supposedly for "housing reform," while La Raza continues to lobby the Senate for virtual open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens.

La Raza movement, the agenda that led to those thousands of illegal immigrants in the streets of American cities, waving Mexican flags, brazenly defying our laws, and demanding concessions.

Key among the secondary organizations is the radical racist group Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.

One of America's greatest strengths has always been taking in immigrants from cultures around the world, and assimilating them into our country as Americans. By being citizens of the U.S. we are Americans first, and only, in our national loyalties.

This is totally opposed by MEChA for the hordes of illegal immigrants pouring across our borders, to whom they say:

"Chicano is our identity; it defines who we are as people. It rejects the notion that we...should assimilate into the Anglo-American melting pot...Aztlan was the legendary homeland of the Aztecas ... It became synonymous with the vast territories of the Southwest, brutally stolen from a Mexican people marginalized and betrayed by the hostile custodians of the Manifest Destiny." (Statement on University of Oregon MEChA Website, Jan. 3, 2006)

MEChA isn't at all shy about their goals, or their views of other races. Their founding principles are contained in these words in "El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan" (The Spiritual Plan for Aztlan):

"In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal gringo invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny. ... Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. ... We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan. For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada."

That closing two-sentence motto is chilling to everyone who values equal rights for all. It says: "For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing."

If these morally sickening MEChA quotes were coming from some fringe website, Americans could at least console themselves that it was just a small group of nuts behind it. Nearly every racial and ethnic group has some shady characters and positions in its past and some unbalanced individuals today claiming racial superiority and demanding separatism. But this is coming straight from the official MEChA sites at Georgetown University, the University of Texas, UCLA, University of Michigan, University of Colorado, University of Oregon, and many other colleges and universities around the country.

MEChA was in fact reported to be one of the main organizers of those street demonstrations we witnessed over the past weeks. That helps explain why those hordes of illegal immigrants weren't asking for amnesty -- they were demanding an end to U.S. law, period. Unlike past waves of immigrants who sought to become responsible members of American society, these protesters reject American society altogether, because they have been taught that America rightfully belongs to them.

MEChA and the La Raza movement teach that Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington State make up an area known as "Aztlan" -- a fictional ancestral homeland of the Aztecs before Europeans arrived in North America. As such, it belongs to the followers of MEChA. These are all areas America should surrender to "La Raza" once enough immigrants, legal or illegal, enter to claim a majority, as in Los Angeles. The current borders of the United States will simply be extinguished.

This plan is what is referred to as the "Reconquista" or reconquest, of the Western U.S.

But it won't end with territorial occupation and secession. The final plan for the La Raza movement includes the ethnic cleansing of Americans of European, African, and Asian descent out of "Aztlan."

As Miguel Perez of Cal State-Northridge's MEChA chapter has been quoted as saying: "The ultimate ideology is the liberation of Aztlan. Communism would be closest [to it]. Once Aztlan is established, ethnic cleansing would commence: Non-Chicanos would have to be expelled -- opposition groups would be quashed because you have to keep power."

MEChA Plants

Members of these radical, anti-American, racist organizations are frequently smoothly polished into public respectability by the National Council of La Raza.

Former MEChA members include Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, who was officially endorsed by La Raza for mayor and was awarded La Raza's Graciela Olivarez Award. Now we know why he refuses to condemn a sea of foreign flags in his city. California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante is also a former MEChA member. He delivered the keynote address at La Raza's 2002 Annual Convention.

The National Council of La Raza and its allies in public office make no repudiation of the radical MEChA and its positions. In fact, as recently as 2003, La Raza was actively funding MEChA, according to federal tax records.

Imagine Robert Byrd's refusing to disavow the views of the KKK, or if Strom Thurmond had failed to admit segregation was wrong. Imagine Heritage or Brookings Foundation making grants to the American Nazi Party.

Is the National Council of La Raza itself a racist organization? Regardless of the organization's suspect ties, the majority of its members are not. When one examines all the organization's activities, they are commendable non-profit projects, such as education and housing programs.

But even these defensible efforts raise the question of whether education and housing programs funded with federal tax dollars should be used in programs specifically targeted to benefit just one ethnic group.

La Raza defenders usually respond by calling anyone making these allegations "a racist" for having called attention to La Raza's racist links. All the groups and public officials with ties to the La Raza movement can take a big step towards disproving these allegations by simply following the examples of Senators Byrd and Thurmond and repenting of their past ways.

If they are unwilling to admit past misdeeds, they can at least state -- unequivocally -- that they officially oppose the racist and anti-American positions of MEChA, and any other groups that espouse similar views.

Through public appearances, written statements, and on their respective websites, La Raza groups and allies must:

1. Denounce the motto "For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada," as repugnant, racist, and totally incompatible with American society or citizenship.

2. Acknowledge the right of all Americans to live wherever they choose in the U.S. without segregation.

3. Commit to sponsorship of nationwide educational programs to combat racism and anti-Semitism in the Hispanic community.

4. Denounce and sever all ties with MEChA and any other organizations with which they have ever been associated which held to the racist doctrines held by MEChA.

5. Acknowledge the internationally recognized borders of the U.S., the right of the citizens of the U.S. to determine immigration policy through the democratic process, and the right of the U.S. to undertake any and all necessary steps to effectively enforce immigration law and defend its border against unauthorized entry.

6. Repudiate all claims that current American territory rightfully belongs to Mexico.

If the National Council of La Raza, other La Raza groups, and local and national political leaders with past ties and associations with the radical elements of the La Raza movement can publicly issue such a statement and live by every one of these principles, they should be welcomed into the American public policy arena, with past sins -- real or imaginary -- forgiven.

If they cannot publicly and fully support these principles, Congress needs to take appropriate steps and immediately bar any group refusing to comply from receiving any future federal funds. Both the House and Senate should strike these groups from testifying before any committees, and the White House should sever all ties. Both political parties should disengage from any further contact with these groups and individuals.

There are plenty of decent, patriotic Hispanic organizations and elected officials to provide Congress with necessary feedback on specific issues confronting Americans of Latino heritage. Any group or individual who can agree with the simple six points should be welcomed into that fold.

If not, the American people will know there's a wolf in their midst, and take the necessary precautions to defend our Republic against an enemy.

(Mr. Norwood, a Republican, represents the 9th District of Georgia.)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegal; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; laraza; nclr

1 posted on 04/07/2006 8:47:17 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man

La Raza, aka the Tan Klan.


2 posted on 04/07/2006 8:48:23 AM PDT by jpl
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To: Reagan Man

BTTT


3 posted on 04/07/2006 8:48:55 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Reagan Man
When I first moved to San Diego a couple years ago, I saw this building on the way to the zoo, and knowing what I knew *then* about La Raza, I was pretty creeped out...

Centro Cultural de la Raza: Established in 1970, Centro is dedicated to creating, promoting, and preserving Chicano, Mexican, and Indigenous art and culture.

4 posted on 04/07/2006 8:51:27 AM PDT by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: Reagan Man
One would wonder why La Raza would bother to make any statement that would identify itself with America. It and the other racial groups (Nation of Islam, for example) KNOW where their power is: it's with racism.
The racist card plays well; has since Affirmative Action Racism began in the 70's -- unforeseen outcome of the Civil Rights Act.
Title IX is another bad outcome of the same law. It tried to make men and women the same in sports. Didn't happen; won't ever happen. But, that's another story for another time.
5 posted on 04/07/2006 8:57:39 AM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: Travis McGee; wardaddy
You guys will love this article.
6 posted on 04/07/2006 8:58:47 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: Reagan Man
"But the National Council of La Raza succeeded in raking in over $15.2 million in federal grants last year alone

Adding insult to injury.

7 posted on 04/07/2006 9:00:49 AM PDT by stopem (What is the true intent of the illegal invaders?)
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To: Reagan Man

MEChA and the La Raza movement teach that Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington State make up an area known as "Aztlan"

I didn't know the Chinook Indians of the NW were AssTecs...where are the temples


8 posted on 04/07/2006 9:01:51 AM PDT by kaktuskid
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To: cgk
Thanks for your San Diego perspective, cgk.

Most foreigners who enter the US illegally, come here not to integrate into American society, but mainly to get find work. They disrupt our employment process, undermine our social welfare system and basically steal from the American people. Not to mention drug running and other related criminal activities associated with ilegal immigration, that includes possible terrorist activities.

We see today in Iraq what a small band of insurgents can accomplish. If things don't go the right way for these militant Hispanic groups, can you imagine what serious trouble they're capable of making for the American people. IMHO, that serious is just around the corner.

9 posted on 04/07/2006 9:03:29 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Reagan Man
"But it won't end with territorial occupation and secession. The final plan for the La Raza movement includes the ethnic cleansing of Americans of European, African, and Asian descent out of "Aztlan."

Racist pigs.

10 posted on 04/07/2006 9:04:05 AM PDT by stopem (What is the true intent of the illegal invaders?)
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To: Reagan Man
To most of the mainstream media, most members of Congress, and even many of their own members, the National Council of La Raza is no more than a Hispanic Rotary Club.

They are either blind or don't want to see the truth about "La Raza". I and my family have always known the truth about groups like "La Raza". Usually a good tipoff is any organization that uses the word "Chicano" anywhere in its literature. It bothers the heck out of me that Alberto Gonzalez was on the board of one of La Raza's state affiliates in Texas.

11 posted on 04/07/2006 9:04:24 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Hey, Washington, which laws do I get to break?)
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To: Reagan Man

If La Raza is so concerned about the indigenous peoples of Mexico, did they protest a few years ago when the Mexican government threw out foreigners that were helping that Nutjob Subcomandante Marcos and the Zapatistas?

It's against Mexican law for foreigners to participate in politics in Mexico, you see.


12 posted on 04/07/2006 9:05:59 AM PDT by Utahrd
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To: stopem
Now now, they can't be all bad, Wal Mart gave them $640,000 recently.
13 posted on 04/07/2006 9:06:40 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: cgk
Centro Cultural de la Raza: Established in 1970, Centro is dedicated to creating, promoting, and preserving Chicano, Mexican, and Indigenous art and culture.

... Centro is dedicated to La Reconquista - just ask them.

14 posted on 04/07/2006 9:07:03 AM PDT by bimbo
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To: stopem
The final plan for the La Raza movement includes the ethnic cleansing of Americans of European, African, and Asian descent out of "Aztlan."

They have done so already in some of their colonies in California in terms of forcing out non-Mexican students in the schools, businesses, etc.

Recently here on the Central Coast store employees that used to speak both Spanish and English to customers now refose to speak English.

15 posted on 04/07/2006 9:10:57 AM PDT by Poincare
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To: Reagan Man
The argument against the Left that I have yet to hear is this:

the illegals, regardless of the euphemistic ways of referring to their employment, are "working under the table."

Many have done so and I don't think anyone who has, disliked it. You are willing to work for far less pay if it is under-the-table -- because you are paying no taxes and therefore taking home far more than you would.

The argument has been made that the American people who think they're saving money with the cheap labor are not, that they simply pay it through a back-door they can't see, through social services.

But you'd think the Left would be really ticked that all these workers are not paying taxes, which is the raison d'etre of the Left. I know they'll excuse it saying they are the poor and oppressed, etc. ad nauseum. But the fact is they are only contributing halfway to the Socialist state they are trying to implement by forcing a redistribution from Americans but not paying into the State.
16 posted on 04/07/2006 9:13:02 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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To: Reagan Man

Anti-American racists. Balls to bone.


17 posted on 04/07/2006 9:16:27 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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Isn't Spain part of Europe?? The vast majority of these Hispanics are of Spanish descent, NOT of Indian descent, in fact, they discriminate against the Indios.


18 posted on 04/07/2006 9:18:04 AM PDT by Shimmer128
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

la Raza...............We Americans will find this is just another name for Hamas. But not until the whores in congress have given away our great nation.


19 posted on 04/07/2006 9:18:53 AM PDT by newcthem (Wonder if Ted Kennedy would support amnesty for Lee Harvey Oswald?)
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To: kaktuskid

That's how you get Reconquistas to go away. Point out that they would have to take Utah back.

The last time I surfed through a bunch a Mecha websites, (boy, will that give you a headache); they seem to have removed the "Todo por la Raza" line. They aren't stupid.

So if I'm a legal Argentinean, Chilean, Uruguayan or Brazilian immigrant; and I see all the Brown Pride shirts and listen to that crap in my native language (or something close to it in the case of Brazilians); the first thing I would do is join the Minutemen.


20 posted on 04/07/2006 9:20:04 AM PDT by Utahrd
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To: Reagan Man

"This plan is what is referred to as the "Reconquista" or reconquest.."

Interesting. The Reconquista was carried out by white Spanish Europeans against Islamic occupiers.

Wasn't Mr Gonzales working for La Raza?


21 posted on 04/07/2006 9:22:39 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: newcthem

La Raza is a modern day 5th column movement, composed of hispanics and guilt-ridden white liberals. Its goal: the reconquista, literally taking the American Southwest back for Mexico and making it Mexican federal property. La Raza is nothing more than a den of hostile foreign spies with some traitor citizens mixed in.


22 posted on 04/07/2006 9:24:50 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Reagan Man

bttt


23 posted on 04/07/2006 9:33:40 AM PDT by txhurl (A sure sign of a lunatic is sooner or later he brings up the Templars.)
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To: All
In Colorado we had a "La raza" group called "Crusade for Justice" run by Corky Gonzales. In the 70s they were a full fledged terrorist group.
They went on a bombing cam pain in the mid 1970s. Fortunately their bomb maker was a total incompetent. Two bombs went off inside the cars of the people preparing to set the bombs killing all the people in the car(3 young people in both cases). One happened in the Burger King parking lot in Boulder. The car belonged to a senior Crusade for Justice official who was never prosecuted.
For years the activists tried to blame the bombs on "the government". About a year later the number two man at Crusade for justice set off a bomb downtown Denver. He then placed two bombs about a 1/2 mile away set to go off about 30 mins later. The idea was for the first bomb to attract lots of police and fire men. Then when the second bomb went off they would all run to the scene of the second bombing. What know one new was that a third bomb was placed in a metal newspaper stand set to go off 15 mins later. The terrorist was hoping to kill all the police officers and firemen who rushed over to the site of the second bombing. Fortunately the Crusade for Justice terrorist blew himself up setting the second bomb and the bomb put in the metal newspaper stand failed to go off.
As far as I remember this pretty much put an end to the bombing campaign. In Colorado these events while widely reported at the time have fallen into some kind of memory hole. When Corky Gonzales died recently he was treated like saintly legend not the leader of a terrorist group responsible for the death of at least 7 people, attempting to kill dozens of police and firemen.
24 posted on 04/07/2006 9:44:19 AM PDT by Jonah Johansen ("Coming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: Reagan Man

"Hordes of Mexican expatriates"

Oh, for crying out loud ... they're expats now?


25 posted on 04/07/2006 9:44:41 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Shimmer128

Your right. Hispanics are of European decent.

But here is a more interesting question. If an African-American migrates to Africa and has a child is that child an African-American-African.


26 posted on 04/07/2006 9:49:52 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: Jonah Johansen

"Two bombs went off inside the cars of the people preparing to set the bombs killing all the people in the car(3 young people in both cases). One happened in the Burger King parking lot in Boulder.'

Too funny. Burger King. Darwin was right. Now if we can only do away with FEMA.


27 posted on 04/07/2006 9:52:00 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida ((Elections Matter)
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To: Reagan Man

What? No mention of our AG, Alberto Gonzales.

He came highly recommended for the job, by .. The
NCLR.

NCLR ENDORSES NOMINATION OF ALBERTO GONZALES FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL

http://www.nclr.org/content/news/detail/29313/


28 posted on 04/07/2006 10:12:51 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Have you hugged an illegal alien today?)
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To: Reagan Man
Excellent article. Very informative and worth bookmarking.
One factor the author didn't touch on is the connection these "Latino" orgs have with international communists. Take a look at Mechas website of pics taken before and after their marches. Particularly look at the pic on the right in the third row down. Here is the caption for it...

One of the more negative parts of the march was when American flags were passed out to make sure the marchers were looked on as part of "America".

29 posted on 04/07/2006 11:25:32 AM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: ZULU

If you're talking about the AG I think it was Houston LULAC.


30 posted on 04/07/2006 11:25:47 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (Say NO! to the "No Illegal Alien Left Behind" legislation...)
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To: Reagan Man
But the National Council of La Raza succeeded in raking in over $15.2 million in federal grants last year alone, of which $7.9 million was in U.S. Department of Education grants for Charter Schools, and undisclosed amounts were for get-out-the-vote efforts supporting La Raza political positions.

Remember this as you're filing your tax return. Your hard-earned money being given to a racist, socialist organization which is working to undermine America.

31 posted on 04/07/2006 12:08:39 PM PDT by jrp
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To: Texas_Jarhead

What's LULAC?


32 posted on 04/07/2006 1:03:37 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: ZULU
"What's LULAC?"

Once patriotic American group gone bad
33 posted on 04/07/2006 1:07:14 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (Say NO! to the "No Illegal Alien Left Behind" legislation...)
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To: Reagan Man

Darn, I thought this was about Tony LaRussa and the Cardinals.


34 posted on 04/07/2006 1:08:41 PM PDT by demsux
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To: Texas_Jarhead

Looks like they are involved in those demonstrations against the House bill and active in illegal alien "rights".


35 posted on 04/07/2006 1:17:10 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Joe Brower

CW2 coming. Check your mail....


36 posted on 04/07/2006 1:50:18 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Shimmer128; Sunnyflorida

Actually, most Hispanics (at least Mexicans) are Mestizos. Mestizos are people of mixed blood-both Spanish and Indian, although it is possible that quite a few Mestizos are somewhat more Indian than Spanish, because the Indians were probably more numerous than the SPanish settlers. In fact, Mexican culture may well be as much Indian as Spanish.


37 posted on 04/07/2006 8:39:54 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (I am General Tso, this is my second in command, Colonel Sanders.)
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To: Sunnyflorida

Hoot! I never thought of that.


38 posted on 04/08/2006 4:14:47 PM PDT by Shimmer128
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To: cgk
The image on the far left, looks like Stan Marsh's Dad on South Park!


39 posted on 04/08/2006 4:27:17 PM PDT by kstewskis (The Gospel of McPain: thugs, murderers, and terrorists doing the jobs Americans just won't do!)
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To: Jacob Kell

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/005372.html

Are Hispanics Westerners? The debate continues

Howard Sutherland, who knows Mexico well, makes a mighty contribution to the debate on whether Hispanics are Westerners. Since his e-mail is too long to be included among the other comments in that thread (which is still ongoing), I am putting it here in its own entry.

Are Hispanics Western? The answer depends upon which Latin American one is talking about. Borges? Yes. Villa-Lobos? Yes. In Mexico, Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz? Yes. Octavio Paz? Yes. Vicente Fox? Yes, even him, although he is a traitor (but so is GWB: living proof that Western-ness is no proof against folly). The tens of millions of mestizos and indios invading the United States? NO! They are the descendants of pre-Columbian Indian slave-states, not of Spain or anywhere else European. Their Christianity (often nominal to begin with) is a veneer over an ancient and, frankly, dark Indian heritage (are your critics familiar with the religious and social customs of pre-Columbian cultures?). “Hispanic” is a grossly misleading euphemism anyway. Orwell would have used it in his essay had he known of it. I actually think I read once that real Spaniards, as white Europeans, are not “Hispanics” as defined by our welfare state. The term lumps together masses of unrelated people from a score of countries, where far more languages than Spanish are spoken. I take it you are using Hispanic as a proxy for our current invaders from Mexico and her neighbors. That is what I am talking about, although most of this could apply to West Indian Hispanics as well—just substitute “African” for “Indian.”
I wonder if any of your correspondents who say that Mexican and Central American mestizos and indios are Westerners have spent any time in Mexico or Central America. Do they know those peoples’ homelands; have they ever seen them at home? In the 1970s I lived and worked in Mexico, in the state of Guanajuato (Fox was the state’s governor in the 1990s), out in the country in an old mining town whose remaining inhabitants were mestizo peasants. The Guanajuato peasantry is mestizo overall. Mexico’s old colonial cities, especially Guanajuato, are Spanish jewels (at least in the old parts) with mostly white elites. Outside the colonial heart of the old city, Guanajuato is not very European at all, but it is less Indian than more southerly states like Guerrero, Oaxaca and Chiapas—increasingly the states sending illegal aliens our way. Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras resemble Chiapas. To the limited extent that the Spaniards succeeded in creating a New Spain, they did it in places like Guanajuato. Still, it is a very thin Spanish skin over a beating Indian heart. As an admirer of ancient Rome and also of the conquistadores and imperial Spain, I went to Mexico wanting to believe that there was an unbroken chain of European civilization running from Roman Hispania through mediaeval Spain through the empire Spain made in the New World to modern Mexico and Latin America. I wanted badly to believe that Western civilization had truly brought Latin America into its orbit. I tried to see continuity with ancient Rome and old Spain in the old churches and colonial ruins that I saw. When I became a Roman Catholic, I had even more reason to want to believe that, of course.

I can remember, about ten years after I had worked in Mexico, flying from San Antonio, Texas to Oaxaca. Flying over the altiplano of northern Mexico, looking down at the sere landscape and the geometrically laid-out villages with wide-open fields between them, I thought that must be what Roman Hispania, with its coloniae, looked like (the Mexican altiplano bears a passing resemblance to the altiplano of Old Castile). Maybe so, but I now think the resemblance is almost entirely physical. The culture of rural Mexico is far more Indian than European—almost completely Indian, with telltale traces of Western consumerism sprinkled about. It is the Third World; more like the Philippines or Africa than Spain. Mexico (and I suspect every Latin American country except perhaps Argentina, Uruguay and—to some extent—Chile) is totally unlike the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Those British foundations had European settling populations that mostly displaced the natives, fairness of the displacement notwithstanding. European colonists created European polities that they settled themselves. In Mexico, Peru and elsewhere, there were very large Indian populations. Although many died, the native populations of Mexico, Central America and northern South America always remained a majority, ruled in every case by white oligarchies that rarely mix with the mestizos and indios and have never tried to make Westerners of them. The racial mixing that produced the mestizo happened a long time ago, and did not create a new breed of Westerner in any case. Mexico and other Latin American countries are more like an informal apartheid, with a white upper caste over mixed-race and Indian peasant populations that have little to do with what high culture there is. Those oligarchs are European in heritage (mostly Spaniard, of course, in Mexico), and it is easy, if one thinks only of them, to make the mistake of thinking of Latin America as Western in the sense that the British-heritage nations are. Of course, except for their children who are preferred to Americans by Harvard, Yale, Princeton, et al., it is not white oligarchs who are flooding America!

After years of thinking about it, more travel in Mexico, and watching first California and Texas and now the whole United States transformed by the weight of all those mestizos and indios, I abandoned the illusion that the Spaniards had made a new European nation in the Americas. They had not—in fact, they really didn’t try. Those old Mexican churches I loved are just that—old, and largely empty. Those colonial ruins I wandered around in are ruins. Mexico, in fact as well as law, has turned her back on what Western heritage she has, precisely in order to worship the Other (which isn’t Other in Mexico, although the pretense of the oligarchs pretending to revere those they rule is amusing). Montezuma, a feckless loser, is a national hero because he is an Indian; Cortés, who was not a simple bloodthirsty conqueror, is the ultimate villain because he is a Spaniard. The Hispanics we are talking about are anti-Westerners, foot soldiers of the campaign to sever America from the West and “return” it to Indians. Adding to the outrage is the fact that that the invading mestizos’ and indios’ ancestors were never up here. The reconquista claims are lies, but especially with respect to our uninvited guests from points south. There never was an Aztlán where the American Southwest is today. I pray there never will be.


40 posted on 04/08/2006 4:31:40 PM PDT by dennisw (If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles-Sun Tzu)
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To: cgk
"Centro Cultural de la Raza: Established in 1970, Centro is dedicated to creating, promoting, and preserving Chicano, Mexican, and Indigenous art and culture."

And loyal Amrican conservatives are equally dedicated to protecting American sovereignty and borders, and preserving American culture, customs, traditions and the english language.

Looks like we have a disagreement here.

One that will have to be resolved, once and for all.

41 posted on 04/08/2006 5:07:58 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: hispanarepublicana
"It bothers the heck out of me that Alberto Gonzalez was on the board of one of La Raza's state affiliates in Texas."

Yeah, it bothers me too.

But it doesn't surprise me. Perfect fit for the Bush administration.

42 posted on 04/08/2006 5:10:30 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Reagan Man

Hey...I went to Rosarita beach once..does that mean I can claim some Mexican real estate? I mean..turn abouts fair play, right?


43 posted on 04/08/2006 5:13:44 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (Buy Danish!)
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To: dennisw

“There never was an Aztlán where the American Southwest is today. I pray there never will be. “

We all pray that amnesty can be stopped. If not, California and Arizona, amongst others, will be toast.


44 posted on 07/04/2009 11:33:40 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I got a kick out of re-reading that


45 posted on 07/04/2009 1:17:20 PM PDT by dennisw ("stealth tribal warfare" is what the Sotomayor nomination is about)
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