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The Generals' revolt
WND ^ | Ap 15 06 | Buchanan

Posted on 04/15/2006 8:14:44 AM PDT by churchillbuff

In just two weeks, six retired U.S. Marine and Army generals have denounced the Pentagon planning for the war in Iraq and called for the resignation or firing of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

Washington Post columnist David Ignatius, who travels often to Iraq and supports the war, says that the generals mirror the views of 75 percent of the officers in the field, and probably more.

This is not a Cindy Sheehan moment.

This is a vote of no confidence in the leadership of the U.S. armed forces by senior officers once responsible for carrying out the orders of that leadership. It is hard to recall a situation in history where retired U.S. Army and Marine Corps generals, almost all of whom had major commands in a war yet under way, denounced the civilian leadership and called on the president to fire his secretary for war.

As those generals must be aware, their revolt cannot but send a message to friend and enemy alike that the U.S. high command is deeply divided, that U.S. policy is floundering, that the loss of Iraq impends if the civilian leadership at the Pentagon is not changed.

The generals have sent an unmistakable message to Commander in Chief George W. Bush: Get rid of Rumsfeld, or you will lose the war.

Columnist Ignatius makes that precise point:

"Rumsfeld should resign because the administration is losing the war on the home front. As bad as things are in Baghdad, America won't be defeated there militarily. But it may be forced into a hasty and chaotic retreat by mounting domestic opposition to its policy. Much of the American public has simply stopped believing the administration's arguments about Iraq, and Rumsfeld is a symbol of that credibility gap. He is a spent force. ..."

With the exception of Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, the former head of Central Command who opposed the Bush-Rumsfeld rush to war, the other generals did not publicly protest until secure in retirement. Nevertheless, they bring imposing credentials to their charges against the defense secretary.

Major Gen. Paul Eaton, first of the five rebels to speak out, was in charge of training Iraqi forces until 2004. He blames Rumsfeld for complicating the U.S. mission by alienating our NATO allies.

Marine Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold, director of operations for the Joint Chiefs up to the eve of war, charges Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith with a "casualness and swagger that are the special province of those who have never had to execute these missions – or bury the results."

Maj. Gen. John Batiste, who commanded the Army's 1st Division in Iraq, charges that Rumsfeld does not seek nor does he accept the counsel of field commanders. Maj. Gen. John Riggs echoes Batiste. This directly contradicts what President Bush has told the nation.

Maj. Gen. Charles J. Swannack, former field commander of the 82nd Airborne, believes we can create a stable government in Iraq, but says Rumsfeld has mismanaged the war.

As of Good Friday, the Generals' Revolt has created a crisis for President Bush. If he stands by Rumsfeld, he will have taken his stand against generals whose credibility today is higher than his own.

But if he bows to the Generals' Revolt and dismisses Rumsfeld, the generals will have effected a Pentagon putsch. An alumni association of retired generals will have dethroned civilian leadership and forced the commander in chief to fire the architect of a war upon which not only Bush's place in history depends, but the U.S. position in the Middle East and the world. The commander in chief will have been emasculated by retired generals. The stakes could scarcely be higher.

Whatever one thinks of the Iraq war, dismissal of Rumsfeld in response to a clamor created by ex-generals would mark Bush as a weak if not fatally compromised president. He will have capitulated to a generals' coup. Will he then have to clear Rumsfeld's successor with them?

Bush will begin to look like Czar Nicholas in 1916.

And there is an unstated message of the Generals' Revolt. If Iraq collapses in chaos and sectarian war, and is perceived as another U.S. defeat, they are saying: We are not going to carry the can. The first volley in a "Who Lost Iraq?" war of recriminations has been fired.

In 1951, Gen. MacArthur, the U.S. commander in Korea, defied Harry Truman by responding to a request from GOP House leader Joe Martin to describe his situation. MacArthur said the White House had tied his hands in fighting the war.

Though MacArthur spoke the truth and the no-win war in Korea would kill Truman's presidency, the general was fired. But MacArthur was right to speak the truth about the war his soldiers were being forced to fight, a war against a far more numerous enemy who enjoyed a privileged sanctuary above the Yalu River, thanks to Harry Truman.

In the last analysis, the Generals' Revolt is not just against Rumsfeld, but is aimed at the man who appointed him and has stood by him for three years of a guerrilla war the Pentagon did not predict or expect.


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What do generals know about war? What do men who made the defense of the United States know about patriotism?
1 posted on 04/15/2006 8:14:45 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

MacArthur was right to speak the truth about the war his soldiers were being forced to fight


2 posted on 04/15/2006 8:17:41 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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Are these generals hold overs from the Kinton regime and have some sort of axe to grind? What general worth his salt dosen't think that he knows better than the next guy up the chain of command? If they had the balls, why did they not speak up when they were on active duty?


3 posted on 04/15/2006 8:17:55 AM PDT by Meadow Muffin
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Bring back trench warfare./s


4 posted on 04/15/2006 8:18:49 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: churchillbuff
a guerrilla war the Pentagon did not predict or expect.""

Not true. Bush and Rummy were warned by the generals that they'd need many more troops for post-invasion stabilization of Iraq.

5 posted on 04/15/2006 8:19:02 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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And speaking of revolting, why, heeere's PAT!


6 posted on 04/15/2006 8:19:57 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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Are these generals hold overs from the Kinton regime and have some sort of axe to grind?"""

No, they've been commanding men in Iraq and they know that Rummy's policy of too-few troops, too poorly provisioned, was wrong from the beginning and has cost lives.

7 posted on 04/15/2006 8:20:13 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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Doesn't mean they're not Clinton holdovers. It's not as though a new president is going to purge all the old generals. This isn't Russia. (yet)


8 posted on 04/15/2006 8:21:09 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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Pat cites another great general, MacArthur, who also had the courage to blow the whistle on incompetent civilian "leadership"


9 posted on 04/15/2006 8:21:13 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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Czar Nicholas was deposed and then executed by the Bolsheviks. Wonder why Buchana picked him to compare to Bush?


10 posted on 04/15/2006 8:22:25 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC
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To: churchillbuff


11 posted on 04/15/2006 8:22:39 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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BUsh and Rummy were publicly warned by more than one general that they weren't sending enough troops. I'm glad that these (different) generals, aren't letting the public forget that, because it was a monumental mistake.


12 posted on 04/15/2006 8:22:45 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Meadow Muffin

Most I believe are holdouts from the Klintonista days. These are the new Wesly Clarks and the left are going to do their best to make hay with them. Just like Cindy SH!t-han they will be discarded once they have outlived their usefullness to the MSM. They now have book deals and speaking engagements to promote and are saying what the MSM want to hear so they can promote them. These clowns don't have the balls, obviously, because they waited until they retired to guarantee their pensions before they opened their pieholes. Don't get me wrong, I admire their service to this country just as I do Murtha's but just like him they have "jumped the shark". I'll stick with Norman and Tommy when I want a general's opinion. They are proven winners.


13 posted on 04/15/2006 8:24:07 AM PDT by unionblue83
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Not all generals are great military men....just good pentagon politicians....

5 generals out of several hundred retired generals/admirals is hardly an issue....

This is much ado about nothing except that the liberal media wants so deperately to have the military agree with their anti-war stance they'll grab at a few malcontentents as validation of their misguided and innapropriate stance.....

It's laughable at best....


14 posted on 04/15/2006 8:24:40 AM PDT by nevergore (“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
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These generals just spit on our troops in the field; if they thought this, they should have resigned and spoken out then, not wait for full retirement,and the benefits that go along with them. These retired generals get no respect from this citizen.


15 posted on 04/15/2006 8:24:53 AM PDT by Laverne
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If Bush fires Rumsfeld it will appear to be a weak move in response to public criticism. But, the fact that so many Generals are pointing the finger at SecDef (the civilian in charge of the military) is a problem and cannot simply be brushed aside by those who worship at the altar of Rummy.

His leadership style is far from warm and fuzzy and he pisses people off. I have no opinion on that as he is not supposed to be a diplomat and it isn't his job to appease the egos of Generals. However, too many of them say that he buts his nose into affairs of planning and engagement, he doesn't want to listen to the people who's job it is to carry out the plans and that he wants Yes men.
16 posted on 04/15/2006 8:25:36 AM PDT by misterrob (Teach a Liberal to think for himself and he'll vote Conservative for the rest of his life.)
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Columnist Ignatius makes that precise point: "Rumsfeld should resign because the administration is losing the war on the home front.

Ah, the drive by media's job is almost done.

17 posted on 04/15/2006 8:25:51 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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The most efficient war ever fought that included taking over a country and some back seat drivers think they could have done better.
18 posted on 04/15/2006 8:26:49 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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In just two weeks, six RETIRED U.S. Marine and Army generals have denounced the Pentagon planning for the war in Iraq and called for the resignation or firing of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.

Nuff said.
19 posted on 04/15/2006 8:27:41 AM PDT by Thoro (Then an accidental overdose of gamma radiation alters his body chemistry....)
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When an active duty commander speaks out, I will listen. Accusing the Sec Def of "swagger" sounds like a dem talking point rather than a credible charge of incompetence.
20 posted on 04/15/2006 8:28:19 AM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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