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04/20/06 FOX Poll: Gloomy Economic Views; Bush Approval at New Low
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192468,00.html ^

Posted on 04/20/2006 11:02:34 AM PDT by Grendel9

NEW YORK — More Americans disapprove than approve of how George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld and Congress are doing their jobs, while a majority approves of Condoleezza Rice. President Bush’s approval hits a record low of 33 percent this week, clearly damaged by sinking support among Republicans.

Opinions are sharply divided on whether Rumsfeld should resign as secretary of defense. In addition, views on the economy are glum; most Americans rate the current economy negatively, and twice as many say it feels like the economy is getting worse rather than better. These are just some of the findings of the latest FOX News national poll.

President Bush’s job approval rating slipped this week and stands at a new low of 33 percent approve, down from 36 percent two weeks ago and 39 percent in mid-March. A year ago this time, 47 percent approved and two years ago 50 percent approved (April 2004).

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; foxpoll; jobapproval; polls; term2
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I don't get it! I read through this article three times and cannot find one word about IMMIGRATION as a key issue re the 'latest drop' in Bush's performance record! Anyone of Bush's advisors can tell him he'd gain at least 40 points just by closing that *#^%$^U border! WHAT is GWB not understanding?!
1 posted on 04/20/2006 11:02:37 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: Grendel9

He's starting to remind me of his father, sorry to say.


2 posted on 04/20/2006 11:05:33 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: Grendel9
What gloomy economy?
Are these people idiots?
How are the questions asked?
3 posted on 04/20/2006 11:05:42 AM PDT by svcw
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To: Grendel9

Immigration and border control is potentially an incredible win-win issue for him. Whomever is advising Bush on this is doing a poor job.


4 posted on 04/20/2006 11:05:45 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Grendel9

Oh yea, and economy's TANKING. We're DOOOMED. /sarc

I mean, how *thick* one would have to be to believe that the economy is in trouble !? Helloooo ? Anyone see Dow go up almost 300pts this week ? In spite of high oil prices ? Hellooo ?

But yea. Close the border and see 20pts bounce, easy.


5 posted on 04/20/2006 11:06:36 AM PDT by farlander (Strategery - sure beats liberalism!)
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To: Grendel9
FOX Poll: Gloomy Economic Views;
In other news, the DOW + S&P HAVE REACHED 5 YEAR HIGHS
6 posted on 04/20/2006 11:07:59 AM PDT by HHKrepublican_2 (www.Rogers2006.com)
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To: Grendel9


So federal revenues are up 15% one year and 10% the next,

unemployment is at 4.7% and that equals doom and gloom?

When has perception ever trumpted reality.


7 posted on 04/20/2006 11:08:43 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Grendel9

Dang... if a Fox poll has him at 33%, he's in REALLY bad shape.
How on earth he can be rated so poorly on the economy is just beyond me... His PR staff is completely inept.


8 posted on 04/20/2006 11:08:53 AM PDT by ruschpa
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To: Grendel9

Not only that but what does Rummy have to do with the economy? W hasn't been listening to his constituents for a while now.


9 posted on 04/20/2006 11:09:22 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: Grendel9
I am anxiously awaiting the WH PR machine defenders response. Having Rove and McClenen leave this part of the White House could have not come too soon.

I don't get what's wrong with the American Sheeple. The economy (save energy prices) is doing very well if not better if you apply the Clinton and MSM standard on the mid and late 90's. And they think things are gloomy???
10 posted on 04/20/2006 11:09:23 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Grendel9

Not a problem. Change a couple of staffers and he will be back to full popularity in no time! (/sarcasm)


11 posted on 04/20/2006 11:09:57 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Grendel9
most Americans rate the current economy negatively, and twice as many say it feels like the economy is getting worse rather than better.

Who are these numbskulls???

12 posted on 04/20/2006 11:10:16 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: Grendel9

It's the economy, stupid. (so they say)
There is a direct correlation between Bush's poll numbers and the price of gasoline (Which should be 3.70 if it was 1.85 at 35.00/barrel it should be double, shouldn't it?)


13 posted on 04/20/2006 11:10:40 AM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: Grendel9

On a Fox Poll? That low?


That's a heck of a lot of people that voted for this man, that are very angry at him.


14 posted on 04/20/2006 11:11:04 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Procrastinators of the world UNITE!!!.....Tomorrow.)
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To: farlander
"Close the border and see 20pts bounce, easy."

... maybe even a 30+ bounce. I don't get it. This guy is up to his eyeballs in alligators, but still is showing more allegiance to the illegals than the citizens. There has got to be more to the story of immigration than anyone is letting on.
15 posted on 04/20/2006 11:11:22 AM PDT by mr_hammer (They have eyes, but do not see . . .)
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To: Grendel9

And nobody had better make a dumb comment like "He's not up for reelection again."
His popularity will have a direct effect on the mid term elections and what he is likely to accomplish.


16 posted on 04/20/2006 11:11:40 AM PDT by ruschpa
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To: Grendel9

Bush needs to learn from the Clinton PR model...plain and simple. If he pushed the good economy news that is really going on as much as he pushes the war on terror news the polls would be in the low 40s and not the low 40s. People also react to their pockets as far as gas, grocery, and insurance prices go...and those are through the roof.


17 posted on 04/20/2006 11:11:59 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: finnman69

His stubbornness on immigration is costing him his base. He's in too deep to flip flop like he did on Miers and Dubai. The race baiters on the left will eat him alive if he flips on immigration and conservatives will never agree to a guest worker program. It's a tough position to be in. His advisors have not been served well on this issue.


18 posted on 04/20/2006 11:12:02 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: The South Texan

They will probably issue an apology for the POTUS calling the NSA leak "a despicable act".


19 posted on 04/20/2006 11:12:07 AM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: griswold3

No, the two arent directly related. If oil jumps so does gasoline, however there is not a defined ratio. Supply and shipping has alot more to do with the actual price than the $/barrel does.


20 posted on 04/20/2006 11:12:14 AM PDT by HHKrepublican_2 (www.Rogers2006.com)
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To: ruschpa

You got that again...and bears repeating.


21 posted on 04/20/2006 11:12:39 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: Grendel9
Americans are more than twice as likely to rate the nation’s economy negatively as positively. Nearly 3 in 10 rate economic conditions as either "excellent" (6 percent) or "good" 22 percent, while the widespread consensus is gloomier: about 4 in 10 say the economy is "only fair" (42 percent) and another 30 percent say it is in "poor" shape.

The first sentence is not supported by the rest of the paragraph. "Fair" is neither positive or negative. The actual breakdown, from the above numbers, is 28% "positive", 30% "negative", and 42% mostly neutral.

Elsewhere, the article notes that only 17% of the 57% who disapprove of him (i.e., 9.7% of the overall sample) cite the economy as the reason for their disapproval.

And Fox is alleged to be a conservative news outlet?

22 posted on 04/20/2006 11:12:45 AM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: Para-Ord.45


Sadly, happens all the time.

the lib, idiot, spin machine that has no care for facts only electing their own bozo's will constantly churn out bad news until it works to their favor...


23 posted on 04/20/2006 11:13:06 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: Grendel9

I have met the enemy, and he is us. Well, not me, but certainly the one-issue Republicans who whine, threaten, and sulk if the President doesn't do or say exactly what they want on a particular issue. These sorts will lose the next election for the GOP.


24 posted on 04/20/2006 11:13:26 AM PDT by veronica ("A person needs a sense of mission like the air he breathes...")
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To: griswold3
There is a direct correlation between Bush's poll numbers and the price of gasoline

Therein lies Bush's problem. To voters, "The Economy" = Gas Prices. That's it. I live in a blue state, and after Iraq, the number one thing people at my workplace bash Bush over is gas prices. Every day, nonstop.

25 posted on 04/20/2006 11:13:56 AM PDT by BlackRazor
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To: Grendel9

"In addition, views on the economy are glum; most Americans rate the current economy negatively, and twice as many say it feels like the economy is getting worse rather than better."

I am dead serious when I say there should be a testing process before being allowed to vote. If people actually think this economy is gloomy, they have no business casting ballots. This is where the democratic process is flawed. Even retarded morons have a say.


27 posted on 04/20/2006 11:14:16 AM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: Grendel9

FOX is being taken over by the Left.


28 posted on 04/20/2006 11:14:28 AM PDT by balch3
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To: svcw

The whole country's listening to Willie Green?


29 posted on 04/20/2006 11:14:31 AM PDT by talleyman (Kerry & the Surrender-Donkey Treasoncrats - trashing the troops for 40 years.)
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To: Grendel9

Let gas get to $3/gal. all over the country and he'll be lucky to get 25% approval rating. The gas prices hit everyone, and that and immigration have cut Pres. Bush off at the knees. I can't believe that Rove hasn't caught on to what is happening to the vanishing Republican base.


30 posted on 04/20/2006 11:15:02 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: griswold3

You got it, gas prices. As long as it stays above $2.20 a gallon then Bush is topped at 45%. Below that price he could go to 55%-60%.


31 posted on 04/20/2006 11:15:09 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Grendel9
GWB understands very well. He just has made a conscious decision not to defend the border in any meaningful way regardless of the cost to the nation and the Republican Party. Further, he prefers to obfuscate the issue and condemn patriots. No wonder he is in a tailspin. And the issue is illegal immigration, not immigration. Even Freepers have succombed to using the misnomer, immigration. We already have a workable system for legal immigration.
32 posted on 04/20/2006 11:15:47 AM PDT by luvbach1 (More true now than ever: Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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To: trubluolyguy

W, I still love you!


33 posted on 04/20/2006 11:15:53 AM PDT by JFC (W, I am with YA)
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To: in hoc signo vinces

Thank God Rove has ditched, hopefully, his policy advisor position. Ever since he got on board it has been one mistake after another. He may be good at winning elections but not advising.


34 posted on 04/20/2006 11:17:09 AM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: JFC

W, I still love you!




So you're the one! LOL.


35 posted on 04/20/2006 11:17:23 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Procrastinators of the world UNITE!!!.....Tomorrow.)
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To: svcw
Soaring gas prices, soaring real estate property taxes and stagnant wages make a for a cranky American people.

How soon we forget to be thankful for our blessings like low unemployment and a growing economy.
36 posted on 04/20/2006 11:17:47 AM PDT by baltoga
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To: ruschpa

"Dang... if a Fox poll has him at 33%, he's in REALLY bad shape."

Don't bet on it. The last Fox poll also over-polled Democrats just like all the others, to the tune of about 10 percentage points too much if I recall. I have no doubt the demographics are probably just as bad on this one.


37 posted on 04/20/2006 11:18:09 AM PDT by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Democratic Congressional control)
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To: veronica

Bump.

U R correct.


38 posted on 04/20/2006 11:18:55 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: JFC

I read this article on Foxnews.com and scratched my head so much some of my hair fell out. Rediculous...but like some have said, gas prices = how well the economy is in the public's mind.


39 posted on 04/20/2006 11:19:19 AM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: baltoga

Now you have got it. Ordinary people can't afford to buy a house, can't afford to fill up their gas tank, and the amount of groceries they buy have gone down, all the while their wages have been stagnant for years. Add into that mix the fact that they really don't know if they will have a job tomorrow.
Makes for a cranky public regardless of what the government stats show.


40 posted on 04/20/2006 11:20:23 AM PDT by sheana
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To: abercrombie_guy_38
Don't keep scratching your hair out. See #22 instead. The headline is misleading, at best.
41 posted on 04/20/2006 11:21:16 AM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: Grendel9

Close the border, repatriate the illegals, deal with those who have employed them, start developing our own oil resources and refining capacity, go nuclear in a big way, challenge the insurance industry to eliminate the waste and implement tort reform,....there is much the Administration can do; but, it would rather face the possibility of impeachment and conviction then abide by the will of our citizens. So what if the Democrats are positioned to gain in November? If the GOP doesn't care, then why should we. Perhaps, the time is ripe for a new party; one that puts the interests of US and its people first.


42 posted on 04/20/2006 11:21:19 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: BlackRazor

Bush's PR group can go and tout the economy all day long but as long as the MSM has Crack Smoking Trixie with 10 kids that can't afford to get to her night job then the MSM will use gas to keep Bush's numbers down.


43 posted on 04/20/2006 11:22:27 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: MikeA
"The last Fox poll also over-polled Democrats just like all the others, to the tune of about 10 percentage points too much if I recall. I have no doubt the demographics are probably just as bad on this one."

Your post assumes that all Republicans would respond positively for the president. Trust me there are a lot of pissed off conservatives who would not answer positively when polled on the president's job approval. Just look at the illegal immigration threads. His position on illegal immigration is running his base off.

44 posted on 04/20/2006 11:22:52 AM PDT by blaquebyrd
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To: Grendel9
FOXNews thinks they're in competition with UniVision. 'Ola... ola... Senor Brit Hume?
45 posted on 04/20/2006 11:22:55 AM PDT by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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To: veronica
These sorts will lose the next election for the GOP.

So what do you recommend the GOP do in response? Keep ignoring the views of their constituents and lose, or start adopting sensible policies?

46 posted on 04/20/2006 11:23:01 AM PDT by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: MikeA

Rasmussen has him back up to 43%...he was at 39% there a few days ago.......


47 posted on 04/20/2006 11:23:12 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: trubluolyguy

Yeap I am the one. Me, Barbara, Laura and the twins. We will always love W!


48 posted on 04/20/2006 11:25:05 AM PDT by JFC (W, I am with YA)
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To: Grendel9

No matter how many advisors he has, a President must have the wisdom to stand up for what is right for the country, and Bush is failing dismally at that, especially with the immigration issue.

Despite my initial aversion to their rhetoric, folks like Pat Buchanan and Joe Sobran are beginning to make some sense.


49 posted on 04/20/2006 11:26:03 AM PDT by rrstar96 (Strength and Honor!)
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To: Grendel9
I don't get it! I read through this article three times and cannot find one word about IMMIGRATION as a key issue re the 'latest drop' in Bush's performance record!..

DITTO... and this is ** FOXNEWS ** :)

I agree that the president's low numbers is due to loss of support among republicans, yes. But RUMSFELD is the cause? Pleaaaaseee... I would dare to day it has to do with loss of confidence, after a series of small and not so small missteps ending with the last one: Not securing the border and the Immigration invasion we just saw with the marches. (i.e: Miers, Dubai and now Immigration) and lastly, the impression that the president is BLIND, IN ANOTHER WORLD in reference to many of his base.

50 posted on 04/20/2006 11:26:04 AM PDT by ElPatriota (Let's not forget, we are all still friends despite our differences)
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