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Maine: Governor signs smoking, cell record, profiteering bills
United Pro Smoker's Newsletter ^
| April 14, 2006
Posted on 04/15/2006 4:17:28 AM PDT by SheLion
AUGUSTA, Maine --Private clubs will have new procedures to follow when they vote on whether to allow smoking.
Gov. John Baldacci on Thursday signed into law a bill that will allow club smoking policy to be decided by a majority of club members who return ballots, rather than a majority of all of a club's members.
The new law will correct what critics saw as a flaw in the current procedure, in which smoking policy is decided by a majority of each club's members. Critics said that poses problems because many club members are inactive or can't be located when voted are held.
The Legislature killed a separate bill that would have banned smoking in private clubs that have paid employees
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"club smoking policy to be decided by a majority of club members who return ballots, rather than a majority of all of a club's members."Huh???
If anyone understands this, please fill me in!
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posted on
04/15/2006 4:17:31 AM PDT
by
SheLion
To: The Foolkiller; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; Judith Anne; lockjaw02; ...
Gov John Baldacci
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posted on
04/15/2006 4:19:08 AM PDT
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: All
To all my FReeper friends:
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posted on
04/15/2006 4:32:39 AM PDT
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: SheLion
If anyone understands this, please fill me in!Say a club, the Elks for instance, has 1,000 members. The way the law was originally written, if they sent out 1,000 ballots and only 500 were returned and the split was 400 for smoking and 100 against, that would not stand as the 500 unreturned ballots would have all been counted as against.
The new law fixes it so that only the returned ballots are counted and so in our example the pro-smokers would win.
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posted on
04/15/2006 4:38:12 AM PDT
by
metesky
("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
To: SheLion
"
Gov. John Baldacci on Thursday signed into law a bill that will allow club smoking policy to be decided by a majority of club members who return ballots, rather than a majority of all of a club's members."
Surely, their time in Augusta could have been better spent.
Well, you know what they say: "Small men, small issues..."
AV
Aroostook Beauty.com
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posted on
04/15/2006 5:05:06 AM PDT
by
Atomic Vomit
(www.aroostookbeauty.com)
To: Atomic Vomit
"
Surely, their time in Augusta could have been better spent."
On second thought, their time would be much better spent if they spent less of it in Augusta.
These intrusive politicians need to spend less time on the "job". Please.
AV
Aroostook Beauty.com
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posted on
04/15/2006 5:09:11 AM PDT
by
Atomic Vomit
(www.aroostookbeauty.com)
To: metesky
The new law fixes it so that only the returned ballots are counted and so in our example the pro-smokers would win.Thank you metesky. I couldn't wrap my mind around what he was trying to say. I'm surprised that he didn't just come out and BAN private club smoking. He is such an anti!
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posted on
04/15/2006 5:21:41 AM PDT
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: Atomic Vomit
Surely, their time in Augusta could have been better spent.Well, you know what they say: "Small men, small issues..."
Well, to the Vets in Maine, this is a hot topic. And we have been holding our breath until we saw the outcome.
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posted on
04/15/2006 5:23:20 AM PDT
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: SheLion
"
And we have been holding our breath until we saw the outcome."
Good pun if you meant it, Shelion!
AV
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posted on
04/15/2006 5:25:37 AM PDT
by
Atomic Vomit
(www.aroostookbeauty.com)
To: Atomic Vomit
Well, you know what they say: "Small men, small issues..."And this ISN'T a small issue! If Vets in Maine are small, then I guess you can call them small!
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posted on
04/15/2006 5:28:18 AM PDT
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: Atomic Vomit
Good pun if you meant it, Shelion!Excuse me??
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posted on
04/15/2006 5:30:30 AM PDT
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: SheLion
Anyone who believes a business is public property is a Marxist.
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posted on
04/15/2006 5:37:25 AM PDT
by
sergeantdave
(Communism is 3 people voting on what's for dinner but you still get the same old rice)
To: SheLion
Yes, this issue is not small. It is microscopic.
That the Maine legislature and governor would occupy themselves in debate and lawmaking over the details of voting in any private organization is evidence that they have too much time and too little to do.
And who was talking about the Vets? It's not all about you, SheLion.
I've reconsidered about the smallness of such an issue: It's not microscopic, SheLion, it's sub-atomic (without the vomit).
AV
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posted on
04/15/2006 5:51:06 AM PDT
by
Atomic Vomit
(www.aroostookbeauty.com)
To: Atomic Vomit
And who was talking about the Vets? It's not all about you, SheLion.Not about ME????? I was married to a Viet Nam Vet for 34 years! Not about ME? heh!
Ralph retired up here at Loring Air Force Base in 91 after 26 years of service, (4 years with the Army and two Purple Hearts and the Meritorious Service Medal among many others) and went to work at DFAS until the base closed!
I am quite eligible to go to the VFW and the American Legion!! I will have my military ID until the day I die!!!!!
You will NEVER know my friend!
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posted on
04/15/2006 6:27:22 AM PDT
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: sergeantdave
Hence the name "John Bald-Marxist"
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posted on
04/15/2006 6:50:13 AM PDT
by
230FMJ
(...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
To: SheLion
If anyone understands this, please fill me in! <<
Ok heres the scoop...our local Vets club (which has always allowed smoking...but was forced by the STATE to have a vote)recently voted via mailed ballot...82 to continue to allow smoking...43 against...BUT!!!!!..the 76 members that did not return ballots were counted as AGAINST....Hence! NO SMOKING!...I wish the state had used that logic for the gov Race...everyone that didn't vote...voted against Baldacci!!
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posted on
04/15/2006 7:18:09 AM PDT
by
M-cubed
(Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
To: SheLion
How about Federal legislation saying that smokers will not be covered by any Federal medical insurance, such as Medicare, Medicaid, if they get a disease associated with tobacco use.
(I can hear the bricks hitting my windows already.)
To: pleikumud
How about Federal legislation saying that smokers will not be covered by any Federal medical insurance, such as Medicare, Medicaid, if they get a disease associated with tobacco use. Fine as long as we are reimbursed for every penny we've paid into the system..........and are no longer required to pay into the system.
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posted on
04/15/2006 7:41:26 AM PDT
by
Gabz
(Smokers are the beta version)
To: SheLion
That guy sure looks like a stooge to me.
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posted on
04/15/2006 8:14:36 AM PDT
by
383rr
(Those who chose security over liberty deserve neither; GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
To: SheLion
It has me stumped as well. I was hoping you could enlighten us!
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posted on
04/15/2006 8:15:24 AM PDT
by
gidget7
(PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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