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Fossil Find Is Missing Link in Human Evolution, Scientists Say
National Geographic News ^ | April 13, 2006 | John Roach

Posted on 04/13/2006 12:18:35 PM PDT by Senator Bedfellow

When the famous skeleton of an early human ancestor known as Lucy was discovered in Africa in the 1970s, scientists asked: Where did she come from?

Now, fossils found in the same region are providing solid answers, researchers have announced.

Lucy is a 3.5-foot-tall (1.1-meter-tall) adult skeleton that belongs to an early human ancestor, or hominid, known as Australopithecus afarensis.

The species lived between 3 million and 3.6 million years ago and is widely considered an ancestor of modern humans.

The new fossils are from the most primitive species of Australopithecus, known as Australopithecus anamensis. The remains date to about 4.1 million years ago, according to Tim White, a biologist at the University of California, Berkeley.

White co-directed the team that discovered the new fossils in Ethiopia (map) in a region of the Afar desert known as the Middle Awash.

The team says the newly discovered fossils are a no-longer-missing link between early and later forms of Australopithecus and to a more primitive hominid known as Ardipithecus.

"What the new discovery does is very nicely fill this gap between the earliest of the Lucy species at 3.6 million years and the older [human ancestor] Ardipithecus ramidus, which is dated at 4.4 million years," White said.

The new fossil find consists mainly of jawbone fragments, upper and lower teeth, and a thigh bone.

The fossils are described in today's issue of the journal Nature.

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According to White, the discovery supports the hypothesis that Lucy was a direct descendent of Australopithecus anamensis.

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To: DesScorp; Alter Kaker
Kaker, this is a conservative website, not a nutjob libertarian website.

True, but then no one said differently.

You want to slander us and our faith, go to DailyKos, they'll welcome you there.

Where do you imagine he "slandered you and your faith"? This should be fun...

Oh, and Lucy wasn't human.

Not fully human in the modern sense, no, but she was much more human than most other extinct apes, something which the anti-evolutionists are hard-pressed to explain.

Lucy was a monkey.

Wow, what a bizarre claim. Please attempt to substantiate it. I'm just dying to be "educated" by someone who lacks even the knowledge of the difference between monkeys and apes.

And with certain exceptions, Men are not monkeys.

No, but we are apes -- apes of the human variety. Humans are *still* apes (and still primates, still eutherians, still mammals, still synapsids, still tetrapods, still vertebrates, still chordates, still eukaryotes, etc.)

If you disagree, please name one or more diagnostic features of the ape clade (i.e., features which apes have exclusive of all other animals, which can be used to identify a member of the ape group) which humans do not also share.

41 posted on 04/13/2006 1:29:57 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: mdmathis6
There have been a multitude of "missing links" that have come and gone over the years...

I'm not sure what your point is. Both Australopithecus afarensis and Ardipithecus ramidus have been hailed as "missing links" (a somewhat weird and useless label only useful to headline writers in the news media) and this find connects part of a gap between the two. What are you confused by?

42 posted on 04/13/2006 1:30:11 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: manwiththehands
Not today. I've had enough pro-evolution tap dancing and BS to last me until next Christmas.

Thank you for your pointless and empty anti-evolution tap dancing. It shows which side has all the evidence, and which has just bitter one-liners.

43 posted on 04/13/2006 1:31:22 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: Iscool
You can pay big bucks to go to school to learn that archeology language or you can save your money and just call here the 'short one'...

Before you shell out the big bucks to know what you're talking about, it might be useful to learn the difference between archaeology and anthropology. Just a suggestion...

Not much to go on...Maybe it was a German Shepherd...

Or you could shell out the big bucks and learn how to distinguish hominid and canine bones.

44 posted on 04/13/2006 1:32:54 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Ichneumon

Why do you care whether or not someone believes "Lucy" was human? Does your life revolve around evolution? Sure seems like it. And you seem to take it so personally. Maybe in real life you are a nice, kind, decent person but we wouldn't know from your posts.

Happy Easter. (Hope that doesn't offend you)


45 posted on 04/13/2006 1:33:43 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Senator Bedfellow; Coyoteman; Travis McGee

Thank you for this very interesting post Senator and thanks also to Coyoteman for your illustration. bttt


46 posted on 04/13/2006 1:34:17 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: Iscool
Not much to go on...Maybe it was a German Shepherd...

And maybe you're unaware of the just how stupid someone would have to be to make such an elementary mistake.

Look, if you have a legitimate objection to the findings, let's hear it, but the sort of "I don't know anything about paleontology but I'm going to hand-wave away the results of those who do" stuff that has been rolling in on this thread is just juvenile.

47 posted on 04/13/2006 1:34:28 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: mlc9852
Why do you care whether or not someone believes "Lucy" was human?

Nobody believes Lucy was human. Nobody. Where did this bizarre strawman come from?

48 posted on 04/13/2006 1:34:49 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker

Why does it always come down to blanket insults?


49 posted on 04/13/2006 1:34:53 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: mlc9852
Does your life revolve around evolution?

My life doesn't revolve around evolution (although it depends on it, just as your life does). I just find it distressing that so many ignorant people are doing so much to hinder the scientific education of so many by propogating silly counter-factual strawmen.

50 posted on 04/13/2006 1:36:43 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker

Depends from it would be closer.


51 posted on 04/13/2006 1:38:19 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Old Professer
Why does it always come down to blanket insults?

Because there's nothing to debate. Every week, some new transitional fossil gets discovered, and every day some creationist will post that no transitional fossils at all have ever been discovered. It's frustrating that no amount of evidence will ever convince the bizarrely dogmatic that they are wrong.

52 posted on 04/13/2006 1:38:21 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: mlc9852
Why do you care whether or not someone believes "Lucy" was human?

I don't. Why would you leap to that conslusion?

I do, however, care whether people MISREPRESENT the facts out of ignorance or an attempt to misinform or spread false propaganda.

Does your life revolve around evolution?

No, does yours?

Sure seems like it.

You get a lot of false impressions. Perhaps you should work on that.

And you seem to take it so personally.

See above. Your perceptiveness is not too keen.

Maybe in real life you are a nice, kind, decent person but we wouldn't know from your posts.

You'd know it from my posts too if you were as astute as you'd like to believe.

Happy Easter. (Hope that doesn't offend you)

Why on Earth would that offend me? Jumping to more wrong conclusions about me, perhaps?

53 posted on 04/13/2006 1:39:27 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: Alter Kaker

I agree, but the people whom you impolitely characterize have feelings.


54 posted on 04/13/2006 1:39:34 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Believing God created humans isn't silly or ignorant. You insults are actually insulting so I suppose you should consider it a job well done. And my life does not depend on my ancestors being apes. My ancestors were human, created by God. Don't know for sure about yours.


55 posted on 04/13/2006 1:39:53 PM PDT by mlc9852
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To: Senator Bedfellow

56 posted on 04/13/2006 1:42:50 PM PDT by Bobalu (This is not the tag line you are looking for.....move along (waves hand))
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To: mlc9852
Believing God created humans isn't silly or ignorant.

No, not at all. I myself believe God created humans. An overwhelming amount evidence suggests that evolution was the mechanism He used to do so -- to deny that evidence, I'm afraid, is both silly and ignorant if only because it is so supremely overwhelming.

57 posted on 04/13/2006 1:43:19 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Senator Bedfellow
...What the new discovery does is very nicely fill this gap...

Well, it has to go somewhere, why not fill one of those pesky gaps?

58 posted on 04/13/2006 1:44:03 PM PDT by KMJames
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To: Old Professer
I agree, but the people whom you impolitely characterize have feelings.

Politeness only gets you so far. Sooner or later you have to say, enough is enough.

59 posted on 04/13/2006 1:48:35 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker

So Genesis is just a big joke to you? I think God already explained how he did it.


60 posted on 04/13/2006 1:49:24 PM PDT by mlc9852
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