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EFF: AT&T forwards all Internet traffic into NSA
www.spamdailynews.com ^ | April 07, 2006 | spamdailynews

Posted on 04/07/2006 6:57:10 PM PDT by Bobalu

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To: bobbdobbs
AT&T forwards all Internet traffic into NSA
No wonder my porn bandwidth is throttled. :-)
I figured this just explained all the lag on World of Warcraft...
61 posted on 04/07/2006 11:18:57 PM PDT by Vroomfondel
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To: zeugma

Great comments.. I can see you know what you are talking about...

I love this kind of stuff... keeping up with it is a hobby for me.


62 posted on 04/07/2006 11:23:25 PM PDT by Bobalu (This is not the tag line you are looking for.....move along (waves hand))
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To: Bobalu
Anyone that believes this foolishness should follow Tom Cruise and Issac Hays into Scientology.
63 posted on 04/07/2006 11:24:18 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: chuckles

How do they know, however, if someone who says "bomb" is really talking about a kaboom bomb, and not a Bill Of Materials (BOM) or a luscious dessert known as a bombe?


64 posted on 04/07/2006 11:24:41 PM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: Vroomfondel; bobbdobbs

Well between the two of you I think I should share this
(off topic) link.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5430343841227974645

Brings both of your posts together nicely.

and to bobbdobbs
GOT SLACK? Pra Bob!


65 posted on 04/07/2006 11:26:22 PM PDT by SubGeniusX
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To: axes_of_weezles

Shades of ECHELON and CARNIVORE. Nothing new.


66 posted on 04/07/2006 11:28:14 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: SubGeniusX

We used to do that on the phone--AK-47, C4, M16--just to see if they were nodding by the set,--Waco, Ruby Ridge, Militia--or if they were paying attention.


67 posted on 04/07/2006 11:32:43 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: chuckles
Now they have your digital cell phone( remember the push to get new digital phones?) with GPS in them. They know where you are within 3 feet.

THe irony in this is that a multitude of rural phones, formerly analog bag phones, could reach the tower, the new digital ones cannot. Some people will go to radio or direct satellite internet or VOIP instead. Is the satellite traffic monitored, too?

68 posted on 04/07/2006 11:49:40 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: chuckles

What I tell people with cell phones. What can be done to make people want to get “chipped” (or carry a device that can track you anywhere) Just think, a person anywhere in the world dials your number and your phone rings. how did they find you & get the right tower?

Even without GPS you can be found close to were you are. By which cell your in, beam forming & time delay.


69 posted on 04/07/2006 11:53:04 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: Bobalu

More info...from Wired online

Whistle-Blower Outs NSA Spy Room







By Ryan Singel| Also by this reporter
11:15 AM Apr, 07, 2006

AT&T provided National Security Agency eavesdroppers with full access to its customers' phone calls, and shunted its customers' internet traffic to data-mining equipment installed in a secret room in its San Francisco switching center, according to a former AT&T worker cooperating in the Electronic Frontier Foundation's lawsuit against the company.

Mark Klein, a retired AT&T communications technician, submitted an affidavit in support of the EFF's lawsuit this week. That class action lawsuit, filed in federal court in San Francisco last January, alleges that AT&T violated federal and state laws by surreptitiously allowing the government to monitor phone and internet communications of AT&T customers without warrants.

On Wednesday, the EFF asked the court to issue an injunction prohibiting AT&T from continuing the alleged wiretapping, and filed a number of documents under seal, including three AT&T documents that purportedly explain how the wiretapping system works.

According to a statement released by Klein's attorney, an NSA agent showed up at the San Francisco switching center in 2002 to interview a management-level technician for a special job. In January 2003, Klein observed a new room being built adjacent to the room housing AT&T's #4ESS switching equipment, which is responsible for routing long distance and international calls.

"I learned that the person whom the NSA interviewed for the secret job was the person working to install equipment in this room," Klein wrote. "The regular technician work force was not allowed in the room."

Klein's job eventually included connecting internet circuits to a splitting cabinet that led to the secret room. During the course of that work, he learned from a co-worker that similar cabinets were being installed in other cities, including Seattle, San Jose, Los Angeles and San Diego.

"While doing my job, I learned that fiber optic cables from the secret room were tapping into the Worldnet (AT&T's internet service) circuits by splitting off a portion of the light signal," Klein wrote.

The split circuits included traffic from peering links connecting to other internet backbone providers, meaning that AT&T was also diverting traffic routed from its network to or from other domestic and international providers, according to Klein's statement.

The secret room also included data-mining equipment called a Narus STA 6400, "known to be used particularly by government intelligence agencies because of its ability to sift through large amounts of data looking for preprogrammed targets," according to Klein's statement.

Narus, whose website touts AT&T as a client, sells software to help internet service providers and telecoms monitor and manage their networks, look for intrusions, and wiretap phone calls as mandated by federal law.

Klein said he came forward because he does not believe that the Bush administration is being truthful about the extent of its extrajudicial monitoring of Americans' communications.

"Despite what we are hearing, and considering the public track record of this administration, I simply do not believe their claims that the NSA's spying program is really limited to foreign communications or is otherwise consistent with the NSA's charter or with FISA," Klein's wrote. "And unlike the controversy over targeted wiretaps of individuals' phone calls, this potential spying appears to be applied wholesale to all sorts of internet communications of countless citizens."

After asking for a preview copy of the documents last week, the government did not object to the EFF filing the paper under seal, although the EFF asked the court Wednesday to make the documents public.

One of the documents is titled "Study Group 3, LGX/Splitter Wiring, San Francisco," and is dated 2002. The others are allegedly a design document instructing technicians how to wire up the taps, and a document that describes the equipment installed in the secret room.

In a letter to the EFF, AT&T objected to the filing of the documents in any manner, saying that they contain sensitive trade secrets and could be "could be used to 'hack' into the AT&T network, compromising its integrity."

According to court rules, AT&T has until Thursday to file a motion to keep the documents sealed. The government could also step in to the case and request that the documents not be made public, or even that the entire lawsuit be barred under the seldom-used State Secrets Privilege.

AT&T spokesman Walt Sharp declined to comment on the allegations, citing a company policy of not commenting on litigation or matters of national security, but did say that "AT&T follows all laws following requests for assistance from government authorities."


70 posted on 04/08/2006 12:05:13 AM PDT by Bobalu (This is not the tag line you are looking for.....move along (waves hand))
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To: Bobalu

"While doing my job, I learned that fiber optic cables from the secret room were tapping into the Worldnet (AT&T's internet service) circuits by splitting off a portion of the light signal,"

Yea, cuz that's how fiber optics work. Though that's what we do for China... there's no need to tap a fiber cable when the switch is a few meters farther away. Just saying...


71 posted on 04/08/2006 6:13:12 AM PDT by Bogey78O (<thinking of new tagline>)
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To: Eastbound

Carnivore.


72 posted on 04/08/2006 6:59:00 AM PDT by doberville
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To: SubGeniusX

"illegals, border" sends the item straight into the "ignore" pile ;)


73 posted on 04/08/2006 7:00:52 AM PDT by thoughtomator (A nation that cannot or will not control its borders is not a nation at all)
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To: the invisib1e hand

"I haven't bothered to mention your "Identity" or financial information."

I have nothing to hide! I'm happy to support the Security State in whatever form the nameless, faceless bureaucrats in Washington want me to. I'm a Patriot. :)


74 posted on 04/08/2006 7:10:21 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Bobalu
It's kind of a hobby for me too. I've spent years (mostly lurking) on the cypherpunk mailing list. (there are internet archives going back almost a decade). People have no idea of the current tech the government can make use of to snoop on them. It's only going to get worse.

Apparently "terrorism" is the root password to the Constitution. 

75 posted on 04/08/2006 10:29:56 AM PDT by zeugma (Anybody who says XP is more secure than OS X or Linux has been licking toads.)
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To: traviskicks

ping


76 posted on 04/08/2006 10:41:57 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: the invisib1e hand

It won't be NSA that does that, it'll be an extension of Clinton's medical "privacy" act.

Most of that happens now; has nothing to do with NSA or CIA.


77 posted on 04/08/2006 4:10:43 PM PDT by DBrow (Can't we all get along?)
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To: freepatriot32; albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; Americanwolfsbrother; AlexandriaDuke; ...
Libertarian ping! To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
78 posted on 04/08/2006 6:01:07 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/israel_palestine_conflict.htm)
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To: Squantos
I'm gonna' have that put on the back of my business cards.

Maybe I'll check to see if anyone has it as a vanity plate yet.

79 posted on 04/08/2006 6:19:29 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

You using them CD Business cards ?........:o)


80 posted on 04/08/2006 7:04:50 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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