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Saddam and Osama: The New Revelations
Front Page Magazine ^ | April 17, 2006 | Jamie Glazov

Posted on 04/13/2006 11:00:08 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Thomas Joscelyn, an expert on the international terrorist network. Much of his research has focused on the role that nations such as Saddam's Iraq and the mullah's Iran have played in providing support, training and funding for terrorist entities such as al Qaeda, al Qaeda's affiliates, Hamas, Hezbollah and other terrorist groups. He has written extensively about these connections for the Weekly Standard and in several other publications. Currently, he is organizing a research project to review and translate the millions of documents captured from the fallen Iraqi regime and the Taliban.

Joscelyn: For the past several years, American forces have been collecting documents and other pieces of media from the fallen regimes in Iraq and Afghanistan. Many of the Iraqi documents were authored by Saddam’s intelligence apparatus, the Mukhabarat (Iraqi Intelligence Service), while many of the documents captured in Afghanistan were authored by al Qaeda operatives or the Taliban. To date, less than 5% of the documents have been reviewed. So, out of a total of 2 million documents, only about 100,000 documents (give or take) have been reviewed.

One IIS document, in particular, has received significant attention. The document was apparently authored in early 1997 and summarizes a number of contacts between Iraqi Intelligence and Saudi oppositionist groups, including al Qaeda, during the mid 1990’s. The document says that in early 1995 bin Laden requested Iraqi assistance in two ways. First, bin Laden wanted Iraqi television to carry al Qaeda’s anti-Saudi propaganda. Saddam agreed. Second, bin Laden requested Iraqi assistance in performing “joint operations against the foreign forces in the land of Hijaz.” That is, bin Laden wanted Iraq’s assistance in attacking U.S. forces in Saudi Arabia.

(Excerpt) Read more at frontpagemag.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedaandiraq; binladen; glazov; gnfa; gnfi; iraq; iraqiintelligence; prewardocs; saddam
Long article with lots of good info.
1 posted on 04/13/2006 11:00:10 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: eyespysomething

Prewar Docs PING


2 posted on 04/13/2006 11:00:40 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

Come on, President Bush. Get up there, make the case, and shut the traitors up. Then, send the illegals home and close the border.


3 posted on 04/13/2006 11:03:58 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland
Get up there, make the case, and shut the traitors up. Then, send the illegals home and close the border.

Then get gas back down to $.99/gallon.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

4 posted on 04/13/2006 11:09:47 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: FairOpinion

In related news, recently declassified Iraqi account of a 1995 meeting between Osama bin Laden and a senior Iraqi envoy presents a "significant set of facts," and shows a more detailed collaboration between Iraq and Al Qaeda. It appears that the duo had jointly written a script for a TV sitcom called "Osama bin Saddamized." The plot is autobiographical and features the hijinks of a wacky terrorist and his stern, but lovable mentor who is also the president of a Middle Eastern country called Quirkistan.

read more at...

http://www.azconservative.org/Column_Archives.htm


5 posted on 04/13/2006 11:16:54 PM PDT by John Semmens
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To: doug from upland
"Come on, President Bush. Get up there, make the case, and shut the traitors up. Then, send the illegals home and close the border. "

GWB absolutely does not want any restraint on our southern border. WE DO NOT HAVE A SOUTHERN BORDER!

6 posted on 04/13/2006 11:21:34 PM PDT by de Buillion (The USA needs a CONSERVATIVE political party NOW! (republicans don't qualify))
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To: jveritas

ping


7 posted on 04/14/2006 2:13:11 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (The Stations of the Cross in Poetry ---> http://www.wayoftears.com)
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bookmark


8 posted on 04/14/2006 3:23:34 AM PDT by federal
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To: eyespysomething

This article is an excellent read, fills in some gaps and maybe you could use your "prewardocs" ping list.


9 posted on 04/14/2006 4:46:01 AM PDT by Peach
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To: FairOpinion; Peach; jveritas; Chena; Valin; M. Thatcher; DocRock; Calpernia; Madame Dufarge; ...
Thanks FairOpinion and Peach, for the pings!

Saddam and Osama: The New Revelations

Release/Translation of Classified PreWar Docs ping. If you want to be added or removed to the ping list, please Freepmail me.

Please add the keyword prewardocs to any articles pertaining to this subject.

Operation Get The Truth Out

Operation Iraqi Freedom Documents

Documents from the Harmony Database

jveritas’s blog

Ray Robison’s blog

10 posted on 04/14/2006 4:53:13 AM PDT by eyespysomething (American liberals like everything about the struggle for freedom except the struggle.)
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To: eyespysomething

I should have read down; you're getting double pings, I see :-)


11 posted on 04/14/2006 4:54:51 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Peach

That's alright, because I'd rather get pinged one or more times, than not at all!


12 posted on 04/14/2006 4:58:19 AM PDT by eyespysomething (American liberals like everything about the struggle for freedom except the struggle.)
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To: ducks1944; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; ziggy_dlo; TrueBeliever9; maestro; TEXOKIE; My back yard; ..
Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Thomas Joscelyn, an expert on the international terrorist network. Much of his research has focused on the role that nations such as Saddam's Iraq and the mullah's Iran have played in providing support, training and funding for terrorist entities such as al Qaeda, al Qaeda's affiliates, Hamas, Hezbollah and other terrorist groups. He has written extensively about these connections for the Weekly Standard and in several other publications. Currently, he is organizing a research project to review and translate the millions of documents captured from the fallen Iraqi regime and the Taliban.
13 posted on 04/14/2006 5:13:03 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: eyespysomething

Ping!





::ducks!::


14 posted on 04/14/2006 5:13:32 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: doug from upland

Well, we are not potted plants. Maybe there is a strategy to empowering the citizens. The Minutemen got a wink and a nod...now the docs were released to us.


15 posted on 04/14/2006 5:16:08 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: John Semmens

Just in case you missed some of the translations

http://www.freerepublic.com/~jveritas/

Might be useful for your column.


16 posted on 04/14/2006 5:19:09 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia; eyespysomething; Peach; FairOpinion; jveritas; Grampa Dave; Marine_Uncle; Coop; ...
More info on Saddam ties to Terrorists:

April 13, 2006
Coalition Forces Kill AQIZ Ambassador

**********************************AN EXCERPT ***********************************

al-Kurdi also had extensive ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamist organization which spawned the modern terrorist organizations such as Egyptian Islamic Jihad, HAMAS, and al-Qaeda.

Strangely enough, it appears al-Kurdi was detained by the Kurdish Peshmerga in the spring of 2002, prior to the invasion of Iraq, and divulged connection between al-Qaeda and Ansar Al-Islam,and Saddam Hussein:

"Halabja [Northern Iraq] – Local security officials in Al-Suleimaniya warn that some members of 'Ansar Al-Islam' [previously named 'Army of Islam,' i.e. Jund Al-Islam], Al-Qa'ida and the Taliban who were driven out of Afghanistan by Operation Anaconda, have now joined the battle-front in northern Iraq… New information surfaces daily about ties between Ansar Al-Islam, bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. One of the security officials said that the Iraqi government has been providing secret financial support and training to Ansar Al-Islam in order to weaken the Kurdish opposition…" "Some Kurdish commanders are minimizing the danger of Ansar Al-Islam…" "The organization has only a few hundred fighters, but it controls several Kurdish villages in northern Iraq, close to the Iranian border and on the fringes of the area protected by the U.S."

"The information about the ties between Ansar Al-Islam and Al-Qa'ida came from Rafid Ibrahim Fattah {aka Abu Umar al-Kurdi , an Iraqi who was arrested by the forces of Jalal Al-Talabani [in northern Iraq]… He had fled from Baghdad in the mid 1980's and lived in a refugee camp in Tehran…"

Apparently al-Kurdi slipped the Kurdish net and was able to join al-Qaeda's terror campaign in Iraq. al-Kurdi joins the long list of experienced al-Qaeda 'middlemen' killed or captured, such as Suliman Darwish (Syrian), Abdullah al-Rashood (Saudi) and Abu Azzam and Abu Tahla (Iraqis).

By Bill Roggio | Posted April 13, 2006 |

17 posted on 04/14/2006 6:11:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Calpernia

ping to me

>>>"The information about the ties between Ansar Al-Islam and Al-Qa'ida came from Rafid Ibrahim Fattah {aka Abu Umar al-Kurdi , an Iraqi who was arrested by the forces of Jalal Al-Talabani [in northern Iraq]… He had fled from Baghdad in the mid 1980's and lived in a refugee camp in Tehran…"<<<


18 posted on 04/14/2006 6:18:21 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Ansar al-Islam is made up of subgroups such as: Tawhid and Sunnah Brigade and associated with Jaish Ansar al-Sunnah. Dozens of people with ties to Ansar al-Islam have been arrested and tried in Germany over the past several several years.


19 posted on 04/14/2006 7:11:20 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1083778/posts
Saddam's Ambassador to al-Qaeda *(The Smoking Gun)*

Excerpts:

A RECENTLY INTERCEPTED MESSAGE from Iraq-based terrorist Abu Musab al Zarqawi asking the al Qaeda leadership for reinforcements reignited the debate over al-Qaeda ties with Saddam Hussein's fallen Baath regime. William Safire of the New York Times called the message a "smoking gun," while the University of Michigan's Juan Cole says that Safire "offers not even one document to prove" the Saddam/al-Qaeda nexus. What you are about to read bears directly on that debate. It is based on a recent interview with Abdul Rahman al-Shamari, who served in Saddam's secret police, the Mukhabarat, from 1997 to 2002, and is currently sitting in a Kurdish prison. Al-Shamari says that he worked for a man who was Saddam's envoy to al-Qaeda.

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>>>This statement echoed an independent Kurdish report from July 2002 alleging that ordnance seized from Ansar al Islam was produced by Saddam's military and a Guardian article several weeks later alleging that truckloads of arms were shipped to Ansar from areas controlled by Saddam.<<<

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>>>Muhammed told Goldberg that Abu Wael was "the actual decision-maker" for Ansar al Islam and "an employee of the Mukhabarat."<<<

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Al-Shamari also told me that the links between Saddam's regime and the al-Qaeda network went beyond Ansar al Islam. He explained in considerable detail that Saddam actually ordered Abu Wael to organize foreign fighters from outside Iraq to join Ansar. Al-Shamari estimated that some 150 foreign fighters were imported from al Qaeda clusters in Jordan, Turkey, Syria, Yemen, Egypt, and Lebanon to fight with Ansar al Islam's Kurdish fighters.

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Al-Shamari said that there was also contact with the Egyptian "Gamaat al-Jihad," which is now seen as the core of al Qaeda's leadership, as well as with the Algerian Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC), which bin Laden helped create in 1998 as an alternative to Algeria's Armed Islamic Group (GIA). Al-Shamari talked of Abu Wael's links with Turkey's "Jamaa al-Khilafa"--likely the group also known as the "Union of Islamic Communities" (UIC) or the "Organization of Caliphate State." This terror group, established in 1983 by Cemalettin Kaplan, reportedly met with bin Laden in Afghanistan in 1997, and later sent cadres there to train. Three years before 9/11, UIC plotted to crash a plane into Ankara's Ataturk Mausoleum on a day when hundreds of Turkish officials were present.

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Al-Shamari said that importing foreign fighters to train in Iraq was part of his job in the Mukhabarat. The fighters trained in Salman Pak, a facility located some 20 miles southeast of Baghdad. He said that he had personal knowledge of 500 fighters that came through Salman Pak dating back to the late 1990s; they trained in "urban combat, explosives, and car bombs." This account agrees with a White House Background Paper on Iraq dated September 12, 2002, which cited the "highly secret terrorist training facility in Iraq known as Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and non-Iraqi Arabs receive training on hijacking planes and trains, planting explosives in cities, sabotage, and assassinations."

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Zarqawi, as the prisoner explained, was al-Qaeda's link to Iraq in the same way that Abu Wael was the Iraqi link to al-Qaeda. Indeed, Zarqawi (who received medical attention in Baghdad in 2002 for wounds that he suffered from U.S. forces in Afghanistan) and Abu Wael helped Ansar al Islam prepare for the U.S. assault on its small enclave last year. According to al-Shamari, Ansar was given the plan from the top Iraqi leadership: "If the U.S. was to hit [the Ansar base], the fighters were directed to go to Ramadi, Tikrit, Mosul . . . Faluja and other places." This statement agreed with a prior prisoner interview I had with the attempted murderer of Barham Salih, prime minister of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan. This second prisoner told me that "Ansar had plans to go south if the U.S. would attack."




http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1598144/posts
Documents confirm Saddam Hussein government knew Zarqawi headed Al Qaeda cell in Iraq in August 2002
http://www.lauramansfield.com ^ | March 17, 2006 | By Laura Mansfield

March 17, 2006: Documents confirm Saddam Hussein government knew Zarqawi headed Al Qaeda cell in Iraq in August 2002

Documents released Thursday by the US government show that less than a year after the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States, Saddam Hussein’s government had identified at least one active Al Qaeda cell in his country.

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20 posted on 04/14/2006 7:26:15 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: StillProud2BeFree

StillProud, is this group

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1614840/posts?page=20#20

>>>Al-Shamari said that there was also contact with the Egyptian "Gamaat al-Jihad," which is now seen as the core of al Qaeda's leadership<<<

Related to this group?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1614192/posts

>>>Egypt has released 950 jailed members of the militant Islamist group Gamaa Islamiya. Some of them have been in prison since the assassination of President Anwar Sadat 25 years ago.<<<


21 posted on 04/14/2006 7:28:04 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks. Playing catchup mode today.


22 posted on 04/14/2006 7:42:15 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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http://www.iss.co.za/af/profiles/Egypt/egypt1.html
gamaat al jihad and gamaa islamiya


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Security situation[1]

Tension between Egypt and Sudan increased in mid-1995 after Egypt’s President, Hosni Mubarak, accused Sudan’s military junta of complicity in the attempt on his life in Ethiopia. Following the accusation, clashes between Sudanese and Egyptian troops took place in the disputed Red Sea border region of Halaib.

In late 1999, it was estimated that Egypt had nearly one million men under arms, roughly evenly split between the armed forces and the internal security establishment. The government has been locked in a low-intensity, counter-insurgency campaign against extremist Islamic fundamentalists of the Gamaa Islamia, or Islamic Association, which seeks to topple the secular administration and establish an Islamic state.

Over the past two years the internal security situation has been improving. Fatalities due to terrorist violence in 1998 totalled 47. No attacks on tourists were recorded and no foreigners were killed. This is the lowest number of fatalities since monitoring began in 1992.

Extremist Islamists – including Gamaat Islamiya and Al-Jihad – have been responsible for the intensification of violence since 1992, aimed at the overthrow of the regime. A new and more targeted security policy in the aftermath of the 1997 Luxor massacre has resulted in a notable termination of violent incidents. Gamaat Islamiya announced a ceasefire in 1999, and Al-Jihad followed suit in 2000. Both now appear to have chosen to emulate the Muslim Brotherhood by supporting the formation of the Islamist Reform party and Sharia Party respectively.[2]

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23 posted on 04/14/2006 7:54:19 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: FairOpinion; Tony Snow
These documents can save this Administration! Why are they not SCREAMING this from every bully pulpit they have? Why isn't this running on Fox News as a Gong worthy Alert?

Damn, the truth shall set you free, but hell if we can't free the truth!
24 posted on 04/14/2006 7:56:22 AM PDT by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: Calpernia

PONG!!


25 posted on 04/14/2006 8:00:10 AM PDT by eyespysomething (American liberals like everything about the struggle for freedom except the struggle.)
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gamaat al jihad and gamaa islamiya

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1985:
==spring > [•X] There is widespread agitation in Egypt for the complete adoption of Islamic law. About this time, Al Jihad, Al Gamaat (also known as Gamaa Islamiya), and other extreme Islamist groups are beginning to revive.

26 posted on 04/14/2006 8:02:51 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: eyespysomething

27 posted on 04/14/2006 8:04:45 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: de Buillion

The democrap party doesn't want any restriction on the Southern border either ... they are already counting the fraudulent ballots they will garner for 2006 and 2008. We The People are the true sovereigns of this nation but OUR elected representatives (our employees, if you will) are not doing our bidding; the pubbies want the money from industry employing illegals andc the democraps want the fraudulent votes, so we the people are being encouraged to shut up and take it, AGAIN.


28 posted on 04/14/2006 8:24:24 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: eyespysomething

Thanks for the ping, interesting article.


29 posted on 04/14/2006 9:25:38 AM PDT by jazusamo (-- Married a WAC in '65 and I'm still reenlisting. :-)
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To: eyespysomething

Thanks for the ping and the related links!!
R. Lee Emery for Press Secretary!!!!!!


30 posted on 04/14/2006 8:48:20 PM PDT by FlashBack (www.teamamericapac.org)
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To: MHGinTN
"The democrap party doesn't want any restriction on the Southern border either ... they are already counting the fraudulent ballots they will garner for 2006 and 2008."

That is VERY obvious- GWB is erroneously trading Republican votes from the base, from recently acquired Blacks, and from many responsible Latinos for a very few votes from illegal immigrants. They are ALL gonna vote Dem, if they vote at all, which they probably won't. So it's an idiotic position for a republican president, even if he ain't running.

31 posted on 04/14/2006 10:19:46 PM PDT by de Buillion (The USA needs a CONSERVATIVE political party NOW! (republicans don't qualify))
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To: de Buillion

Yes to your reply, and yes to your tagline. The GOP has ben hijacked.


32 posted on 04/14/2006 10:22:36 PM PDT by ChiefBoatswain
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To: de Buillion

First, I thank God Bush was chosen over Goreghoul or Kerryfairy. That said, I tend to think Bush is cuzzying up to Fox (who rules a modern feudal state) because a revolution in Mexico that installs a Chavez type leadership would be very bad for the U.S. Link that to the lobbying pressure from business to keep the supply of cheap (below American average wages) labor flowing and I don't think there is any mystery why things on illegals are in a stalemate ... it is a given that the democrap party is salivating over illegals, as a new race problem ---and the democraps have a long history of exploiting racial tension they do so much to create-- and the new source of dumbed down voters for democrats and a broad field from which to defraud votes.


33 posted on 04/14/2006 10:41:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: ChiefBoatswain

The GOP has "gone astray", as far as representing "people". They now represent big corporations, and not conservative citizens. (Does that sound democrat?) I do remember the failed attempts of George Wallace and Ross Perot with their American Party/American Patriot Party/ whatever. Third parties don't fare well in this country. But, mark my words, Republicans aren't going to fare very well in Nov 06, and Nov 08, depending on the war situation, which is the great wild card.


34 posted on 04/14/2006 10:44:57 PM PDT by de Buillion (The USA needs a CONSERVATIVE political party NOW! (republicans don't qualify))
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To: de Buillion

If the democraps regain control of either branch of Congress, we can watch millions being spent on impeachment and repeal of the tax cuts accompanied by social program expansion designed to guarantee that less than fifty percent of the people pay the taxes while more than fifty percent get a dole of one kind or another. And we can forget about constuctionists on the subpreme court and throughout the federal court system. And you want to talk about illegals and porous borders along with impotence in dealing with worldwide terrorism and Islamism?


35 posted on 04/14/2006 10:52:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

I also thank God that GWB was President on 9/11/2001 and still is for the War on Terror. Can anyone imagine a Jimmah Cahtah, or AlGore, or BJClinton or Hildebeast instead? Might as well have Michael Moore in charge. But I believe that GWB is "confused" about our border problems. But please remember, a big part of "homeland security" is border integrity, currently nonexistant.


36 posted on 04/14/2006 11:00:15 PM PDT by de Buillion (The USA needs a CONSERVATIVE political party NOW! (republicans don't qualify))
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To: de Buillion

If I were trying to get personnel and materials for terrorism into the U.S. I sure wouldn't try it at a border which is so volatile, I'd concentrate movement on the Canadian porous placid border.


37 posted on 04/14/2006 11:11:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: jveritas

Thank you.


38 posted on 04/14/2006 11:19:53 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: MHGinTN
"And you want to talk about illegals and porous borders along with impotence in dealing with worldwide terrorism and Islamism? "

I really am concerned about all the OTM's that are known to be crossing our southern border- from terrorist nations- I think that that should concern you as well. Maybe I don't really understand what you are disagreeing with me about?????

39 posted on 04/15/2006 9:51:46 PM PDT by de Buillion (The USA needs a CONSERVATIVE political party NOW! (republicans don't qualify))
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To: de Buillion

See #37 above.


40 posted on 04/15/2006 9:58:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking the keyword or topic Israel.

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41 posted on 04/18/2006 5:30:14 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: Calpernia

Is that a repeating animation or actual game of Pong? It is hard to see any difference!


42 posted on 04/18/2006 5:33:18 PM PDT by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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To: doug from upland

I think the president has grown weary.


43 posted on 04/18/2006 7:03:51 PM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: rwfromkansas

bump to use in my article....


44 posted on 04/19/2006 6:26:34 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://xanga.com/rwfromkansas)
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To: eyespysomething; rmlew
Repeating animation? Oh no! Eyespysomething and I have been playing Pong for days now!


45 posted on 04/19/2006 8:12:12 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; bannedfromdu; Beckwith; ...

TS MSM MI ping


46 posted on 04/19/2006 8:18:44 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Order of Battle: Sink or capture as Prize, MS Media)
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To: Calpernia; rmlew

LOL! There can be only one! Give up now!


47 posted on 04/19/2006 10:18:14 PM PDT by eyespysomething (American liberals like everything about the struggle for freedom except the struggle.)
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