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Evolution: If It Walks Like a Fish ...
Newsweek ^ | 17 April 2006 issue | Jerry Adler

Posted on 04/09/2006 4:52:29 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: muir_redwoods
At some point some creationist or ID-iot will demand to see the missing link between zebras and horses with stripes on just one side.

The QUAGGA!!! (It only had stripes on the front side...)


141 posted on 04/10/2006 8:21:51 AM PDT by WildHorseCrash
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To: fizziwig
As well as the claims of athiests that science proves their belief.

Wait, now you're slinging mud? Sheesh....

142 posted on 04/10/2006 8:45:21 AM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: shuckmaster
Well, they make elbow macaroni.

Chalk up another one to the Pastafarians!

143 posted on 04/10/2006 9:19:45 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A dying theory since 1859.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

ID is heretical science in the same way that Hinduism is heretical Christianity.


144 posted on 04/10/2006 9:41:50 AM PDT by Thatcherite (I'm Pat Henry, I'm the real Pat Henry, All the other Pat Henry's are just imitators...)
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To: ScottfromNJ

Why do you think that article is interesting?


145 posted on 04/10/2006 9:49:09 AM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: ScottfromNJ
Good reading: http://www.darwinismrefuted.com/irreducible_complexity_02.html

Sorry. Bad reading that appeals to the reader's ignorance. The evolution of the vertebrate eye has been well understood for decades. Which is why all but the most dishonest creationist publications (evidently beloved by at least some here) have given up on pretending that the eye represents some kind of problem for evolution. Try again.

146 posted on 04/10/2006 9:54:49 AM PDT by Thatcherite (I'm Pat Henry, I'm the real Pat Henry, All the other Pat Henry's are just imitators...)
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To: Thatcherite

"Bad reading that appeals to the reader's ignorance"

Another angered response by an evolutionist. Why so testy ? Guess the article hit a nerve.


147 posted on 04/10/2006 10:37:36 AM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: ScottfromNJ

What is it in the article that you think would hit a nerve?


148 posted on 04/10/2006 10:40:42 AM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: ScottfromNJ
Another angered response by an evolutionist. Why so testy ? Guess the article hit a nerve

Seeing endlessly refuted non-arguments that even most ardent creationists have given up on repeated as if they were saying something clever does tend to make me testy. Thinking that people who know nothing of biology can spot something as obvious as "the eye cannot be the product of evolution" which somehow the 99% of professional practicing biologists who spend their lives studying the subject haven't noticed is fatuous beyond belief; the most fruitloop kind of conspiracy-theory nonsense. Having Christianity and conservatism associated with militant ignorance and neo-luddism does hit a nerve, true. Note that even ID promoters such as Behe, Denton, Dembski, Meyer et al acknowledge that the evolutionary pathway for eyes is well understood.

BTW when I said that the evolution of the eye was understood decades ago I was wrong. I forgot that Darwin himself outlined the necessary intermediate stages from no eye at all to modern vertebrate eye and pointed out modern creatures and fossils that had/have those intermediates. So anyone promoting that "eye is too complex to have evolved" argument without recognising that it has already been refuted is 150 years out of date, not mere decades.

149 posted on 04/10/2006 12:07:27 PM PDT by Thatcherite (I'm Pat Henry, I'm the real Pat Henry, All the other Pat Henry's are just imitators...)
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To: Thatcherite

Don't hit yourself too hard. Fifteen decades is still decades.

There are still geocentrics hiding in the caves waiting for the defeat of Copernicus.


150 posted on 04/10/2006 12:12:06 PM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: ScottfromNJ
Another angered response by an evolutionist.

I failed to see a great deal of anger in Thatcherite's response. Moreover, I am puzzled as to why you ignored Thatcherite's justification of the claim of ignorance. Why is that?
151 posted on 04/10/2006 12:24:10 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: ScottfromNJ

Take the non-junk regions, such as working genes and the similarity is nearer 99% than 95%. The comparison in that study is a flat comparison that includes redundant regions


152 posted on 04/10/2006 2:57:12 PM PDT by bobdsmith
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