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1 posted on 04/20/2006 4:09:01 PM PDT by shoptalk
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To: shoptalk

I can't read more. I known how it ends.


2 posted on 04/20/2006 4:13:23 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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"Three times in the past five months, carefully negotiated secret settlements had been ditched by the inscrutable Iranian mullahs, and the administration had been made to look more foolish each time."

Anyone even vaguely familiar with the histories of psychotic totalitarians such as Nazis and Islamists (not to mention commies) should have known that the US government led by Jimmy Carter was being played like a fiddle. The Mullahs were probably loving every minute of it, and gladly prolonging the crisis indefinitely...... DUH.......
3 posted on 04/20/2006 4:14:37 PM PDT by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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To: shoptalk

To get the range nedded, the sand screens had to be removed from the H-53s. Jimmuh fiddled around until the sand storm season started to send the mission. The helos were on site for about two months.


4 posted on 04/20/2006 4:17:18 PM PDT by CPOSharky (Go home and fix your own country before you complain about ours.)
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To: shoptalk

Thank you. I don't forget.

Here's an old article:

The Disasterous "Desert One" Rescue Operation of 1980
Air Force Magazine ^ | Otto Kreisher
Posted on 10/13/2001
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/547308/posts


6 posted on 04/20/2006 4:30:07 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Restraint means weakness to the sandfleas. How did that "rescue" go again? How many brave American soldiers died for Jimmy's "restraint"?


9 posted on 04/20/2006 4:53:55 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Dogs are from Mars.)
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To: shoptalk

This day after this disaster, Carter should have resigned.


10 posted on 04/20/2006 4:56:22 PM PDT by Publius
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Beckwith always blamed Carter for his interference in the details of the operation, such as not allowing him to use Army helicopter pilots.


11 posted on 04/20/2006 5:01:51 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: shoptalk
Fascinating and detailed article on that aborted rescue mission. Amazing to read Carter didn't even want deadly force employed during the rescue!

The moment Reagan was sworn in, the hostages were released. Reagan would have nuked those Mullah @#^# !@&#'s back to the stone age, and they knew it.

13 posted on 04/20/2006 5:17:54 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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I recently confirmed my suspicions about a friend of mine. I knew he was Delta back about then. He just told me that he was there and buried a few members of his team. I knew better than to ask him for more details, just thanked him again.


21 posted on 04/20/2006 6:34:08 PM PDT by cyclotic (Cub Scouts-Teaching them to be men and politically incorrect in the process)
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ping

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By faith we understand that the worlds were prepared by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things which are visible.
23 posted on 04/20/2006 6:53:30 PM PDT by zechariah
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Funny how he puts so much stock in negotiations, having seen first hand so much failure (maybe he wants miserable company).

If you're thinking he "negotiated" the Sadat-Begin deal, the fact is, it was Sadat's initiative, and the Israelis leapt at the chance. Jimmuh provided a few cabins in the woods, a nice gesture from a President who's only achievements consisted of a series of.....nice gestures.

26 posted on 04/20/2006 7:41:37 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: potlatch; devolve; PhilDragoo; Smartass

FUBAR ping


28 posted on 04/20/2006 10:08:56 PM PDT by ntnychik
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ping


29 posted on 04/20/2006 10:17:41 PM PDT by dancusa (For liberals there is no end to their rights and no beginning to their responsibilities.)
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THE ADVENTURES OF JIMMUH CAWTUH



Jimmy Carter Attacked by Killer Rabbit (April 20, 1979)

Today in Odd History, President Jimmy Carter was attacked by a rabbit during a fishing trip in Plains, Georgia. The rabbit, which may have been fleeing a predator, swam toward his boat, "hissing menacingly, its teeth flashing and nostrils flared." President Carter was forced to swat at the vicious beast with a canoe paddle, which apparently scared it off.

Upon his return to the White House, Carter told his staff about the furry amphibian's assault. Most of them refused to believe him, insisting that rabbits can't swim (although since most mammals can swim, there's no reason to believe that rabbits cannot), and that even if they could, they certainly wouldn't attack humans, and certainly not presidents. Fortunately, a White House photographer had been on the scene, and had recorded the bizarre attack. The photograph showed Carter with his paddle raised, warding off a small creature which might, or might not, have been a rabbit. One staffer was quoted as saying, "You couldn't tell what it was." Undaunted by their skepticism, Carter had the image enlarged, and there it was--a killer bunny rabbit, apparently bent on assassinating the president.

The story might have ended there, except that White House Press Secretary Jody Powell mentioned the incident to Associated Press reporter Brooks Jackson in August. JawsThe Washington Post ran it as front page news. The original photograph was not available (until the Reagan administration leaked it in 1981), but the paper filled the gap with a cartoon modeled on the poster for the movie Jaws, starring the rabbit and entitled Paws. Powell made a belated attempt to impress the public with the seriousness of the attack, calling the creature a "swamp rabbit," but since Carter had to appease his rabbit-loving constituents by insisting that he had not actually smacked his buck-toothed opponent with his paddle, but only splashed water at it to drive it away, it seemed unlikely that he had been in danger. The entire episode became a I'm a Bunny for Cartersymbol of Carter's floundering presidency. According to Powell, "[I]t shows the extent to which an insignificant incident can snowball and end up in newspapers and news shows across the country.” Carter biographer Douglas Brinkley says, “It just played up the Carter flake factor.... I mean, he had to deal with Russia and the Ayatollah and here he was supposedly fighting off a rabbit.”

Note: While some presidential apologists have suggested that Carter might actually have been attacked by a nutria, a large, aggressive aquatic rodent, others have insisted that the President's assailant was a simple, if unusually vicious, bunny rabbit. Fulk, the 12th century king of Jerusalem, was killed by a rabbit. (Well, really he was killed by a fall from his horse, but the horse had been startled by a rabbit.) And many years ago, I was the owner of a Blue Dutch rabbit named Sequin. One of my friends still bears the scars of an encounter with Sequin--a perfectly matched set of parallel teeth marks, where Sequin's fangs closed on her hand and ripped through the flesh when she pulled her hand away. Bunnies are, indeed, fiercer than anyone but Monty Python has generally given them credit for.


30 posted on 04/20/2006 10:22:03 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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The disaster in the desert was when I started to question my support for Carter and liberalism in general, leading to my vote for Reagan that November - my first ever vote for a Republican.


36 posted on 04/21/2006 2:56:15 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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The real history/legacy of Jimmy Carter, the man who hated America and still does.


39 posted on 04/21/2006 7:38:22 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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Lillian Carter' comments, when she looked at Jimmy/Billy:

Sometimes when I look at my children I say to myself, "Lillian, you should have stayed a virgin."

 
http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/20935.html

Thanks to George 76 for this great post.

40 posted on 04/21/2006 7:40:53 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist homosexual lunatic wet dreams posing as journalism)
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Carter's greatest mistake was taking the oath of office... all else followed.


48 posted on 04/21/2006 10:09:11 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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Since the Hostage Rescue Mission, I've read just about everything written on the operation. While a SO planner at SOCEUR, I got to speak to many of those involved in the mission.

Col. James Kyle, USAF(ret), used as the title of his book the salutation of the 22nd SAS to the raiders when they landed back in OMAN. It was written on a case of scotch.

"For those who had the guts to try!"

A good thing did eventually come out of the mission - the US Special Operations Command.

When President Bush had a conference call with the commanders of the 9 unified commands on 09/12/01, eight of them gave him operational plans which would have taken months to impliment. Then General Chuck Holland, COMSOCOM,said, "Mr. President, we can have an assessment team on the ground in Uzbekistan in 72 hours."

Which commander do you think the Boss placed his trust in?


51 posted on 04/21/2006 11:32:51 AM PDT by SOLTC
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his measured response had elicited a great deal of admiration, both at home and abroad

NOT in my home!

The troubles we face today, can be directly traced back to
this fools bumbling and indecision.


60 posted on 04/21/2006 3:34:08 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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