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Everybody's Doing It: Abolish The Capital Gains Tax
GOPUSA ^ | April 17, 2006 | Rod D. Martin

Posted on 04/17/2006 12:38:25 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Well, the "spirit" of your argument is: "When taxes are down to 3% flat (across the board for fairness sake) the GDP is going to increase so significantly that 3% should cover it comfortably ! :)"

GDP would have to TRIPLE for your "spirit" to even be in the right neighborhood.


41 posted on 04/17/2006 3:07:45 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
OK, lets tax corporate profits by 38%, then, tax dividends (distributions of the remaining profit amount) at, say, the upper bracket rate of what, 28%? Where are we? Oh, about 66% tax on the same earnings! Then, if you make money with a gain on the stock we tax it again, but if you lose, you can only deduct $3000 of the loss.

Who is greedy? The evil stock holder? No, the government, and especially the Democrat party that endorses this seizure of taxpayer money and the destruction of wealth....
42 posted on 04/17/2006 3:09:54 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: clawrence3

NNNNNNNNNOOOOOooooooo !!! The SPIRIT of my argument is you can raise productivity AND tax revenue by lowering tax rates! The numbers were thrown in just to make a point!


43 posted on 04/17/2006 3:40:53 PM PDT by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: clawrence3
I understand all about "hidden" taxes - my concern is that there are lots of people who pay less than 23% even taking into account all of those "hidden" taxes.

Then they will pay their FAIR share. That's why it's called the FAIR TAX.

About half the country pays NO FEDERAL INCOME TAX AT ALL. It's about time the poor contributed something instead of sucking off the tit of the productive. And I'll be happy to give em a job as the business climate explodes.

44 posted on 04/17/2006 4:52:32 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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To: ovrtaxt

We will have to agree to disagree then.


45 posted on 04/17/2006 5:01:59 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

I agree that cutting taxes (to a point) raises productivity AND tax revenues - but cutting the tax rate to ZERO would not raise any revenues, agreed?


46 posted on 04/17/2006 5:03:25 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: piytar
Come up with a way to prevent that from happening -- probably a Constitutional Amendment -- and I'm on board...

Then you maybe interested to know Fair Tax supporters are pushing for a concurrent repeal of the 16th Amendment Fair Tax FAQ #38 . In fact a House Joint Resolution HJR 16 was introduced on February 1, 2005 to repeal the 16th Amendment.

A Joint resolution has the same force of law as a bill. A joint resolution is generally limited to special circumstances and is also used to propose amendments to the Constitution. Under that purpose, it does not require a presidential signature and becomes part of the Constitution when three-fourths of the states ratify or approve
47 posted on 04/17/2006 5:10:00 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: stand watie
i try to "make time" to BEAT-ON the DAMNyankee haters

I'm not sure if you're referring to the anti Fair Tax crowd or those who hate my New York Yankees but either way I appreciate your support!
48 posted on 04/17/2006 5:15:40 PM PDT by Man50D
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To: freepatriot32; albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; Americanwolfsbrother; AlexandriaDuke; ...
Not a bad idea... :)





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49 posted on 04/17/2006 6:06:46 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/israel_palestine_conflict.htm)
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To: clawrence3

You are right that cutting ALL tax rates to zero would raise no tax revenues. But I believe the point being considered is reducing the tax rate on capital gains to zero. Under the present tax system, that would mean GDP would grow sharply and revenues for income tax on earnings plus payroll taxes would increase even more than the amount of cap gains taxes lost.

Check the years since the 2003 tax cuts and you will find we gained even more cap gains taxes alone than the amount of cap gains cut.


50 posted on 04/17/2006 6:08:40 PM PDT by n-tres-ted (Remember November!)
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To: groanup
We need a little pizzazz around here.

What am I, chopped liver? I guess I'm just NOT OFFENSIVE ENOUGH. hehe

(I'm liking my caps lock key today.)

51 posted on 04/17/2006 6:21:15 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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To: piytar

The FairTax bill does eliminate the income/payroll tax (and seveal others), eliminates the IRS, and requires the income tax records to be destroyed.

It also calls for the repeal of the 16th amendment. A tax bill cannot also be an amendment repeal bill since the requirements differ for the two. But the 16th repeal is veery much one of the things in the sights of the FairTax organization.


52 posted on 04/17/2006 7:00:44 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: King Prout

With the FairTax each tax[ayer would get to determine what are the necesities for him to spend funds for. government has no business being part of that decision at all.


53 posted on 04/17/2006 7:02:24 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: MBB1984

With the FairTax the marginal rate is the same for everyone. The prebate is also available to all lawful residents with a valid SSN if the so wissh.


54 posted on 04/17/2006 7:04:15 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Intersting that China has no capital gains tax... helps to explain their incredible capital creation right now.


55 posted on 04/17/2006 7:07:02 PM PDT by ran15
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To: ovrtaxt; stand watie
What am I, chopped liver?

LOL.

No, but compared to stand watie's War of Northern Aggression threads you are a potted plant.

He is truly the defender of the South. Save your confederate money overtaxt. With people like SW you may see it appreciate. I'll stand by stand watie to the death!!!

56 posted on 04/17/2006 8:19:40 PM PDT by groanup (Shred for Ian)
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To: n-tres-ted

I already agreed that cutting taxes (to a point - not 3%) raises productivity AND tax revenues - I also don't have a problem in principle abolishing the capital gains tax.


57 posted on 04/18/2006 2:50:00 AM PDT by clawrence3
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To: Bigun

The FairTax proposals all are designed to fund at current (high) levels.

I would far rather see a flat income tax, 10% across the board (or lower).


58 posted on 04/18/2006 5:05:19 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: dinodino
I would far rather see a flat income tax, 10% across the board (or lower).

Been there, done that and it grew back into the monster we have today. Anything that contains the words "income" and "tax" are off the table because of their obvious need for the modern equivalent of the Spanish inquisition for their administration. The government has no need to, and should not, know all that information.

Perhaps you should read Confessions of a Flat Taxer to see how one of the chief architects of the flat income tax feels about it today.

59 posted on 04/18/2006 5:20:33 AM PDT by Bigun (IRS sucks @getridof it.com)
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To: groanup

Oh, yes, I know! My mom is in the Daughters of the Confederacy, and my dad is in the SCV. Good people- but I prefer to invest my time with Jesus.


60 posted on 04/18/2006 1:26:32 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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