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Don't distort science to promote religious beliefs, say scientists [in the UK]
Scotsman.com ^ | 11 April 2006 | TIM ROSS

Posted on 04/10/2006 6:34:06 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

LEADING scientists have warned against the teaching of Christian theories such as creationism in school biology lessons.

The Royal Society demanded that ministers make sure children learn the value of genuine science. [The Royal Society.]

The society defended Darwin's theory of evolution, insisting it represented the best explanation for the development of life on Earth.

The statement from Britain's leading scientific organisation followed a long-running row over claims that some of Tony Blair's flagship city academies teach creationism in science lessons.

Creationism includes a belief that all forms of life have always existed in their present form and that the world was formed in 4004BC, rather than 4,600 million years ago, as scientists believe.

The Royal Society statement said: "Science has proved enormously successful in advancing our understanding of the world, and young people are entitled to learn about scientific knowledge, including evolution.

"They also have a right to learn how science advances, and that there are, of course, many things that science cannot yet explain.

"Some may wish to explore the compatibility, or otherwise, of science with various beliefs, and they should be encouraged to do so.

"However, young people are poorly served by deliberate attempts to withhold, distort or misrepresent scientific knowledge and understanding in order to promote particular religious beliefs."

Academics in the US have also voiced concern over similar theories being taught in American schools. One such theory is known as "intelligent design".

This suggests that some species are too complex to have evolved through natural selection - as most scientists believe - and must therefore be the product of a "designer".

It was claimed that schools in the north-east of England backed by one academy sponsor, Christian millionaire Sir Peter Vardy, were promoting creationism alongside conventional evolutionary scientific theory. The King's Academy in Middlesbrough, which Sir Peter sponsored, has denied that it taught creationism.

Professor David Read, vice-president of the Royal Society, said: "We felt that it would be timely to publish a clear statement on evolution, creationism and intelligent design as there continues to be controversy about them in the UK and other countries."


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Everybody be nice.
1 posted on 04/10/2006 6:34:09 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 04/10/2006 6:35:21 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Being nice isn't evolutionarily sound. The nice ones get eaten.


3 posted on 04/10/2006 6:37:34 PM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: PatrickHenry
"However, young people are poorly served by deliberate attempts to withhold, distort or misrepresent scientific knowledge and understanding in order to promote particular religious beliefs."

Amen. Disagree with evolution if you like. I certainly am skeptical. But Christians are poorly served by the "Creation science" hacks when they misrepresent the facts. It makes Chrstianity look silly.

4 posted on 04/10/2006 6:39:00 PM PDT by jude24 ("The Church is a harlot, but she is my mother." - St. Augustine)
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To: PatrickHenry
Science has proved enormously successful in advancing our understanding of the world

Oh yeah, Thats all we need. More understanding of this world.

5 posted on 04/10/2006 6:40:08 PM PDT by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: PatrickHenry

"LEADING (atheist) scientists have warned against the teaching of Christian theories such as creationism in school biology lessons"


6 posted on 04/10/2006 6:40:50 PM PDT by stm (You can fix a lot of things, but you can't fix stupid)
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To: PatrickHenry

My prediction: As long as both science and religion both exist, the battle will not end.

Even though there is a large middle ground where both could exist, that's not where the troops can be rallied.


7 posted on 04/10/2006 6:41:07 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: jude24
Saint Augustine:
Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he holds to as being certain from reason and experience.

Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men.

If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learned from experience and the light of reason?


8 posted on 04/10/2006 6:44:51 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: Dog Gone

Reminds me of that Simpsons episode, where the Judge issuses an order for Religion to stay 50 feet away from science at all times.


9 posted on 04/10/2006 6:44:58 PM PDT by Hong Kong Expat
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To: saganite
Being nice isn't evolutionarily sound. The nice ones get eaten.

I'd rather go hunting with people whom I've been nice to and who have been nice to me.

There's a lot to be said for cooperative, social behavior.

BTW, Darwin was a member of the Royal Society.

10 posted on 04/10/2006 6:46:12 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: saganite
Being nice isn't evolutionarily sound. The nice ones get eaten.

Sorry, that happens not to be the case.

The nice ones had friends to back them up.

The nasty ones got banned banished, then they got eaten.

11 posted on 04/10/2006 6:46:21 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Interim tagline: The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: Virginia-American

Lions exhibit cooperative social behavior but I wouldn't want to cross them. From my perspective they are "not nice" but they are evolutionary winners.


12 posted on 04/10/2006 6:49:56 PM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: saganite
Being nice isn't evolutionarily sound.

Evolutionary psychology has much to say in praise of social behavior.

13 posted on 04/10/2006 6:50:23 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Delta 21
Oh yeah, Thats all we need. More understanding of this world.

You are against knowledge? That is truly sad.

But, here's a nice quote for you. Enjoy!

What are the facts? Again and again and again - what are the facts? Shun wishful thinking, ignore divine revelation, forget what 'the stars foretell,' avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors think, never mind the unguessable 'verdict of history' - what are the facts, and to how many decimal places? You pilot always into an unknown future; facts are your only clue. Get the facts!

Robert A. Heinlein, Time Enough for Love, 1973


14 posted on 04/10/2006 6:50:32 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Interim tagline: The UN 1967 Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: jude24

Creation science make alot more sense to me than macro-evolution.


15 posted on 04/10/2006 6:51:12 PM PDT by Rodm (Seest thou a man diligent in his business? He shall stand before kings)
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To: PatrickHenry
Don't distort science to promote religious beliefs, say scientists [in the UK]

Right, they have their won religion. It doesn't involve Psi or God (aside from Quantum Physics.)

16 posted on 04/10/2006 6:53:25 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (I alone, am the chosen one. Because I alone, did the choosing.)
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To: Rodm

That disclosure does you credit


17 posted on 04/10/2006 6:58:25 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Red meat, we were meant to eat it - Meat and Livestock Australia)
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To: PatrickHenry

I'm always nice, you creep.


18 posted on 04/10/2006 6:58:59 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: stm

I see, because there are only two kinds of people in this world: Creationists and Atheists.

Gotcha.


19 posted on 04/10/2006 6:59:01 PM PDT by non-anonymous
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To: Dog Gone

Which one will win?


20 posted on 04/10/2006 7:02:21 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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