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Christians Win Free Speech Victory Against ACLU In New York
Stop The ACLU ^ | 10-Apr-06 | John Stephenson

Posted on 04/11/2006 6:41:45 AM PDT by Jay777

A federal judge has ordered an upstate New York school district to return bricks inscribed with Christian messages to a high school walkway, and a pro-family civil liberties attorney is praising the outcome as a victory against viewpoint discrimination.

The dispute arose after the Mexico Academy High School class of 1999 in Mexico, New York (Oswego County), sold bricks that could be inscribed with personal messages and included in a walkway as a fundraiser. However, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) complained that certain bricks, particularly those inscribed with the messages gJesus Saves/John 3:16 and gJesus Christ, the only way,h constituted public school endorsement of Christianity.

The ACLU maintained that the bricks violated the so-called gseparation of church and state,h and the groupfs complaints prompted school officials to remove the contested bricks in 2000. Other bricks purchased by private individuals bore messages that referred to God or to local churches but were allowed to remain in place; only the bricks mentioning Jesus were taken out of the walkway.

Leave it to the ACLU to complain that upholding the first amendment actually violates it. How much more twisted can logic be and still be called logical. Seriously, according to ACLU logic the first amendment violates the first amendment!! The school encouraged people to express themselves individually, and because they did not act to censor Christian expressions, the ACLU concludes they have endorsed it. And then through legal threats the school caved in and censored them! Insanity!

(Excerpt) Read more at stoptheaclu.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aclu; aclulist; antichristian; christian; firstamendment; freespeech; moralabsolutes
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1 posted on 04/11/2006 6:41:45 AM PDT by Jay777
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2 posted on 04/11/2006 6:42:27 AM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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Leave it to the ACLU to complain that upholding the first amendment actually violates it.

The ACLU has never been for civil liberties.

3 posted on 04/11/2006 6:45:24 AM PDT by TBP
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To: Jay777

So it looks like the ACLU was championing the cause of violating these students' civil rights.


5 posted on 04/11/2006 6:53:22 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: TBP

I once heard an ACLU spokesperson say on the radio that the government could show favoritism to any religion except Christianity, because Christianity is the majority religion. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. This stands the intent of the framers on its head; they believed that the government could and should show favoritism towards what they called "general Christianity," i.e., non-sectarian Christianity, which was understood as the moral foundation of society. Thus we have the practice of swearing on the Bible and myriad other practices which gave Christinity pride of place in society, while generally allowing freedom of religion for non-Christians. (I say "generally" because there were regrettable instances where this did not happen, as when Indian children were separated from their parents and forced into church-run schools.)


6 posted on 04/11/2006 6:55:07 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: TBP

So True. It is not for free speech it is anti-Christianity.


7 posted on 04/11/2006 6:56:26 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: Jay777
"The ACLU: Fueling Anti-Semitism for Five Decades"
8 posted on 04/11/2006 7:12:22 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Jay777

I see the Anti-Christ Litigation Union is still working hard to advance their cause.

"The ACLU, working hard to defend and preserve the individual rights and liberties of every athiest in the United States, regardless of age, race, gender, sexual preferences, or what the Constitution has to say!"


The ACLU was established in 1920. Its co-founder Roger Baldwin candidly stated, "I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately, for abolishing the state itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal. It all sums up into one single purpose -- the abolition of dog-eat-dog under which we live. I don't regret being part of the communist tactic. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I wanted what the communists wanted and I traveled the United Front road to get it."


9 posted on 04/11/2006 7:16:52 AM PDT by SvdByFaith ("I am sending you out like sheep among wolves..." Matthew 10:16)
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To: Jay777

Your free speech ends where the ACLU doesn't like what you say.


10 posted on 04/11/2006 7:27:56 AM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: Jay777

Bump


11 posted on 04/11/2006 7:39:10 AM PDT by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: Jay777

Good News!

The Anti Christian Lawyers Union isn't used to losing in court. They usually have one of their card carrying judges making the rulings.


12 posted on 04/11/2006 7:49:30 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: Jay777

ACLU.

American Communist Liberals United (against God, family, America's sovereign Constitution, moral integrity, freedom of religion and free speech, the right for only non violent citizens to own guns, military and police holding criminals responsible for their crimes, etc. etc. etc.
ACLU
American Anti-Christ Legions (from the )Underworld secular humanist perverts united to destroy Christian American moral standards and replace them with no smoking, no thinking signs, no freedom, love is the answer IF you agree with their hate filled, hateful, arrogant, ignorant, unholy, unthankful, ungodly perverted lifestyles.
The seed of evildoer's will never be renowned.As it is written in the scriptures of Jesus Christ the Lord;
II Timothy 3:
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.


13 posted on 04/11/2006 7:57:30 AM PDT by ohhhh (...and the rulers of the people take council against God and his anointed(Christ) saying...)
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To: Grampa Dave

And there are a LOT of them in NY.The same people who are crying, because sane people are leaving the state in droves.


14 posted on 04/11/2006 8:18:35 AM PDT by xarmydog
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"And there are a LOT of them in NY. The same people who are crying, because sane people are leaving the state in droves."

Sometimes I think that we need to make the left wing Blue Cities like NY City, Chicago, LA and San Francisco separate states. Then the rest of us can have a decent state government.


15 posted on 04/11/2006 8:27:47 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: Grampa Dave

I say that is a great idea.Canada has lots of room,and their social policies would fit them to a tee.


16 posted on 04/11/2006 8:45:57 AM PDT by xarmydog
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To: xarmydog

I can't get any of the whining rats in N California to move to Canada. I have tried.


17 posted on 04/11/2006 8:48:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
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To: Grampa Dave

Thats too bad.N.California is some pretty country.But, no matter how pretty the countryside,it is still liberal wasteland!


18 posted on 04/11/2006 8:56:40 AM PDT by xarmydog
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To: Grampa Dave
Thats too bad.N.California is some pretty country.But, no matter how pretty the countryside,it is still liberal wasteland!No offense to you of course.
19 posted on 04/11/2006 8:57:27 AM PDT by xarmydog
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To: Jay777
"A federal judge has ordered an upstate New York school district to return bricks inscribed with Christian messages to a high school walkway, and a pro-family civil liberties attorney is praising the outcome as a victory against viewpoint discrimination ... Leave it to the ACLU to complain that upholding the first amendment actually violates it. How much more twisted can logic be and still be called logical. Seriously, according to ACLU logic the first amendment violates the first amendment!! The school encouraged people to express themselves individually, and because they did not act to censor Christian expressions, the ACLU concludes they have endorsed it. And then through legal threats the school caved in and censored them! Insanity! "

The ACLU represents a perfect example of Orwellian double-think!

- From Rudyard Kipling by George Orwell

"All left-wing parties in the highly industrialized countries are at bottom a sham."

"A humanitarian is always a hypocrite."


20 posted on 04/11/2006 9:09:00 AM PDT by George - the Other (400,000 bodies in Saddam's Mass Graves, and counting ...)
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