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The Desert One Debacle
The Atlantic Monthly ^ | May 2006 | Mark Bowden

Posted on 04/20/2006 4:08:59 PM PDT by shoptalk

WASHINGTON, D.C., APRIL 11, 1980, NOON

The meeting began with Jimmy Carter's announcement: “Gentlemen, I want you to know that I am seriously considering an attempt to rescue the hostages.”

Hamilton Jordan, the White House chief of staff, knew immediately that the president had made a decision. Planning and practice for a rescue mission had been going on in secret for five months, but it had always been regarded as the last resort, and ever since the November 4 embassy takeover, the White House had made every effort to avoid it. As the president launched into a list of detailed questions about how it was to be done, his aides knew he had mentally crossed a line.

Carter had met the takeover in Iran with tremendous restraint, equating the national interest with the well-being of the fifty-three hostages, and his measured response had elicited a great deal of admiration, both at home and abroad. His approval ratings had doubled in the first month of the crisis. But in the following months, restraint had begun to smell like weakness and indecision. Three times in the past five months, carefully negotiated secret settlements had been ditched by the inscrutable Iranian mullahs, and the administration had been made to look more foolish each time. Approval ratings had nose-dived, and even stalwart friends of the administration were demanding action. Jimmy Carter’s formidable patience was badly strained.

And the mission that had originally seemed so preposterous had gradually come to seem feasible. It was a two-day affair with a great many moving parts and very little room for error--one of the most daring thrusts in U.S. military history. It called for a nighttime rendezvous of helicopters and planes at a landing strip in the desert south of Tehran, where the choppers would refuel...

(Excerpt) Read more at iran.theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: colcharliebeckwith; deltaforce; desertone; hostages; iran; iranhostages; jimmycarter; rescue
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To: Grampa Dave
 

41 posted on 04/21/2006 7:46:17 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Enchante
The Russians did a much better job. Turn our people over in 48 hours or Tehran will be nuked. Worked very well.

The good side of Desert One was that it gave Charging Charlie a platform to build the current SpecOps community. Without D1 I am not sure we would be as good as we are at SpecOps.

de opresso liber

42 posted on 04/21/2006 7:50:52 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: george76; shoptalk; ASA Vet; BIGLOOK; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Absolutely great and so appropriate for this thread!


43 posted on 04/21/2006 7:51:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave
I'll come back to this later.....thanks, Dave,

When Carter was in, the day count for the captives was above 400. When Reagan was elected, the day count ended. PDQ
44 posted on 04/21/2006 9:17:57 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Order of Battle: Sink or capture as Prize, MS Media)
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To: BIGLOOK

"When Carter was in, the day count for the captives was above 400. When Reagan was elected, the day count ended. PDQ."

Amazing wasn't it.


45 posted on 04/21/2006 9:20:52 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave; PhilDragoo

Don't forget what a friend of the Sandinistas he was (and probably still is), and every other Latin American commie.

Love the Lillian Carter quote.


46 posted on 04/21/2006 10:04:13 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: La Enchiladita

Carter never meet a communist mass killer dictator, he didn't love and respect from Castro to the Chia Head in N Korea and of course the Sandinistas.


47 posted on 04/21/2006 10:06:38 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: shoptalk

Carter's greatest mistake was taking the oath of office... all else followed.


48 posted on 04/21/2006 10:09:11 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: PhilDragoo
I wonder if Carter's brain has evolved from a peanut yet?
Roll
49 posted on 04/21/2006 10:57:10 AM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Grampa Dave; La Enchiladita; Smartass; devolve; ntnychik; potlatch

On the left, the mullah-flackers on the right, the daughter-raper (actually).

50 posted on 04/21/2006 11:31:57 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: shoptalk

Since the Hostage Rescue Mission, I've read just about everything written on the operation. While a SO planner at SOCEUR, I got to speak to many of those involved in the mission.

Col. James Kyle, USAF(ret), used as the title of his book the salutation of the 22nd SAS to the raiders when they landed back in OMAN. It was written on a case of scotch.

"For those who had the guts to try!"

A good thing did eventually come out of the mission - the US Special Operations Command.

When President Bush had a conference call with the commanders of the 9 unified commands on 09/12/01, eight of them gave him operational plans which would have taken months to impliment. Then General Chuck Holland, COMSOCOM,said, "Mr. President, we can have an assessment team on the ground in Uzbekistan in 72 hours."

Which commander do you think the Boss placed his trust in?


51 posted on 04/21/2006 11:32:51 AM PDT by SOLTC
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To: PhilDragoo; george76

Great picture of the people who love Jimmy Carter and are loved by Jimmy.


52 posted on 04/21/2006 11:39:00 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: Grampa Dave


53 posted on 04/21/2006 12:42:55 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Or a Nobel Prize Winner in Carter's case.

54 posted on 04/21/2006 1:36:15 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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To: PhilDragoo

Do you think he has any idea of his failures? He thinks he's such a 'do gooder'!! Typical liberal.


55 posted on 04/21/2006 1:47:21 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: PhilDragoo; Smartass

Reminds me of the pictures Smartass posted last night of McCain hugging the Viet Cong!!


56 posted on 04/21/2006 2:19:40 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: CPOSharky

Wow, that's way off.

The aircraft went through Diego Garcia, not Naples.

http://rescueattempt.tripod.com


57 posted on 04/21/2006 3:25:22 PM PDT by RaceBannon (ma(Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: ansel12

And Beckwith was a moron who didnt know squat about aircraft. The pilots were almost all Marine with one Navy and one Air Force who qualified the series of tests.

All the Army pilots who tried out for the mission failed. Besides, the Army had no such long range aircraft in their inventory that could have been moved in secret like the RH-53 could have.


58 posted on 04/21/2006 3:27:37 PM PDT by RaceBannon (ma(Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: cyclotic

No one in Delta died on that mission.


59 posted on 04/21/2006 3:28:50 PM PDT by RaceBannon (ma(Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: shoptalk

his measured response had elicited a great deal of admiration, both at home and abroad

NOT in my home!

The troubles we face today, can be directly traced back to
this fools bumbling and indecision.


60 posted on 04/21/2006 3:34:08 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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