Posted on 04/17/2006 8:40:37 AM PDT by jveritas
That is "Pink Panther" for bump.
Special Ammunition is not any other ammunition, what is special about 155 mm shells if it does not contain Chemical Weapons. The Iraqi used the term "Special Ammunition" exclusively to designate "Chemical Weapons".
SittinYonder,
Not only did jveritas translate this from one of the documents, it was also noted in the book "Saddam's Secrets" by Georges Sada. Former General Sada wrote that there were unique names for WMD weapons and ammo and that "Special Weapons" or "Special Ammunition" was reserved exclusively for chemical weapons.
When I saw Joseph's translation, I thought, Georges was right. It makes me think Georges may be right about a lot more too. Time will tell
Thanks for the ping.
You know, I have all of JV's translation on my Blog. With each one I gave my own analysis, for what's it's worth.
But I haven't seen many contradictions.
I've take all of these translations and put them into a spreadsheet. I headed the columns...date translated, date of document, FreePURL, Harmony URL, and subject.
Now I can sort them by any of the above categories. Even with only about 17 do far, there's a pattern emerging.
This is preliminary so don't hold me to it, but it appears that for six months leading up to the invasion many other countries were getting involved with Iraq. One has Russia selling Saddam a bunch of ammuniton when a)there was supposed to be sanctions and who at the UN approved this sale under oil for food; and b)the Russians HAD to know that the weapons they were selling to Saddam would be used against American troops.
Also around that time we got French and German stuff going on, meetings with Saddam.
Around the invasion we've got some translations all involving chemical weapons of some sort.
See, this is how this thing is going to go down. They'll not be a smoking gun...okay one smoking gun, more on this later.
It's going to be a trend, a pattern that will emerge, clear and sharp. A pattern that logical people can deduce the truth.
Okay, my prediction on a smoking gun....I oughta charge you for this ;). I think it's possible that JV will find some document(S) that implicate some major politicos right here in America.
THAT will be a smoking gun. Probably something involving the French, the CIA, reaching right into the White House.
Absent this, an enticing thought, huh?...the truth will come out with the trend.
Just so y'all know I'm still on top of this.
I think the WMD went to Syria is almost beyond dispute. The Russians had the so-called "Sarindar plan" to move WMD the Russians sold to middle easter countries out of those middle eastern countries if it ever looked like the west (the U.S.) was going to invade.
I've posted this a couple of times, but I enjoy posting it, so here's more that I think shows almost conclusively that WMD went to syria:
"Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper, head of the National Imagery and Mapping Agency, said vehicle traffic photographed by U.S. spy satellites indicated that material and documents related to the arms programs were shipped to Syria."
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=10547
"Last month Moshe Yaalon, who was Israel's top general at the time, said Iraq transported WMD to Syria six weeks before Operation Iraqi Freedom began.
Last March, John A. Shaw, a former U.S. deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said Russian Spetsnaz units moved WMD to Syria and Lebanon's Bekaa Valley.
"While in Iraq I received information from several sources naming the exact Russian units, what they took and where they took both WMD materials and conventional explosives," Mr. Shaw told NewsMax reporter Charles Smith.
Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong was deputy commander of Central Command during Operation Iraqi Freedom. In September 2004, he told WABC radio that "I do know for a fact that some of those weapons went into Syria, Lebanon and Iran."
In January 2004, David Kay, the first head of the Iraq Survey Group which conducted the search for Saddam's WMD, told a British newspaper there was evidence unspecified materials had been moved to Syria from Iraq shortly before the war.
"We know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD program," Mr. Kay told the Sunday Telegraph.
Also that month, Nizar Nayuf, a Syrian journalist who defected to an undisclosed European country, told a Dutch newspaper he knew of three sites where Iraq's WMD was being kept. They were the town of al Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria; the Syrian air force base near the village of Tal Snan, and the city of Sjinsar on the border with Lebanon.
In an addendum to his final report last April, Charles Duelfer, who succeeded David Kay as head of the Iraq Survey Group, said he couldn't rule out a transfer of WMD from Iraq to Syria.
"There was evidence of a discussion of possible WMD collaboration initiated by a Syrian security officer, and ISG received information about movement of material out of Iraq, including the possibility that WMD was involved. In the judgment of the working group, these reports were sufficiently credible to merit further investigation," Mr. Duelfer said."
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06036/649858.stm
"The short answer to the question of where the WMD Saddam bought from the Russians went was that they went to Syria and Lebanon," former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense John A. Shaw told an audience Saturday at a privately sponsored "Intelligence Summit" in Alexandria, Va. (www.intelligencesummit.org).
http://newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/2/18/233023.shtml
"We are not talking about a large stockpile of weapons," he said. "But we know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD programme. Precisely what went to Syria, and what has happened to it, is a major issue that needs to be resolved."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/01/25/wirq25.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/01/25/ixnewstop.html
"Two days before the war, on March 17th, we saw through multiple intelligence channels - both human intelligence and techinical (satellite,eavesdrop) intelligence - large caravans of people and things, including some of the top 55 Iraqis, going to Syria."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1227810/posts
Right, and I shouldn't have said "so many." The big contradiction is that we've got documents that talk about WMD and that they had WMD.
But the contradiction is the only story the AP reported on about the document release, which was the "poor Saddam" story about translated tapes where he and other senior officials were talking about how they had no WMD but the US didn't believe them.
I hope that the facts and truth that these documents are revealing and what General Georges Sada is saying will be known by a much wider audience.
With Powerline and Hugh Hewitt both on this, I went back to see how many views this article had:
March 2003 Top Secret Memo: TRANSFER OF SPECIAL AMMUNITION (POTENTIAL CHEMICAL WEAPONS) Translation
Posted by jveritas
On News/Activism 04/17/2006 11:40:37 AM EDT · 246 replies · 5,997+ views
Nearly 6,000 people have seen this translation! That's pretty darn significant.
Way to go jveritas - the word is getting out!
Thanks for the update :)
Not certain how the views are counted, but I think it is likely that a reload or a refresh counts as one view....
I read the Powerline and Hewitt analysis. Plus the many other interpretations/suggestions.
They were all good, thoughtful, attempts to grasp the truth. That's okay.
If the mighty middle class wants this thing documented and history recorded correctly, we're gonna have to do it ourselves. Give us enough time we can get rid of the government completely. ;)
"I hope that the facts and truth that these documents are revealing and what General Georges Sada is saying will be known by a much wider audience."
So do I.
I didn't really know what to expect from General Sada's book when I bought it. I just knew I was hunting for the truth and the truth does not change based on whose side a person is on.
Thank you very much for all the work you have done on this issue!
Oh man, just getting ready for nighty night and you had to mention the "poor Saddam" story and get me all PO'd again :)
LOL ... that's one of my favorite bedtime stories! Keeps me up for days.
We;re getting closer to the truth here!
Anytime :)
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