The Generals' revolt

WND ^ | Ap 15 06 | Buchanan

[hgro]

As usual, Pat hops on the bandwagon of these loser general officers. CNN loves these guys and good old brainless Pat loves anyone who knocks President Bush and his cabinet. Pat should stick to his day job of being the comedian on the McGlaughlin Group.

[churchillbuff]

I haven't heard of generals with this much spine since MacArthur. In Vietnam, the White House micromanaged the war and kept us from winning it, but he generals (who must have been furious) kept quiet. These Iraq WAr generals are showing more backbone.

[MizSterious]

According to you and several other Bush-haters.

[Reactionary]

Oh, gee. What do six generals out of thousands know about war?

Let's ask the liberals in the drive-by media who've fabricated this little exercise, shall we?

[Edgerunner]

MacArthur was relieved of his command by Truman. MacArthur wanted to go into China. Most Generals don't like civilian control, but that's the way we've always done it...

[MizSterious]

What it sounds like to me is, someone didn't like being passed over for that extra star.

[fizziwig]

"5 generals out of several hundred retired generals/admirals is hardly an issue...."
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Actually its a few thousand.....

Rumsfeld himself had about the same reply to these Generals....basically...its big deal what they say.

Monday morning quarterbacking is all it is......useless, except to aid and abet and enourage the enemy...and the democrats.

I'm glad Bush is supportive of Rumsfeld and caving to these self aggrandizing idiots.

[churchillbuff]

these loser general officers. ""

"Losers"? THey presided over the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Are you saying it's a loss? That's what your statement implies -- that they lost the war.

[Reactionary]

More to the point, however is the following:

Since this is, by your estimation, a "botched war," perhaps you should tell us who else has been able to take two countries with under three thousand casualties.

The idiocy of this meme is illustrated by the fact that even in the ancient world it didn't happen.

[Grampa Dave]

This BS should be printed on the following. This is the perfect place/use for the drive by shooting lies about GW like this BS.

[AntiGuv]

Maj. Gen. John Batiste was offered three stars if he returned to command in Iraq, but refused because he didn't want to 'work with' Rumsfeld anymore.

[fizziwig]

Correction....

Rumsfeld himself had about the same reply to these Generals....basically....its NO big deal what they say.

[churchillbuff]

I'm glad Bush is supportive of Rumsfeld ""

Yes, he hasn't been so supportive of an administration official since he said "Brownie" was doing a "Great job" at KAtrina.

[mkjessup]

Pat cites another great general, MacArthur, who also had the courage to blow the whistle on incompetent civilian "leadership"

MacArthur, for all of his military brilliance, was an ignoramus when it came to understanding the proper relationship between civilian control of the military, and he openly defied President Harry Truman in Korea, calling for expanded military operations against the Communist Chinese at a time when the U.S. nuclear deterrent consisted of no more than 13 atomic bombs of slightly improved Fat Man design, and those weapons were needed in the event Stalin decided to invade Western Europe, not to be applied against wave after human wave of Communist Chinese troops who would have overwhelmed the U.S./U.N. forces in Korea, and literally driven them to the sea. MacArthur did not know that, Truman did.

Make no mistake, I consider MacArthur a patriot, but he was unable to accept the fact that it was the President, not the generals in the field, who Constitutionally have the authority to make decisions as to how the military is utilized.

As for Buchanan, for all his historical knowledge and political comprehension, he has lost most of the credibility that he once had, which is why most Buchanan articles receive the comment "Pat, can we hear that in the original German?"

America is at war, and contrary to what these disgruntled officers are piping up with, the war will not be won or lost depending upon who is the SecDef, and Rumsfeld is THE most qualified SecDef we've had in there for over a decade.

I stand with Rummy.

[geezerwheezer]

Hey, Rummy ain't perfect, but I'll take him over any of these lame-brained generals who retire then criticize. Time to lay it on the line is when you are THERE, not later after you QUIT because you didn't get it the way you wanted it. I'm glad Rummy ran off these losers, and I hope he can find a way to make 'em pay. He should recall them to active duty and put them in charge of cleaning the ladies' latrines or something, then they would have a reason to bit**. Other than that, STFU losers!!

[Right_in_Virginia]

Care to define what you mean by "spine"?

[churchillbuff]

Make no mistake, I consider MacArthur a patriot, ""

So do I, and he performed an eternal service by letting Americans know that Truman was sending their sons to die without a commitment to win the war.

[G.Mason]

" ... It's laughable at best...."

One hundred percent correct!

[churchillbuff]

Care to define what you mean by "spine"?"""

Courage. The courage to tell hard truths about the mismanagement of this war -- knowing that they'd be ganged up on by Bush-bots.

[Mr Rogers]

Bush cannot afford to fire Rumsfeld. Nor will Rumsfeld resign.

I'm not sure what the generals are trying to achieve. It could be to let the public know that a lot of senior military on active duty despise Rumsfeld and do not trust his judgment.

It could also just be disgust venting.

Rumsfeld at this point is already a lame duck SecDef. Congress doesn't respect his opinions enough to care about what he says on acquisition. The brass are digging in their heels to slow any changes he wants to make until after he leaves. He's already lost the fight to 'transform' the military - look at the QDR.

Rumsfeld was good for the military during his first 3 years or so - there was a lot of shaking up to do. However, he's outlived his usefulness. Unfortunately, he doesn't realize that.